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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 13:18:00 -
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I had a thought about camper cloak scouts what I was thinking is if the scout is stood still so he/she is invisible a low buzzing or humming sound should be heard or another idea was interference with the hud when in close proximity to a scout stood still .. like its a build up of energy from the cloak |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2029
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Posted - 2014.04.20 17:47:00 -
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No. What's the point of hiding when you could be heard. Can't you use our ******* eyes for once instead of having to rely on a crutch to?
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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:54:00 -
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How is it a crutch are u worried cause u would have to play smarter whats up you dont think you could lead another player in to a trap while searching where the low humming of a camped scout is that what ur a scared of having to use a bit more cunning |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2031
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Posted - 2014.04.20 19:58:00 -
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solid sektor 514 wrote:How is it a crutch are u worried cause u would have to play smarter whats up you dont think you could lead another player in to a trap while searching where the low humming of a camped scout is that what ur a scared of having to use a bit more cunning
'sneaks into a location and starts grabbing info about who's there and what they are using'
enemy 1- There's a scout near, look around for a bit
enemy 2- I see him! he's over there
'enemies 1 and 2 point their guns at me and melts me instantly'
Use your ******* eyes instead of asking for a crutch.
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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:08:00 -
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It not a crutch to every positive they should be a negative u are invisible with a little predator shimmering so after a few second of been stood still the negitive action would be a low hum or distortion to the players hud like the cloak is causeing a build up of energy for been in one place to long and if the other team starts looking that should be ur que to get out u sneaked in you sneak back out if you have the right mods on and not bricked it should be fine it been more smarter |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2032
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:16:00 -
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solid sektor 514 wrote:It not a crutch to every positive they should be a negative u are invisible with a little predator shimmering so after a few second of been stood still the negitive action would be a low hum or distortion to the players hud like the cloak is causeing a build up of energy for been in one place to long and if the other team starts looking that should be ur que to get out u sneaked in you sneak back out if you have the right mods on and not bricked it should be fine it been more smarter
Your explanation makes 0 sense, it's illogical, and it's a justification to make something that you don't like nerfed. No.
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:21:00 -
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On one side, it makes hiding difficult for cloak scouts. On another side, a really clever scout can use this to set an even better trap. I like setting better traps, and I like keeping the scout population smart. On another side, I don't use cloaks to begin with... And there is nothing better than sneaking up on an enemy who knows you're there. |
solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:34:00 -
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That where u are wrong I like the cloak and scouts as I have a shotty and daul pistol setup so you are really off the mark saying I dont like the cloak I would like it to be a bit more engaging and having and to say it is illogical to me is like saying to to hard to workout how to play that bit smarter I would know how to set up a RE trap while I escape |
Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2032
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:38:00 -
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solid sektor 514 wrote:That where u are wrong I like the cloak and scouts as I have a shotty and daul pistol setup so you are really off the mark saying I dont like the cloak I would like it to be a bit more engaging and having and to say it is illogical to me is like saying to to hard to workout how to play that bit smarter I would know how to set up a RE trap while I escape
1: learn to type in a way that is more.... English.
2: You are taking a equipment that is meant to be stealthy, and giving it a mechanic that makes it unstealthy. That's not only counter-productive, that's just plan stupid.
Shimmer is already enough to hurt the damn thing, this would just make it useless. No.
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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 20:47:00 -
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I am actually dislexic but I now see that you are going to a new level of low cause you can't take my opinion it people like you that will kill this game not wanting changes wanting ur easy kill .. having to play smater probably to much for u .. I guess adapt or die don't count for you |
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echo47
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:02:00 -
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Cloak users sure do work hard to defend it.
But he is right noise does not make sens unless the cloaked scout is de-lcloaking.
I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
2
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:11:00 -
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While moving or sneaking around there would be no nosie it just when stood in one spot for a length time but the standard advanced prototype or cloak skill would make it that you can stand in one spot longer in away its like the heat build up of a scambler rifle .. but instead of heat you would emit a low hum |
Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
7
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:15:00 -
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Did no one read what I said. You could use the fact that your enemy doesn't know your exact location to set an amazing trap. |
solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:25:00 -
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Yeah I saw.. it would bring a new dynamic it be like
Enemy hears the humming " I'll look behind this box" BOOM just walked in to a remote explosive trap
Or a lone wolf hears buzzing panics and leaves while running scared BANG shotgun in the back
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Exionous
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:38:00 -
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This is why I suggested that flux grenades reduce the cloak's energy to 0. It's a reasonable drop to the power of the cloak field so people can just shut up before cloaks become the next Flaylock Pistol.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2034
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:43:00 -
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echo47 wrote:Cloak users sure do work hard to defend it.
But he is right noise does not make sens unless the cloaked scout is de-lcloaking.
I would like to not have bullshit in Dust. I only defend thing that need defending.........
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2034
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:50:00 -
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solid sektor 514 wrote:While moving or sneaking around there would be no nosie it just when stood in one spot for a length time but the standard advanced prototype or cloak skill would make it that you can stand in one spot longer in away its like the heat build up of a scambler rifle .. but instead of heat you would emit a low hum
again, that makes 0 sense for it to be like that. a thing does not make more noise when it is in less use. Also, again, this nerfs actual scouts. No.
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Godin Thekiller
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2034
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Posted - 2014.04.20 22:02:00 -
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Finn Colman wrote:Did no one read what I said. You could use the fact that your enemy doesn't know your exact location to set an amazing trap.
That is not a good argument, as that's not the cloak's purpose; it's not meant as a offensive tool.
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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.20 22:16:00 -
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If that is the case then what you just said the cloak is not an offensive tool ccp should make it equip a cloak you forfit any weapons as in ur words the cloak is not offensive just be a recon ...
