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SNEAZE-GUARD Black Death Pirates 1	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:41:00 - [1] - Quote you think people are that stupid to not noticed you ONLY NERF'D RAIL RIFLES BY 2 % !!!! and tried to make it look like 12 WHEN you CANT COUNT THE OVERALL 10% that ALL the guns recieved!!! that rail is SO OVERPOWERED in EVERY WaY!! and can ONLY be FIXED in CERTAIN Ways. 1st you made it so that -No One BUT another Panzy rail rifle COWARD can get him!!! Because it has -TOO MUCH RANGE -!AT ALL RANGES! AND IS A -HYBRID WTF!!! Given -THE BEST Scope AND NO -RECOIL OR -DISPERSION !!! THATS WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED Every Thing thats in -CAPITAL! just as you already know -rail tank sniping couldnt be dealt with So you made limited ammo for All the turrets instead. NOW you did -the SAME **** with Rail Guns
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 6958	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:43:00 - [2] - Quote ............................................________ ....................................,.-GÇÿGÇ¥...................``~., .............................,.-GÇ¥...................................GÇ£-., .........................,/...............................................GÇ¥:, .....................,?......................................................\, .................../...........................................................,} ................./......................................................,:`^`..} .............../...................................................,:GÇ¥........./ ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../ ............./__.(.....GÇ£~-,_..............................,:`........../ .........../(_....GÇ¥~,_........GÇ£~,_....................,:`........_/ ..........{.._$;_......GÇ¥=,_.......GÇ£-,_.......,.-~-,},.~GÇ¥;/....} ...........((.....~_.......GÇ¥=-._......GÇ£;,,./`..../GÇ¥............../ ...,,,___.\`~,......GÇ£~.,....................`.....}............../ ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-GÇ¥ ............/.`~,......`-...............................\....../\ .............\`~.-,.....................................\|,./.....\,__ ,,_..........}.>-._\...................................\|..............`=~-, .....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\ ...................`=~-,,.\,...............................\ ................................`:,,...........................`\..............__ .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==`` ........................................_\..........._,-%.......`\ ...................................,<`.._\|_,-&``................`\ Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS] [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1813	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:43:00 - [3] - Quote Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1083	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:44:00 - [4] - Quote It's been a while since the last "RR is OP" thread, brings back memories "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro t¢«
OmniMerc 49	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:44:00 - [5] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 942	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:45:00 - [6] - Quote I have this image in my head of this guy draped over his keyboard twitching because he just had a stroke. Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you! Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4292	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:49:00 - [7] - Quote Combat rifle is OP. Nuff said Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1814	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:55:00 - [8] - Quote OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want.
OmniMerc 50	Posted - 2014.04.19 21:57:00 - [9] - Quote Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. Rr op too much range for that dps Cr way too op its dps is waay too much, std level. Op hmg, it renders every weapon useless
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1816	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:04:00 - [10] - Quote OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. Rr op too much range for that dps Cr way too op its dps is waay too much, std level. Op hmg, it renders every weapon useless Comon.... Slip out of the emotion... Take a step back and look.. Even the stuff you say yourself... So the RR is powerful one way and the CR another? the HMG a different way... SO they are all counterable? Are there some guns that are still useless... Cough Flaylock* well? yes.... But This is an amazing job for CCP... And after we have spent 1 year on nerfing and buffing? and then testing? it's a giant waste of time... We have core mechanic issues, that are DIRE in DUST and you care about the RR being a little to strong at long range? Please............

OmniMerc 50	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:06:00 - [11] - Quote Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. Rr op too much range for that dps Cr way too op its dps is waay too much, std level. Op hmg, it renders every weapon useless Comon.... Slip out of the emotion... Take a step back and look.. Even the stuff you say yourself... So the RR is powerful one way and the CR another? the HMG a different way... SO they are all counterable? Are there some guns that are still useless... Cough Flaylock* well? yes.... But This is an amazing job for CCP... And after we have spent 1 year on nerfing and buffing? and then testing? it's a giant waste of time... We have core mechanic issues, that are DIRE in DUST and you care about the RR being a little to strong at long range? Please............ No Rr is op Cr is very op Hmg is uncounterabke
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 556	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:13:00 - [12] - Quote But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. [/quote] Rr op too much range for that dps Cr way too op its dps is waay too much, std level. Op hmg, it renders every weapon useless[/quote] Comon.... Slip out of the emotion... Take a step back and look.. Even the stuff you say yourself... So the RR is powerful one way and the CR another? the HMG a different way... SO they are all counterable? Are there some guns that are still useless... Cough Flaylock* well? yes.... But This is an amazing job for CCP... And after we have spent 1 year on nerfing and buffing? and then testing? it's a giant waste of time... We have core mechanic issues, that are DIRE in DUST and you care about the RR being a little to strong at long range? Please............ [/quote] No Rr is op Cr is very op Hmg is uncounterabke[/quote] ROFL hmg is uncounterable? I can't believe anyone is saying this. I am sorry but i really can not take anything you say in this thread seriously now with such outlandish comments. The HMG is probably the easiest weapon for an assault frame to counter. Unless of course your only tactic is to run head first into every opponent you see.
