DUST Search - Week-Long Militia Gear Event

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Bax Zanith wrote:

Youknowutimsayin wrote:

If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken.

If you believed that statement, then you wouldn't even be using proto gear.

An event that gives SP for kills using militia weapons with militia dropsuits would be fun. Proto stompers would never participate in such an even, but that would just mean we earned more SP that week then they would.

No offence but this type of thinking is counterproductive and hurts the game much more than it helps .

Militia gear doesn't take away the fact that if a " Prototype " player uses militia , it will NOT perform like customary militia because of the SP's placed into items and weapons , so this would be fruitless .

Place a militia trooper against any " Prototype " player in militia and the militia will loose eight times out of ten , not from lack of knowledge ( even though that would play a factor ) but because of the performance of the weapons and suits even .

Maxed out shields and armor .. also weapons still carry over to any use of any suit and that particular weapon and more than likely that weapon will be a PR which most who played this game for at least four months have to prototype .

You people need to stop being so bias against prototype players , those who have two or more prototype suits shouldn't be so bias against those who care to wear prototype every match . That's just silly , people can play the way that they like and who is anyone , besides CCP .. to place a restriction on how people can approach or play this game .

You people have some nerve . You really think that newer players do not fight to gain the better materials and weapons ..??.. hell that's what militaries and anyone who is playing this game is trying to do and that's compete to the best of their abilities .

Stop trying to hold hands and sing kum-bi-ya , while killing these same players at the same time .

I don't own a single proto suit but when I do I WILL wear them as much as I want because I worked hard to get it .

You people need to tone down the hate because you are the same players that own prototype gear and if it was such a problem you wouldn't .

Fix it and stop being negative and bias . Come with suggestions and not with hate and ignorance . There's enough of that .. that goes on during game play and on the forums .

NO ... TIERICIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER EITHER .. there use to be a nice selection of vehicle mods and weapons but since CCP tried to slip a little tiericide into the mix , now we just have three choices , no customization and no multiple selection of the same tier . Look at the newer weapons and how they are implementing the role changes and it's clear , when they follow their own direction it's somewhat clear but listening to the community is taking the customization factor out of the choices and the game .

