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Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8037	Posted - 2014.04.20 00:07:00 - [1] - Quote In Dust, unlike other shooters, everything you use is a paid for asset. Similarly in EVE, everything you use is a paid for asset. Now somewhere along the way CCP realized that crashing your paid for assets into other player's paid for assets in an attempt to destroy them does not create good gameplay. So honestly, CCP, why must we reinvent the wheel here? I propose we remove vehicle-to-vehicle collision damage and instead have players simply "bump off" like in EVE when you collide. Doing so would improve many gameplay aspects, which although some players of the trolling nature may enjoy, we all know are bad gameplay. When an enemy tank simply drives into a LAV to destroy it. When a friendly tank doesn't care about his surroundings and moves directly into a LAV and destroys it. When an LAV drives directly into a dropship trying to deploy/land and destroys it. When an enemy calls in a cheap dropship with the sole intention of ramming it into another dropship to destroy it. When a player places a cluster of remote explosives on the hood of an LAV, crashes into an HAV, and uses the destruction of his own LAV to trigger the detonation of his remote explosives. All of these are bad gameplay. A couple of them a simply unnecessary hazards for LAV drivers, and a couple of them are super cheap and effective ways of dealing with an enemy vehicle presence that their team refuses to combat with traditional anti-vehicle options (AV weapons, remotes, and other vehicles). Note that on the subject of "jihad jeeping," I'm not saying it should be completely removed, but rather using the collision destruction of your LAV to detonate the explosives should be removed. You could still do such tactics by using proximity explosives or manually detonating your explosives. Amarr are the good guys.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8039	Posted - 2014.04.20 00:29:00 - [2] - Quote When you say "this is Dust" are you implying "this is not EVE so we don't need all the same things?" Because what I am stating is not something that only applies to any single game. If you're paying any sort of in-game currency for something, as in they are not magically spawning entities, then being able to destroy them simply by crashing into them is not just bad gameplay, it is fundamentally broken gameplay as well. You want man to be inhumane to man? Sure, go ahead! But do it without broken gameplay. Amarr are the good guys.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8039	Posted - 2014.04.20 00:37:00 - [3] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: I hate this tactic... I've also used the jihad jeep in desperate situations. just because you don't like it isn't a good reason to remove it, it's probably the worst reason... maybe even a decent reason to keep it... but by your logic I hate proto gear (though I also use it occasionally) so should we remove proto gear? I also hate how scouts can jump and how heavies cant jump up a 1 inch step... so can we remove jumping? I get you think its poor gameplay and you hate it, but it's not game breaking like PC is right now for example and it isn't an exploit.... so I don't see how you justify the removal of vehicle collisions. I've used jihad jeeps before too as well as rammed an ADS with a MLT dropship. I knew this argument would come up when I created this thread, "You only want to remove it because you hate it." No, that is not the case at all. I hate when I go up against teams of full proto in pub matches but I don't want to remove it and I definitely don't support gear-restricted matches. So please, if you're going to argue against me here please do so with actual reasoning instead of "You just hate it." And yes, PC is pretty broken but that doesn't mean this isn't broken either. Multiple things can be broken at the same time, and I'm pretty sure the team that works on PC is not the same team that works on vehicle gameplay. Amarr are the good guys.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8040	Posted - 2014.04.20 00:39:00 - [4] - Quote And for the record, why don't you read the entire OP and see that I'm not totally against jihad jeeps, just not in their current form. Amarr are the good guys.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8056	Posted - 2014.04.20 06:33:00 - [5] - Quote Seymor Krelborn wrote: if your only reason is that you hate it it isn't a good reason to remove collision... you have yet to give a reason besides you hate it, even when confronted with the argument you said you were prepared for it.... Seriously man, how am I supposed to argue with you if you can't even read the damn thread? Please quote one time where I said I hate it as my argument? That's right, I never did. I provided my reasoning and you choose to ignore it and substitute it with an argument for me. Amarr are the good guys.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8067	Posted - 2014.04.23 06:21:00 - [6] - Quote Finn Colman wrote: Interplanetary Insanitarium wrote: shaman oga wrote: I must agree with the amarr, i've played for too long to be rammed by the first idiot able to pilot a DS. HEY! I'm amarr. And I say being able to ram is okey dokey! So thanks for unconditionally agreeing with what I have to say. Just remove collision damage and keep environmental damage so i can ram into people at full speed and make them crash. I don't need the kill, I just want to ram people. But still keep it so that I can gingerly creep up on snipers and squash them. This is perfectly fine with me. I approve of this. If you make me crash by ramming me, that's fine, I just hate blowing up on contact with another ship. As am I. If you want to crash and bump me into the environment to kill me then ok, good for you. As long as it is not the act of the enemy dropship crashing into me that kills me, but rather the colliding into the environment, then there is nothing wrong. Amarr are the good guys.

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