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Tectonic Fusion 1517	Posted - 2014.04.22 03:42:00 - [1] - Quote and put it on my cal scout...holy **... Caldari Scout C/1: 1 Enhanced Shield Energizer 2 Complex Shield Extenders 1 Enhanced Kinetic Catalyzers 1 Basic CPU Upgrade RS-90 Combat Rifle KLO-1 Scrambler Pistol Flux Grenades Cloak Field Dat shield regen :o Solo Player Squad status: Locked**
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 2870	Posted - 2014.04.22 03:45:00 - [2] - Quote They're pretty ace, even on a CalSent with a large base HO for that downside to punch. You can get a CalSent up to like 113/s with 700 HP or something stupid like that with energisers :P ak.0 4 LYFE I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
Echoist Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 269	Posted - 2014.04.22 03:52:00 - [3] - Quote What did you expect? They are caldari... Noobasaures: "Rawr" STINGY: Yes I did nickname my laser rifle. Owner of a "Insta Bacon Machine" called STINGY
Tectonic Fusion 1517	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:18:00 - [4] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: They're pretty ace, even on a CalSent with a large base HO for that downside to punch. You can get a CalSent up to like 113/s with 700 HP or something stupid like that with energisers :P Energizers are crazy good for hit and run. Get my shields down? GO behind cover and 75% of my shields are recharged right as you engage me :D Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Vulpes Dolosus SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1414	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:27:00 - [5] - Quote Working on the same type of set up for my Cal Heavy. From a fitting tool, I can get somewhere like 700shield at Gëê80/sec w/ like 2-3sec delay max. One dayGÇª one dayGÇª Me in my ADS: 1,2
SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 130	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:44:00 - [6] - Quote I had mine over 100%. The thing that sucks is, very low shield count
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1097	Posted - 2014.04.22 04:45:00 - [7] - Quote SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: I had mine over 100%. The thing that sucks is, very low shield count Max is 2 energizers Wait for ccp to buff shield heavies I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 585	Posted - 2014.04.22 09:49:00 - [8] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: I had mine over 100%. The thing that sucks is, very low shield count Max is 2 energizers Wait for ccp to buff shield heavies Haven't you seen players posting for heavy nerfs now . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2607	Posted - 2014.04.22 10:48:00 - [9] - Quote It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Tectonic Fusion 1518	Posted - 2014.04.22 15:22:00 - [10] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. Solo Player Squad status: Locked

Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 956	Posted - 2014.04.22 16:05:00 - [11] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. That would mean: Complex shields - 88HP - fast regen Complex ferroscale plate - 75HP - no regen Not really balanced is it?
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 153	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:47:00 - [12] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. That would mean: Complex shields - 88HP - fast regen Complex ferroscale plate - 75HP - no regen Not really balanced is it? In contrast, slap complex armor plates and you have 135 HP. Why you would be placing a Ferroscale on anything that isn't a scout, I don't know. If you were to armor tank you'd likely go Gallente, which has built in reps. And a flux grenade can wipe shields to 0.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1141	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:48:00 - [13] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: I had mine over 100%. The thing that sucks is, very low shield count Max is 2 energizers Wait for ccp to buff shield heavies Haven't you seen players posting for heavy nerfs now . For gallente and amarr I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:49:00 - [14] - Quote Let's face it, the (pretty crap) scrub setup. Proto caldari. 4x complex shield extender 1x complex armor plate. 1x basic armor rep. 1x adv. cloak. 1x nanite injector. Weapons you choose. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1142	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:51:00 - [15] - Quote keno trader wrote: Let's face it, the (pretty crap) scrub setup. Proto caldari. 4x complex shield extender 1x complex armor plate. 1x basic armor rep. 1x adv. cloak. 1x nanite injector. Weapons you choose. Im sorry my mass driver couldn't help shooting a flying red dot I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 74	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:58:00 - [16] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: keno trader wrote: Let's face it, the (pretty crap) scrub setup. Proto caldari. 4x complex shield extender 1x complex armor plate. 1x basic armor rep. 1x adv. cloak. 1x nanite injector. Weapons you choose. Im sorry my mass driver couldn't help shooting a flying red dot Not quite...mass driver stunningly ineffective. I'd be worried if it was a rail. *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2618	Posted - 2014.04.22 22:59:00 - [17] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. No as it stands a proto plate is worth 2 proto extenders, which is just plain wrong. Instead Imwould suggest 3:2 ratio. Such that 3 extenders will match 2 plates. Done like this Shield based tankers can still reach COMPETITIVE levels of tank, but have to sacrifice a lot more in terms of their high slots to achieve it. As such a gallante with 43 plates won't be out tanked, but at the same time, a gallante medium won't outmtank a caldari heavy. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
