DUST Search - Triple SP event is not working correctly pt2

Awry Barux wrote:

Maken Tosch wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

SPACE SYPHILIS wrote:

Awry Barux wrote:

Quit your whining.
a. You don't have to cap.
b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough.

Are you kidding me. I pointed how the reward system is messed up and your answer was your a scrub, play harder, help your team win Shocked

. Are you F***** kidding me. I am upset because the reward system is broke and it needs to be fixed. For your information I do come in first and I do support my team. The problem is the reward system.

And I'm telling you it's not broken. I definitely received the 5x rewards in every match. If the reward system isn't broken, the only alternative is that you're not earning enough WP to see the full benefits.

Do you have videos to back up such a claim?

No. Does the OP?
I suppose I could go show myself earning 200 WP and getting the full 1k SP soft cap payout, which I have observed consistently by dicking around in Ambush with flaylocks.
I capped out just as fast as I do on normal weeks. If event rewards were broken, it would take me three times as long. Therefore, event rewards are not broken. For reference, I pull in between 2k and 4k WP in the vast majority of Dom matches.

Edit@your edit: The OP cites a match where he goes 2 and 5 and ends up in 7th place while using an AV fitting (i.e. no uplinks/rep hives). Regardless of his contributions to victory, that's not going to make for great WP, and therefore isn't going to get him much benefit from the 5x multiplier. I suppose that by "get good" what I mean is "farm WP harder".

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SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:35:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2072164#post2072164 The link above is the first subject of this matter. After some trial and error I was able to prove the event rewards in the triple event is not working. I was running with a friend and playing AV. The only reds that were even trying to fight was two tanks. So the other team did not do s* the whole game. I come in 2-5 7th place and all I get for my effort of keeping tanks from killing my team. A little over 5K SP. I was so angry, I quit the game and turned off the PS3. Just because the other team refuses to show up I am punished. CCP IMO there should be a starting number that no matter how bad the red's do, as long as the blues win you get the points. How is someone who has only so much time to play supposed to cap with these numbers. I always cap on a regular week, but this is F*** stupid. I know its just an event, but it is also CCP's way of trying to gain and retain their current players. CCP, sorry but this event like most in the past is bugged and the fun is gone. Stop punishing people for trying.
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2029	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:57:00 - [2] - Quote Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Nerdier than thou
Roofer Madness 1049	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:59:00 - [3] - Quote If you're upset about the event, blame all the AFK QQers. The way they did the 3x events before was more fun than grind but of course a couple brats ruined it for everyone else. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:01:00 - [4] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Are you kidding me. I pointed how the reward system is messed up and your answer was your a scrub, play harder, help your team win. Are you F***** kidding me. I am upset because the reward system is broke and it needs to be fixed. For your information I do come in first and I do support my team. The problem is the reward system.
Funkmaster Whale Ancient Exiles. 1903	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:04:00 - [5] - Quote Triple SP event is working fine. You only get 5x SP from Warpoints earned in battle. This means you can't just join a game and go 1/7 with 350 warpoints and expect to earn much more SP than you would normally. You earn SP for being in battle (WP / sec. in battle) as well as WP earned. Normally you get 1 SP for 1 WP. In this event you get 5 SP for 1 WP. The reason this was put in place is because AFK farmers would sit in the MCC in Skirmishes and earn almost the same amount of SP during the 3x SP events. They changed it to this format a long time ago and it makes absolute sense. If you suck and can't earn more than 500 WP in a game then too bad for you. Now stop freaking out and get good. Let me play you the song of my people!
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2029	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:06:00 - [6] - Quote SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Are you kidding me. I pointed how the reward system is messed up and your answer was your a scrub, play harder, help your team win. Are you F***** kidding me. I am upset because the reward system is broke and it needs to be fixed. For your information I do come in first and I do support my team. The problem is the reward system. And I'm telling you it's not broken. I definitely received the 5x rewards in every match. If the reward system isn't broken, the only alternative is that you're not earning enough WP to see the full benefits. Nerdier than thou
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8013	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:09:00 - [7] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Are you kidding me. I pointed how the reward system is messed up and your answer was your a scrub, play harder, help your team win. Are you F*** kidding me. I am upset because the reward system is broke and it needs to be fixed. For your information I do come in first and I do support my team. The problem is the reward system. And I'm telling you it's not broken. I definitely received the 5x rewards in every match. If the reward system isn't broken, the only alternative is that you're not earning enough WP to see the full benefits. Do you have videos to back up such a claim? EDIT: I'm not supporting the OP in case you're wondering. I'm neutral here when it comes to the events. I'm just saying that if there is a problem with the event, then it needs to be addressed so that it won't happen again in the future. The OP clearly stated he was helping his team but wasn't getting the reward he expected. You saying that the OP should "get good" is not helping in the conversation especially if the issue is not the OP but rather his team that isn't doing much. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor**
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2029	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:16:00 - [8] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Awry Barux wrote: SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Are you kidding me. I pointed how the reward system is messed up and your answer was your a scrub, play harder, help your team win. Are you F***** kidding me. I am upset because the reward system is broke and it needs to be fixed. For your information I do come in first and I do support my team. The problem is the reward system. And I'm telling you it's not broken. I definitely received the 5x rewards in every match. If the reward system isn't broken, the only alternative is that you're not earning enough WP to see the full benefits. Do you have videos to back up such a claim? No. Does the OP? I suppose I could go show myself earning 200 WP and getting the full 1k SP soft cap payout, which I have observed consistently by dicking around in Ambush with flaylocks. I capped out just as fast as I do on normal weeks. If event rewards were broken, it would take me three times as long. Therefore, event rewards are not broken. Nerdier than thou
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8013	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:22:00 - [9] - Quote Funkmaster Whale wrote: Triple SP event is working fine. You only get 5x SP from Warpoints earned in battle. This means you can't just join a game and go 1/7 with 350 warpoints and expect to earn much more SP than you would normally. You earn SP for being in battle (WP / sec. in battle) as well as WP earned. Normally you get 1 SP for 1 WP. In this event you get 5 SP for 1 WP. The reason this was put in place is because AFK farmers would sit in the MCC in Skirmishes and earn almost the same amount of SP during the 3x SP events. They changed it to this format a long time ago and it makes absolute sense. If you suck and can't earn more than 500 WP in a game then too bad for you. Now stop freaking out and get good. Ah, I completely forgot about that. But again, telling the player to get good when he was doing his best (which may or may not be enough) is still not helping the conversation. However, your explanation of the WP calculations did help with the conversation. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8013	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:26:00 - [10] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: I suppose that by "get good" what I mean is "farm WP harder". I suppose that would be much better advise than just saying "get good" because "getting good" is too much of a broad term. Then again, so it "farm WP harder". My advise to the OP is utilize drop uplinks when possible. One way I go about it is to create at least two fits. One for deploying the maximum number of uplinks and then switching to my hacking suit and hack as many installations and objectives as possible. That's one way of doing it at least. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor

Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 2029	Posted - 2014.04.21 05:30:00 - [11] - Quote Maken Tosch wrote: Awry Barux wrote: I suppose that by "get good" what I mean is "farm WP harder". I suppose that would be much better advise than just saying "get good" because "getting good" is too much of a broad term. Then again, so it "farm WP harder". My advise to the OP is utilize drop uplinks when possible. One way I go about it is to create at least two fits. One for deploying the maximum number of uplinks and then switching to my hacking suit and hack as many installations and objectives as possible. That's one way of doing it at least. I actually made a guide in the Rookie Training Grounds outlining my strategy for maximizing WP gain. OP, maybe this will help you. Linky: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=144212 Nerdier than thou
COVERT SUBTERFUGE PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 917	Posted - 2014.04.21 08:46:00 - [12] - Quote I capped 2 mercs and can say with authoritah that it's working. I was running my Minmatar logi heal god with dual healing repair tool and basked in the WP bukake. On a poor match I'd make 20K SP, on a good match I'd make almost 50K. The battlefield is a WP mine waiting to be exploited. Capitalise off of the battle with them logi tools and ESPECIALLY the almighty repair tool. Proud Minmatar scout - Republic Merc 7/10 Immune to bitter/jaded vet syndrome Alt of THE GREY CARDINAL - eWar Merc
SPACE SYPHILIS Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 122	Posted - 2014.04.21 08:54:00 - [13] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Maken Tosch wrote: Awry Barux wrote: SPACE SYPHILIS wrote: Awry Barux wrote: Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Are you kidding me. I pointed how the reward system is messed up and your answer was your a scrub, play harder, help your team win. Are you F***** kidding me. I am upset because the reward system is broke and it needs to be fixed. For your information I do come in first and I do support my team. The problem is the reward system. And I'm telling you it's not broken. I definitely received the 5x rewards in every match. If the reward system isn't broken, the only alternative is that you're not earning enough WP to see the full benefits. Do you have videos to back up such a claim? No. Does the OP? I suppose I could go show myself earning 200 WP and getting the full 1k SP soft cap payout, which I have observed consistently by dicking around in Ambush with flaylocks. I capped out just as fast as I do on normal weeks. If event rewards were broken, it would take me three times as long. Therefore, event rewards are not broken. For reference, I pull in between 2k and 4k WP in the vast majority of Dom matches. Edit@your edit: The OP cites a match where he goes 2 and 5 and ends up in 7th place while using an AV fitting (i.e. no uplinks/rep hives). Regardless of his contributions to victory, that's not going to make for great WP, and therefore isn't going to get him much benefit from the 5x multiplier. I suppose that by "get good" what I mean is "farm WP harder". Here is the way I see it. I would have made at least half or more of the WP in a standard match. That means if I would get 2500 SP on a normal day in Domination, I should at least get 6000+ SP during an event like this. Its just simple match.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8019	Posted - 2014.04.21 10:35:00 - [14] - Quote @Space That is true. But as others pointed out, its all about the WP in this event. Kills can only go so far since they were 50 WP a pop. Hacking can net you about the same if you focus on installations and uplinks can give 25 WP per team assist and a rep tool about the same for guardian but they come in quickly compared to kills and they are guaranteed. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Khan Hun Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 90	Posted - 2014.04.21 10:52:00 - [15] - Quote You might need to change your play style a bit, if your running around with a shotgun getting a few solo kills you wont clock up many WPs. Things that give good, steady WPs: 1) armor repping 2) Uplinks 3) Hacking objectives / installations 4) Laying down suppressive fire in choke points with a mass driver (lots of assists and some kills) 5) Nano hives If you are doing a few of those things at different points in the match you should make 800-1500 WPs fairly easily.
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1515	Posted - 2014.04.21 12:32:00 - [16] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: Quit your whining. a. You don't have to cap. b. This event system rewards people for actually figuring out what contributes most and doing it. I capped on Friday after maybe 15 hours of play, regularly pulling in 20-25k+ (max was something like 32k) (regular boosted) SP per Domination match. That's barely more time than it takes to cap on a regular week. What's the secret? Actually working to help your team win. Uplinks, repair hives, regular hives, then slayer fits, I did it all and was rewarded appropriately. Get good, earn WP, cap out. You're not trying hard enough. Well Said... Could've capped out on Thursday night ,l bu left about 20k SP to play on friday... Took about 15-20 hours of of hard work... uplinks, hives and actually fighting to win... Sitting inside the MCC however, wouldn't give that 15-20K sp games....


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