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

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Clone D 242	Posted - 2014.04.20 17:58:00 - [1] - Quote For some perspective, I think it would be sweet to hold a 1 week militia gear event where everyone can only deploy to battle if they are wearing 100% militia gear. If not, then your deployment to the battlefield will fail. No matter how much proto you own, No matter if your corporation holds vast tracts of land, No matter what your user name, how long you've been around, or how much SP you have, You must deploy into battle wearing militia gear. It would be a 1 week vacation from protostomps and remind us of what life would be like if we all lived on even terms. Does this sound interesting to anyone else? .
Youknowutimsayin Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 170	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:00:00 - [2] - Quote If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken.
Clone D 242	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:02:00 - [3] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. I stomp with militia gear, and I insult suckas with my militia gear kills, but I think it would be an eye opener to the community and maybe everyone would have a good time It's all about the happy! .
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 5148	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:05:00 - [4] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. I stomp with a Plasma Cannon, Flaylock and biotics/electronics only. It's all about the player and their connection. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ
Forever ETC 703rd Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 345	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:11:00 - [5] - Quote If we were to do this all that would matter would be core skills and gungame. Now my aim isn't the best but my reaction time and covering fire is good. Well, time to go Commando. Fill the Ranks at 703rd. Love,Hate, and everything in between.- ETC 2013 THIS IS AMARR!!!
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4830	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:14:00 - [6] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. I ran into Kain Spero in a battle today. His gear was obviously super expensive, but he himself sucked. A friend of mine has been playing for under a week, and I'm fairly certain he would still beat Kain if they had the same levels and gear. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4830	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:18:00 - [7] - Quote I **** you not, he ran at me uncloaked with a shotgun scout at combat rifle range, through an area with absolutely no cover. I'm from the weird side of the internet
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 146	Posted - 2014.04.20 18:56:00 - [8] - Quote STD/MLT tiers get bonuses to ISK and SP, ADV and PRO do not. Protostompers can keep doing their thing, but they'll be missing out.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2397	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:36:00 - [9] - Quote That's not an event. That's a limitation. An event would be Use militia gear and fire every kill with X weapon you get 1k SP and 1 AUR ADV X weapon (so new guys can use them with limited skills)
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 50	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:39:00 - [10] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. LAG and SP earned by killing EVEtards by the bushel? Most of the killboard leaders have, zero, nill, zilch AAA FPS experience! cross refence their PSN accounts...lol
Bax Zanith 116	Posted - 2014.04.20 19:59:00 - [11] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. If you believed that statement, then you wouldn't even be using proto gear. An event that gives SP for kills using militia weapons with militia dropsuits would be fun. Proto stompers would never participate in such an even, but that would just mean we earned more SP that week then they would. I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 212	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:12:00 - [12] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. I stomp with a Plasma Cannon, Flaylock and biotics/electronics only. It's all about the player and their connection. 1 bolt pistol, all my highs are filled with complex myrofibrills, lows just 1 kin, no equipment not even a grenade
Joseph Ridgeson WarRavens League of Infamy 1220	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:25:00 - [13] - Quote Interesting idea and would be fun but there are problems: 1. Certain modules are completely worthless at Militia level. Prototype Swarm Launchers are a threat to my Madrugar and something I need to be mindful of. A Militia Swarm Launcher does 50% less damage from missiles alone. They are almost a non-issue unless there are several. Shield Extenders are downright terrible at the Militia level compared to Complex. They scale by being Advanced being 50% better than Militia/Basic, Complex being twice as much HP as Advanced, and Complex being three times as much HP as Basic/Militia. This is why it is usually "Use Complex Shield Modules or don't bother." 2. Well, I guess I can't use a HMG, Laser Rifle, Mass Driver, Nova Knife, Magsec, Bolt Pistol, Ion Pistol, Flaylock Pistol, Plasma Cannon, Combat Rifle, Rail Rifle, or Scrambler Rifle this week as they have no Militia variants. 3. Limits play styles significantly as there would be no Scout, Logistics, Commandos, or Assault Dropships. "People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3532	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:37:00 - [14] - Quote can we do a full proto week after this? Sir Hadah for CPM
KING CHECKMATE Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 5151	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:54:00 - [15] - Quote Clone D wrote: For some perspective, I think it would be sweet to hold a 1 week militia gear event where everyone can only deploy to battle if they are wearing 100% militia gear. If not, then your deployment to the battlefield will fail. No matter how much proto you own, No matter if your corporation holds vast tracts of land, No matter what your user name, how long you've been around, or how much SP you have, You must deploy into battle wearing militia gear. It would be a 1 week vacation from protostomps and remind us of what life would be like if we all lived on even terms. Does this sound interesting to anyone else? WOULD BE GREAT! A GREAT WAY TO SHOW QQers that PROTO is not what makes the difference, but the PAssive Skills and SP difference + teamwork. You think noobs will have a chance just because everybody is wearing the same gear? LOL You think newberries will feel the difference while facing 6+ DNS players in a squad JUST because they are wearing MLT stuff? please. +25% total EHP, +5 Sprt speed+ stamina +stamina recovery, 10% more dampening,scan precision and radar range, Proficiency on weapons, ammo capacity ,reload speeds,25% more CPU and PG to fit more stuff, etc... All these passive skills will make a difference more than proto gear, next to teamwork. So have it your way, lets make a MLT week Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
ADAM-OF-EVE Dead Man's Game 1508	Posted - 2014.04.20 20:57:00 - [16] - Quote nice idea but take it 1 step further..... militia event followed by an adv event followed by a proto event well maybe not the proto event but the gradual build up of gear through events leading new players into more competitive fights could be good militia event awards adv gear, adv event gives proto. over the space of the events players especially noobs could be encouraged to spec into a role and leave the event on a better understanding of how the game works within that role I will logi the s* out of you https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=99075&find
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1123	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:00:00 - [17] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. Considering I do much better when I wear better gear, I think you are mistaken. All other factors are equal (my own skill, internet connection, core skills, experience etc.), so the only difference is the gear. Looking for the scout hangout?