DozersMouse XIII Ultramarine Corp 487	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:06:00 - [18] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. No as it stands a proto plate is worth 2 proto extenders, which is just plain wrong. Instead Imwould suggest 3:2 ratio. Such that 3 extenders will match 2 plates. Done like this Shield based tankers can still reach COMPETITIVE levels of tank, but have to sacrifice a lot more in terms of their high slots to achieve it. As such a gallante with 43 plates won't be out tanked, but at the same time, a gallante medium won't outmtank a caldari heavy. your forgetting how the two differ shields - fast ass regen armor - none to very slow regen plates higher hp with slower regen extenders lower hp with faster regen I am aware that basic and enhanced extenders need different values but comp is where it should be Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2618	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:19:00 - [19] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. No as it stands a proto plate is worth 2 proto extenders, which is just plain wrong. Instead Imwould suggest 3:2 ratio. Such that 3 extenders will match 2 plates. Done like this Shield based tankers can still reach COMPETITIVE levels of tank, but have to sacrifice a lot more in terms of their high slots to achieve it. As such a gallante with 43 plates won't be out tanked, but at the same time, a gallante medium won't outmtank a caldari heavy. your forgetting how the two differ shields - fast ass regen armor - none to very slow regen plates higher hp with slower regen extenders lower hp with faster regen I am aware that basic and enhanced extenders need different values but comp is where it should be No kts definitely not, Shields reps rarely come into play during 1v1 engagements. As such shields are unnecessarily gimped for a bonus which rarely comes into play. If you wish for shield to remain at such low EHP, remove the shield delay completely. Actually give this bonus you limit us by. A shield tanker should be at a mild disadvantage, but when a gallante scout can have as much armour as a caldari heavy has shields something is seriously wrong. Also I would like to point out a Gallante Assault can achieve 27HP/s with 0 delay, that's a lot of regen, by anyones standards. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 166	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:51:00 - [20] - Quote Energizers are <3 My Sentinel ck.0 may only have around 450 shield but with around 500 armour, and 4 Complex Energizers giving around 113 shields per second. Damn. Its guuuuuuud. Was attempting to proto every weapon a bad idea? Yes. 12 so far If you can't accept change, you will fail in this world

Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 228	Posted - 2014.04.22 23:59:00 - [21] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: and put it on my cal scout...holy **... Caldari Scout C/1: 1 Enhanced Shield Energizer 2 Complex Shield Extenders 1 Enhanced Kinetic Catalyzers 1 Basic CPU Upgrade RS-90 Combat Rifle KLO-1 Scrambler Pistol Flux Grenades Cloak Field Dat shield regen :o I personally don't use it on my scout, those 50 shield regens are good enough IMO How much shield regen you get? 75 right? On my Cal heavy(dont have sentinel yet Q.Q) i put that ** on, good regens still gotta get energizers to proto and also those shield regs :/
RECON BY FIRE Imperfects Negative-Feedback 380	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:09:00 - [22] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. No as it stands a proto plate is worth 2 proto extenders, which is just plain wrong. Instead Imwould suggest 3:2 ratio. Such that 3 extenders will match 2 plates. Done like this Shield based tankers can still reach COMPETITIVE levels of tank, but have to sacrifice a lot more in terms of their high slots to achieve it. As such a gallante with 43 plates won't be out tanked, but at the same time, a gallante medium won't outmtank a caldari heavy. your forgetting how the two differ shields - fast ass regen armor - none to very slow regen plates higher hp with slower regen extenders lower hp with faster regen I am aware that basic and enhanced extenders need different values but comp is where it should be Youre forgetting that I can drop 2 Allotek hives and rep 80 hp/s without delay while getting shot. Either plates need to get nerfed, shield extenders buffed, or rep hives need to be done away with. Stuff....?