Tectonic Fusion 1503	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:13:00 - [13] - Quote Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. You were never in chromosome.....were you. OmniMerc wrote: Hmg is uncounterabke I must be special then. Also it's "not able to be countered"....even if you spelled it "right", it still wouldn't be a real word. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
OmniMerc 50	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:16:00 - [14] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. Rr op too much range for that dps Cr way too op its dps is waay too much, std level. Op hmg, it renders every weapon useless[/quote] Comon.... Slip out of the emotion... Take a step back and look.. Even the stuff you say yourself... So the RR is powerful one way and the CR another? the HMG a different way... SO they are all counterable? Are there some guns that are still useless... Cough Flaylock* well? yes.... But This is an amazing job for CCP... And after we have spent 1 year on nerfing and buffing? and then testing? it's a giant waste of time... We have core mechanic issues, that are DIRE in DUST and you care about the RR being a little to strong at long range? Please............ [/quote] No Rr is op Cr is very op Hmg is uncounterabke[/quote] ROFL hmg is uncounterable? I can't believe anyone is saying this. I am sorry but i really can not take anything you say in this thread seriously now with such outlandish comments. The HMG is probably the easiest weapon for an assault frame to counter. Unless of course your only tactic is to run head first into every opponent you see.[/quote] Its very op See a heavy? Op sob kilks you before you can run
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 6968	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:18:00 - [15] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: You were never in chromosome.....were you. Yes, she was in Chromosome. S/he started playing on 25 January. Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS] [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 556	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:28:00 - [16] - Quote Omnimerc honestly if you die every time you see a heavy its not because the hmg is OP its a problem between the controller and the console IE operator error. All you have to do to counter a heavy is engage them at about 50 meters out and learn to aim. Or if you are feeling lucky and adventerous use a scout with speed mods and a shotgun and out strafe a heavy. Only takes a few blasts from a shotgun. If you are just running head first into heavies yea the hmg is going to chew you up. I am curiouse myself though because i am starting to think that the shotgun is actually a higher dps close quarters weapon. I dont have the numbers in front of me to do the math though.
OmniMerc 50	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:30:00 - [17] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Omnimerc honestly if you die every time you see a heavy its not because the hmg is OP its a problem between the controller and the console IE operator error. All you have to do to counter a heavy is engage them at about 50 meters out and learn to aim. Or if you are feeling lucky and adventerous use a scout with speed mods and a shotgun and out strafe a heavy. Only takes a few blasts from a shotgun. If you are just running head first into heavies yea the hmg is going to chew you up. I am curiouse myself though because i am starting to think that the shotgun is actually a higher dps close quarters weapon. I dont have the numbers in front of me to do the math though. If you see a heavy, as in if they have los, the hmg has such high dps you are most likely going to die before running to cover So basically counter to hmg, stay 50m away>balance
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 557	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:49:00 - [18] - Quote OmniMerc wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Omnimerc honestly if you die every time you see a heavy its not because the hmg is OP its a problem between the controller and the console IE operator error. All you have to do to counter a heavy is engage them at about 50 meters out and learn to aim. Or if you are feeling lucky and adventerous use a scout with speed mods and a shotgun and out strafe a heavy. Only takes a few blasts from a shotgun. If you are just running head first into heavies yea the hmg is going to chew you up. I am curiouse myself though because i am starting to think that the shotgun is actually a higher dps close quarters weapon. I dont have the numbers in front of me to do the math though. If you see a heavy, as in if they have los, the hmg has such high dps you are most likely going to die before running to cover So basically counter to hmg, stay 50m away>balance Yes the heavy with a hmg is very much meant for close quarters combat. Its actually right now the only thing a HMG excels at. You might as well say snipers are OP because they kill at long range so effectively with the argument you are making. The HMG is a close quarters combat monger the weapons that come close it it as far as dps are the shotgun and nova knives (charged) which is right where the heavy with hmg should be. Also yes heavies generally try to ambush players around corners to play to their strengths.