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 582	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:06:00 - [18] - Quote Bax Zanith wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. If you believed that statement, then you wouldn't even be using proto gear. An event that gives SP for kills using militia weapons with militia dropsuits would be fun. Proto stompers would never participate in such an even, but that would just mean we earned more SP that week then they would. No offence but this type of thinking is counterproductive and hurts the game much more than it helps . Militia gear doesn't take away the fact that if a " Prototype " player uses militia , it will NOT perform like customary militia because of the SP's placed into items and weapons , so this would be fruitless . Place a militia trooper against any " Prototype " player in militia and the militia will loose eight times out of ten , not from lack of knowledge ( even though that would play a factor ) but because of the performance of the weapons and suits even . Maxed out shields and armor .. also weapons still carry over to any use of any suit and that particular weapon and more than likely that weapon will be a PR which most who played this game fro at least four months have to prototype . You people need to stop being so bias against prototype players , those who have two or more prototype suits shouldn't be so bias against those who care to wear prototype every match . That's just silly , people can play the way that they like and who is anyone , besides CCP .. to place a restriction on how people can approach or play this game . You people have some nerve . You really think that newer players do not fight to gain the better materials and weapons ..??.. hell that's what militaries and anyone who is playing this game is trying to do and that's compete to the best of their abilities . Stop trying to hold hands and sing kum-bi-ya , while killing these same players at the same time . I don't own a single proto suit but when I do I WILL wear them as much as I want because I worked hard to get it . You people need to tone down the hate because you are the same players that own prototype gear and if it was such a problem you wouldn't . Fix it and stop being negative and bias . Come with suggestions and not with hate and ignorance . There's enough of that .. that goes on during game play and on the forums . NO ... TIERICIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER EITHER .. there use to be a nice selection of vehicle mods and weapons but since CCP tried to slip a little tiericide into the mix , now we just have three choices , no customization and no multiple selection of the same tier . Look at the newer weapons and how they are implementing the role changes and it's clear , when they follow their own direction it's somewhat clear but listening to the community is taking the customization factor out of the choices and the game . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 763	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:12:00 - [19] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Bax Zanith wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. If you believed that statement, then you wouldn't even be using proto gear. An event that gives SP for kills using militia weapons with militia dropsuits would be fun. Proto stompers would never participate in such an even, but that would just mean we earned more SP that week then they would. No offence but this type of thinking is counterproductive and hurts the game much more than it helps . Militia gear doesn't take away the fact that if a " Prototype " player uses militia , it will NOT perform like customary militia because of the SP's placed into items and weapons , so this would be fruitless . Place a militia trooper against any " Prototype " player in militia and the militia will loose eight times out of ten , not from lack of knowledge ( even though that would play a factor ) but because of the performance of the weapons and suits even . Maxed out shields and armor .. also weapons still carry over to any use of any suit and that particular weapon and more than likely that weapon will be a PR which most who played this game for at least four months have to prototype . You people need to stop being so bias against prototype players , those who have two or more prototype suits shouldn't be so bias against those who care to wear prototype every match . That's just silly , people can play the way that they like and who is anyone , besides CCP .. to place a restriction on how people can approach or play this game . You people have some nerve . You really think that newer players do not fight to gain the better materials and weapons ..??.. hell that's what militaries and anyone who is playing this game is trying to do and that's compete to the best of their abilities . Stop trying to hold hands and sing kum-bi-ya , while killing these same players at the same time . I don't own a single proto suit but when I do I WILL wear them as much as I want because I worked hard to get it . You people need to tone down the hate because you are the same players that own prototype gear and if it was such a problem you wouldn't . Fix it and stop being negative and bias . Come with suggestions and not with hate and ignorance . There's enough of that .. that goes on during game play and on the forums . NO ... TIERICIDE IS NOT THE ANSWER EITHER .. there use to be a nice selection of vehicle mods and weapons but since CCP tried to slip a little tiericide into the mix , now we just have three choices , no customization and no multiple selection of the same tier . Look at the newer weapons and how they are implementing the role changes and it's clear , when they follow their own direction it's somewhat clear but listening to the community is taking the customization factor out of the choices and the game . Skill bonuses don't work on militia gear.......... "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Clone D 250	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:13:00 - [20] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: Skill bonuses don't work on militia gear.......... CORRECTION: skill bonuses don't work. .
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3988	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:17:00 - [21] - Quote Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. If you think stomping would be anywhere near as bad without proto then you're sadly mistaken. No.
GLOBAL RAGE Consolidated Dust 50	Posted - 2014.04.20 21:49:00 - [22] - Quote One Eyed King wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. Considering I do much better when I wear better gear, I think you are mistaken. All other factors are equal (my own skill, internet connection, core skills, experience etc.), so the only difference is the gear. I compliment your post, and admire your attitude, but your mistaken. This game is based on who acquires the target first. Targets are picked up by passive scanning and visually, so a high SP squad will see you first and you'll get ganged up on. Some of the weapons are so fuktardedly RPG hosed, that they are SP accurate and no matter how good your thumbs are you cannot be effective. then there are the high latency douche bags, who do not take any damage, and this game is infested with them. They play DUST, because it fills a pitiful hole in their meaningless existence, and the lag allows them to be good at something-but it's a false sense of hope...lol!
BFT CDWIII Ultramarine Corp 11	Posted - 2014.04.21 02:38:00 - [23] - Quote Clone D wrote: For some perspective, I think it would be sweet to hold a 1 week militia gear event where everyone can only deploy to battle if they are wearing 100% militia gear. If not, then your deployment to the battlefield will fail. No matter how much proto you own, No matter if your corporation holds vast tracts of land, No matter what your user name, how long you've been around, or how much SP you have, You must deploy into battle wearing militia gear. It would be a 1 week vacation from protostomps and remind us of what life would be like if we all lived on even terms. Does this sound interesting to anyone else? Sounds too easy because the game is ALL about your CORE SKILLS!!! I use milita frontline for 99% of my battles and come out positive k/d and always make isk. Mlita gear for the win Cheaper gear for the win Fitting/Skill advisor any questions please ask
Toby Flenderson research lab 515	Posted - 2014.04.21 02:46:00 - [24] - Quote Clone D wrote: Youknowutimsayin wrote: If you think gear is what separates stompers from the stomped you're sadly mistaken. I stomp with militia gear, and I insult suckas with my militia gear kills, but I think it would be an eye opener to the community and maybe everyone would have a good time It's all about the happy! It seems kind of like a waste of time reminding people that some proto stompers may be able to stomp without proto gear. It's also a little dishonest to imply that stomping wouldn't be limited by an event like this. I think it's a good idea but I think the "you cannot deploy because..." Filter must be carefully considered
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2478	Posted - 2014.04.21 04:41:00 - [25] - Quote Except there is only like a third of the available gear in the game at militia level. Honestly.. it would be kind of boring and it would just turn into heavy spam most likely. I like what you are trying to do here but in reality it would probably be terrible.

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