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KalOfTheRathi
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Posted - 2014.04.20 11:17:00 -
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It is hard to solve it would seem. Many ideas have been formulated on these forums by Mercs that either cannot code or understand coding. Plus, none of us actually have the code so who knows what might work and which simple idea will take three solid months of engineering.
They did the Merc must be moving every so often thing and our AFK legion solved it with rubber bands. Effective.
The game only really counts one thing. SP. Everything else counts for naught. With SP you get better gear, use less PG/CPU and have more fun killing your friends and neighbors in New Eden.
If you don't have enough SP to get to the next level that you are interested in, well AFK.
Forge Guns don't work, AFK.
Heavy suits gonna get Nerf Hammered AFK.
Bored with the daily/weekly cap that never got the roll-over it was promised to get (this SP cap solutions was a place holder, BTW) AFK.
And nothing has solved it so far. In FW you can Friendly Fire them to death but it does come at a cost. How many are AFK in FW anyway?
Good Luck.
And so it goes.
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KalOfTheRathi
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:39:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:The Attorney General wrote:The only way to stop AFK'ing is to remove passive SP gain from being alive.
CCP won't do that though, because a lot of players wouldn't be able to cap out then.
Full disclosure: I'm afking right now with my heavy alt. I am not wasting ISK on an infantry toon until CCP fixes the skill bug. This is the real answer, OP. The question you should be asking CCP and Rouge is why are they rewarding players who AFK with big, fat piles of SP in every game? Seriously?
You should not even consider this as a possibility. CCP/Mothership drives EVE with Only Passive SP. No active WP or SP. You would not get EVE players to play Dust without passive SP. And the many gods know that EVE and its Pod Peeps are the best thing in the world to CCP/Mothership. That and their monthly rental fees ... so they can get their Passive SP.
Removing Passive SP is not going to happen. Now if Passive SP was the only solution and you could get Passive SP without having to log in, that might just work. But as long as there is Active SP then there will be AFK.
Plus, as stated above, FOTM or reactions to Day 1 OP gear/weapons will always drive AFK (and sniping as mentioned). Since this game is supported by CCP/Shanghai there will always be Day 1 OP bits.
Welcome to Dust
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KalOfTheRathi
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Posted - 2014.04.20 21:44:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:The entire War Point system is horribly flawed. Someone can top the match-board with an incredible K/D Ratio while some sucker died five or ten times keeping an objective from being flipped and does more for winning the match. Passive SP is supposed to partially fill the gap of what a player should have gotten. We tried War Points only SP in closed Beta and it failed.
Everyone here who said improve/fix the game experience nailed the answer. I want to add a command order, 'Hold Territory' that would reward with 1 WP per second, 2 WP if it is a Null Cannon Control. The Defend order is fine for what it does but the circle isn't large enough to support/hold a Null Cannon.
Several releases ago my alt heavy would routinely hold Charlie in Manus Peak (Jesus Mountain map). By himself using a HMG and a breach SMG. If he could hold it for the entire match we would win. I didn't make top of the list but we won. I quit doing that because CR/RR Day 1 OP weapons made it much too expensive to run a Heavy after his HMG was gutted. I was doing better with the SMG for range kills.
And so it goes.
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KalOfTheRathi
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Posted - 2014.04.21 07:29:00 -
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Niccolo deLuce wrote:I'm pretty sure he was just talking about the passive SP from within battles, hence the staying alive part, and not the overall passive sp gain. I agree on that. The problem is the EVE model is Only Passive SP and you don't have to do anything online except farm ISK. Until you reach the level you want.
Changing one portion of the Dust SP/WP solution is just wrong. How do you balance the QQ Kittens that want to limit tank to two per map. Fine, then I'll AFK until it is my turn to drop my tank. BTW, I want SP while I am waiting my turn to play this match.
Just play your own game.
And if these QQ Kittens can drop their Grandmother's busy body nature Dust would be a lot better.
They should quit trying to play other people's games for them. Because they are just trying to have CCP/Shanghai stab them in the back for them. 
Or, we can just pick a daily change at random from these QQ filled forums.
Different one everyday! Log in and see what you won't be able to do!
Hint, it will be whatever the Merc you hate the most has chosen. Murphy's law rules all others.
And so it goes.
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