OmniMerc 55	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:51:00 - [19] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Omnimerc honestly if you die every time you see a heavy its not because the hmg is OP its a problem between the controller and the console IE operator error. All you have to do to counter a heavy is engage them at about 50 meters out and learn to aim. Or if you are feeling lucky and adventerous use a scout with speed mods and a shotgun and out strafe a heavy. Only takes a few blasts from a shotgun. If you are just running head first into heavies yea the hmg is going to chew you up. I am curiouse myself though because i am starting to think that the shotgun is actually a higher dps close quarters weapon. I dont have the numbers in front of me to do the math though. If you see a heavy, as in if they have los, the hmg has such high dps you are most likely going to die before running to cover So basically counter to hmg, stay 50m away>balance Yes the heavy with a hmg is very much meant for close quarters combat. Its actually right now the only thing a HMG excels at. You might as well say snipers are OP because they kill at long range so effectively with the argument you are making. The HMG is a close quarters combat monger the weapons that come close it it as far as dps are the shotgun and nova knives (charged) which is right where the heavy with hmg should be. Also yes heavies generally try to ambush players around corners to play to their strengths. Ok I have a short range gun, I insta win because its a cqc gun, and on maps im spammed you need a heavy to kill a heavy Uh huh
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1409	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:16:00 - [20] - Quote Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. The only op weapon is the combat rifle

The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2857	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:18:00 - [21] - Quote Hurr durr OP tried to take on a rail rifle with a shotgun from 60m away. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4814	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:18:00 - [22] - Quote OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. Rr op too much range for that dps Cr way too op its dps is waay too much, std level. Op hmg, it renders every weapon useless Comon.... Slip out of the emotion... Take a step back and look.. Even the stuff you say yourself... So the RR is powerful one way and the CR another? the HMG a different way... SO they are all counterable? Are there some guns that are still useless... Cough Flaylock* well? yes.... But This is an amazing job for CCP... And after we have spent 1 year on nerfing and buffing? and then testing? it's a giant waste of time... We have core mechanic issues, that are DIRE in DUST and you care about the RR being a little to strong at long range? Please............ No Rr is op Cr is very op Hmg is uncounterabke PLC or Forge to the face counters HMG I'm from the weird side of the internet
Serimos Haeraven The Exemplars Top Men. 727	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:22:00 - [23] - Quote Sneaze, you can't seriously think you thought this topic would be taken seriously with the way you wrote that. Maybe if you took the 12 year old out of your tone I would be more prone to agree with you, but that's an if. Tankers are being diagnosed with a new disease; Cancer of the Assault Dropship. Many of them don't survive.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 6982	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:25:00 - [24] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: PLC or Forge to the face counters HMG Along with Shotguns, Nova Knives, Mid-Long Ranged Weapons, Remote Explosives, and Combat Rifles. I'm not sure why you dignified his post with a response. Proud member of D!ck Nibbler Squad [DNS] [s]Text[/s] <------ That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 757	Posted - 2014.04.20 08:33:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: ............................................________ ....................................,.-GÇÿGÇ¥...................``~., .............................,.-GÇ¥...................................GÇ£-., .........................,/...............................................GÇ¥:, .....................,?......................................................\, .................../...........................................................,} ................./......................................................,:`^`..} .............../...................................................,:GÇ¥........./ ..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../ ............./__.(.....GÇ£~-,_..............................,:`........../ .........../(_....GÇ¥~,_........GÇ£~,_....................,:`........_/ ..........{.._$;_......GÇ¥=,_.......GÇ£-,_.......,.-~-,},.~GÇ¥;/....} ...........((.....~_.......GÇ¥=-._......GÇ£;,,./`..../GÇ¥............../ ...,,,___.\`~,......GÇ£~.,....................`.....}............../ ............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-GÇ¥ ............/.`~,......`-...............................\....../\ .............\`~.-,.....................................\|,./.....\,__ ,,_..........}.>-._\...................................\|..............`=~-, .....`=~-,_\_......`\,.................................\ ...................`=~-,,.\,...............................\ ................................`:,,...........................`\..............