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 228	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:11:00 - [23] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. No as it stands a proto plate is worth 2 proto extenders, which is just plain wrong. Instead Imwould suggest 3:2 ratio. Such that 3 extenders will match 2 plates. Done like this Shield based tankers can still reach COMPETITIVE levels of tank, but have to sacrifice a lot more in terms of their high slots to achieve it. As such a gallante with 43 plates won't be out tanked, but at the same time, a gallante medium won't outmtank a caldari heavy. your forgetting how the two differ shields - fast ass regen armor - none to very slow regen plates higher hp with slower regen extenders lower hp with faster regen I am aware that basic and enhanced extenders need different values but comp is where it should be No kts definitely not, Shields reps rarely come into play during 1v1 engagements. As such shields are unnecessarily gimped for a bonus which rarely comes into play. If you wish for shield to remain at such low EHP, remove the shield delay completely. Actually give this bonus you limit us by. A shield tanker should be at a mild disadvantage, but when a gallante scout can have as much armour as a caldari heavy has shields something is seriously wrong. Also I would like to point out a Gallante Assault can achieve 27HP/s with 0 delay, that's a lot of regen, by anyones standards. A gallente scout can have as much armor as a minmatar heavies Ehp... Ive seen 700-800 armor scouts... terrifyingly ugly and their strafe speed is just >.>
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4326	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:18:00 - [24] - Quote Energizes + cal commando = monster assault Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2618	Posted - 2014.04.23 00:33:00 - [25] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: No as it stands a proto plate is worth 2 proto extenders, which is just plain wrong. Instead Imwould suggest 3:2 ratio. Such that 3 extenders will match 2 plates. Done like this Shield based tankers can still reach COMPETITIVE levels of tank, but have to sacrifice a lot more in terms of their high slots to achieve it. As such a gallante with 43 plates won't be out tanked, but at the same time, a gallante medium won't outmtank a caldari heavy. your forgetting how the two differ shields - fast ass regen armor - none to very slow regen plates higher hp with slower regen extenders lower hp with faster regen I am aware that basic and enhanced extenders need different values but comp is where it should be No kts definitely not, Shields reps rarely come into play during 1v1 engagements. As such shields are unnecessarily gimped for a bonus which rarely comes into play. If you wish for shield to remain at such low EHP, remove the shield delay completely. Actually give this bonus you limit us by. A shield tanker should be at a mild disadvantage, but when a gallante scout can have as much armour as a caldari heavy has shields something is seriously wrong. Also I would like to point out a Gallante Assault can achieve 27HP/s with 0 delay, that's a lot of regen, by anyones standards. A gallente scout can have as much armor as a minmatar heavies Ehp... Ive seen 700-800 armor scouts... terrifyingly ugly and their strafe speed is just >.> True but he can also cloak, so you know swings and roundabouts not mention it still puts my dual-tanked (not brick) Minmatar Assault to Shame. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 365	Posted - 2014.04.23 01:10:00 - [26] - Quote keno trader wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: keno trader wrote: Let's face it, the (pretty crap) scrub setup. Proto caldari. 4x complex shield extender 1x complex armor plate. 1x basic armor rep. 1x adv. cloak. 1x nanite injector. Weapons you choose. Im sorry my mass driver couldn't help shooting a flying red dot Not quite...mass driver stunningly ineffective. I'd be worried if it was a rail. Flux first, youll be dead before you realized you had an accident. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Tectonic Fusion 1520	Posted - 2014.04.23 01:54:00 - [27] - Quote keno trader wrote: Let's face it, the (pretty crap) scrub setup. Proto caldari. 4x complex shield extender 1x complex armor plate. 1x basic armor rep. 1x adv. cloak. 1x nanite injector. Weapons you choose. The only better fit would be an advanced cal scout with a scrambler rifle amd m209 smg which is hard to fit. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
jerrmy12 kahoalii Proficiency V. 1142	Posted - 2014.04.23 01:58:00 - [28] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: keno trader wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: keno trader wrote: Let's face it, the (pretty crap) scrub setup. Proto caldari. 4x complex shield extender 1x complex armor plate. 1x basic armor rep. 1x adv. cloak. 1x nanite injector. Weapons you choose. Im sorry my mass driver couldn't help shooting a flying red dot Not quite...mass driver stunningly ineffective. I'd be worried if it was a rail. Flux first, youll be dead before you realized you had an accident. Oh whats this? My complex enhancers just ket my md 1 shot him I <3 girl gamers Tears, sweet delicious tears
Rusty Shallows 1630	Posted - 2014.04.23 02:10:00 - [29] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: I had mine over 100%. The thing that sucks is, very low shield count Max is 2 energizers Wait for ccp to buff shield heavies Haven't you seen players posting for heavy nerfs now . That's just Amar ADV & Proto all bricked with stacked damage mods making the rest look bad. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 963	Posted - 2014.04.23 14:05:00 - [30] - Quote Henrietta Unknown wrote: Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: It would be better to ask for a general buff to Shields, heavies are likely to loose 190 EHP at the current rate, this will however effect shield heavies the most. Yeah. I don't think a basic armor plate should have more HP than a complex shield. Maybe equal, so maybe buff complex shields to 88 and go from there to buff the other stuff. That would mean: Complex shields - 88HP - fast regen Complex ferroscale plate - 75HP - no regen Not really balanced is it? In contrast, slap complex armor plates and you have 135 HP. Why you would be placing a Ferroscale on anything that isn't a scout, I don't know. If you were to armor tank you'd likely go Gallente, which has built in reps. And a flux grenade can wipe shields to 0. Whether you like it or not, Ferroscale is in the game and lots of people use it (me for one - yes, on a scout suit). Your idea of 'balance' is to make one item totally outclass an equivalent item.



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