What I am trying to put is a new idea for a dynamic of cloaks that if you want to camp a spot cloaked after a few second there is a build up of energy which cause a humming sound just like if u shoot a scram rifle the heat builds up causing a negative effect on you ...
The sound wouldn't be a pin point sound so if u are wearing headphones you can't say oohh right he's in that corner
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.21 01:00:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Finn Colman wrote:Did no one read what I said. You could use the fact that your enemy doesn't know your exact location to set an amazing trap. That is not a good argument, as that's not the cloak's purpose; it's not meant as a offensive tool.
It was not meant as an argument, just a statement. |
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Exionous
True Pros Forever
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Posted - 2014.04.21 01:08:00 -
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solid sektor 514 wrote:I am actually dislexic but I now see that you are going to a new level of low cause you can't take my opinion it people like you that will kill this game not wanting changes wanting ur easy kill .. having to play smater probably to much for u .. I guess adapt or die don't count for you
I hate to pull the ironic card out, but dyslexic people have an IQ that is anywhere from 20-50% lower than the average person. So the words "having to play smarter probably too much for you" is just brimming with irony.
Especially with the stupidity of your idea.
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Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.04.21 01:14:00 -
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Exionous wrote:solid sektor 514 wrote:I am actually dislexic but I now see that you are going to a new level of low cause you can't take my opinion it people like you that will kill this game not wanting changes wanting ur easy kill .. having to play smater probably to much for u .. I guess adapt or die don't count for you I hate to pull the ironic card out, but dyslexic people have an IQ that is anywhere from 20-50% lower than the average person. So the words "having to play smarter probably too much for you" is just brimming with irony. Especially with the stupidity of your idea.
I'm taking psychology, there is no correlation between those two things.
Also I'm dysgrapic, dysphasic, and autistic.... with an overall IQ just below that of a genius (genius in 3/4 IQ areas, and significantly below average in the remaining one). I'm in college at the age of 16. I take offense to your misinformed statement. Go back to your merc quarters and come back when you have valid information. |
solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.21 01:35:00 -
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Lol @ exionous
It you that is the stupid one some of the greatest inventors / scientists was dislexic Albert Einstein was dislexic I think it you that should go back school and maybe learn something before posting something so idiotic like that what a fool
And also look up what been dialexic actually is while u you are at it |
Denn Maell
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
318
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Posted - 2014.04.21 03:36:00 -
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Not to get us back on topic, butGǪ
If memory serves there was supposed to be some kind of noise if you passed too close to a cloaked individual. I remember either a dev or a CPM mentioned it in the discussion on how to introduce the cloak without it being OP.
Of course in that same discussion the ability to fire while cloaked was of heated concern (Both for and against).
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solid sektor 514
Ostrakon Agency
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.21 09:45:00 -
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People here are always quick sprouting adapt or die htfu but can't take a little idea that would take away the easy mode for them having to bit clever when scouting also it gives new comers a chance instead of running blind in to trouble taking away the easy kill
I run scouts and I sometimes think it just to easy .. I am not scared to have a bit more of a challenge .. if a scout suite is setup right you can see most enemys comeing towards you meters away
the same people just can't take a suggestion to try and help this game and as I said before its the same people that would kill the game not willing to try anything new
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Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
570
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Posted - 2014.04.21 10:47:00 -
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the instant you decloak all benefits you had against E-war fly out the window. sure you're still "invisible" for a second afterward but you have a health bar and a chevron over your head. not to mention that the decloaking effect has a sound que and turns you into a disco ball.
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Draco Cerberus
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
865
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Posted - 2014.04.21 12:45:00 -
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Ah, so all the little blue people running around is safe mode? Hardly, as a cloaked scout has a gun in his pocket, it is much easier to kill them if they are blue shimmering waifs floating around. You also hear the crunch of footsteps behind you when they are creeping up behind you ...listen... a low hum would be a nerf, as would a visible indicator on the tac net all would negate what the cloak is "supposed to do" and they are also quite visible at the moment. If you are running heavy you will never ever see them but really isn't that the idea?
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Gyn Wallace
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
98
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Posted - 2014.04.21 14:03:00 -
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Draco Cerberus wrote:... and they are also quite visible at the moment. If you are running heavy you will never ever see them but really isn't that the idea?
Judge's video shows some of the circumstances (bright lighting) where scouts aren't just stealthy, but are completely invisible, even while sprinting. Oddly, on darker maps, cloaked scouts are easier to see when they move. Instead of defending the current over-powered state of the cloak, the cloakers should join the effort to balance the cloaks. If the community doesn't present CCP with a more balanced revision to the cloak.... well enjoy your moment in the OP sun, its likely to be followed by another heavy-handed over reaction when CCP gets around to nerfing it. You should welcome a modest nerf. |
Finn Colman
Immortal Guides
8
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Posted - 2014.04.21 15:56:00 -
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Gyn Wallace wrote:Draco Cerberus wrote:... and they are also quite visible at the moment. If you are running heavy you will never ever see them but really isn't that the idea? Judge's video shows some of the circumstances (bright lighting) where scouts aren't just stealthy, but are completely invisible, even while sprinting. Oddly, on darker maps, cloaked scouts are easier to see when they move. Instead of defending the current over-powered state of the cloak, the cloakers should join the effort to balance the cloaks. If the community doesn't present CCP with a more balanced revision to the cloak.... well enjoy your moment in the OP sun, its likely to be followed by another heavy-handed over reaction when CCP gets around to nerfing it. You should welcome a modest nerf.
This non-cloak scout approves of this point of argument.
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