__ .....................................`=-,...................,%`>--==`` ........................................_\..........._,-%.......`\ ...................................,<`.._\|_,-&``................`\ ......................................__................................................ .............................,-~`-»lllllll`~,...................................... .......................,-~`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll-»`-,........................... ..................,-~llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll-,..................... ...............,-llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll.\.................. .............;`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll,-~~-,llllllllllllllllllll\................. ..............\lllllllllllllllllllllllllll/.........\;;;;llllllllllll,-`~-,............... ...............\lllllllllllllllllllll,-...........`~-~-,...(.(-»`,`,................. ................\llllllllllll,-~.....................)_-\..`;..).................... .................\,-`-»,`)............,-~`~................/..................... ..................\|/.../.../~,......-~,-~`;................/.\.................. ................./.../.../.../..,-,..~,.`~...................\................. ................\|.../.../.../.`...\...........................)....)-»`~,.................. ................\|./.../..../.......)......,.)`~-,............/....\|..)...`~-,............. ..............././.../...,`-,.....`-,...`....,---......\..../...../..\|.........-»```~-,,,, ...............(..........)`~-,....``.,-~.,-......\|.../..../.../............\........ ................-,.......`-,...`~,..``.,,,-..........\|.,...,...\|..............\........ ...................,.........`-,...)-,..............,-`...,-....(`-,............\....... ......................f`-,.........`-,/...-,___,,-~....,-......\|...`-,..........\........ Dobble Faceplant, because one isent enough "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results*." - Albert Einstein
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1651	Posted - 2014.04.20 08:48:00 - [26] - Quote SNEAZE-GUARD wrote: you think people are that stupid to not noticed you ONLY NERF'D RAIL RIFLES BY 2 % !!!! and tried to make it look like 12 WHEN you CANT COUNT THE OVERALL 10% that ALL the guns recieved!!! that rail is SO OVERPOWERED in EVERY WaY!! and can ONLY be FIXED in CERTAIN Ways. 1st you made it so that -No One BUT another Panzy rail rifle COWARD can get him!!! Because it has -TOO MUCH RANGE -!AT ALL RANGES! AND IS A -HYBRID WTF!!! Given -THE BEST Scope AND NO -RECOIL OR -DISPERSION !!! THATS WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED Every Thing thats in -CAPITAL! just as you already know -rail tank sniping couldnt be dealt with So you made limited ammo for All the turrets instead. NOW you did -the SAME **** with Rail Guns love it absolutely love it. Reading your In depth description of how op the rail rifle is really made for some good thought provoking discussion. Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Paladin Sas Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 339	Posted - 2014.04.20 09:37:00 - [27] - Quote the only OP weapon in DUST is a full squad making effective use of coms. learn the buddy system, it counters everything.
Hawkings Greenback Red Star. EoN. 135	Posted - 2014.04.20 11:16:00 - [28] - Quote Dexter307 wrote: Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. The only op weapon is the combat rifle Care to back that up with some facts because otherwise it gets taken as seriously as the OP GÇ£Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.GÇ¥ GÇò Frank Zappa
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3513	Posted - 2014.04.20 11:22:00 - [29] - Quote SNEAZE-GUARD wrote: you think people are that stupid to not noticed you ONLY NERF'D RAIL RIFLES BY 2 % !!!! and tried to make it look like 12 WHEN you CANT COUNT THE OVERALL 10% that ALL the guns recieved!!! that rail is SO OVERPOWERED in EVERY WaY!! and can ONLY be FIXED in CERTAIN Ways. 1st you made it so that -No One BUT another Panzy rail rifle COWARD can get him!!! Because it has -TOO MUCH RANGE -!AT ALL RANGES! AND IS A -HYBRID WTF!!! Given -THE BEST Scope AND NO -RECOIL OR -DISPERSION !!! THATS WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED Every Thing thats in -CAPITAL! just as you already know -rail tank sniping couldnt be dealt with So you made limited ammo for All the turrets instead. NOW you did -the SAME **** with Rail Guns Can you maybe not speak ever again?
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 571	Posted - 2014.04.20 11:25:00 - [30] - Quote Bethhy wrote: OmniMerc wrote: Bethhy wrote: Did it kill you so it needs a nerf? This is all that can be otherwise said. It actually is op, like the cr But how is one OP when the other Is? isn't that some semblance of balance? Are they both OP at the same thing? Or Do they have Different Strengths? What About the SCR? I know that thing is still nasty and the Amarr Assault suits don't even have their bonuses. What about the HMG? What about the Shotgun? Wait if so many guns are OP? hmm... At some point you have to take a step back and look at what is happening.. Because there has never been balance like this. And when Guns like the Forge, Mass Driver, Laser(Heat Bonuses) and suits with broken bonuses start actually working in DUST? we are gonna see more cry's of Guns being OP... And That's what we want. I believe what you're trying to say here is some kind of valid information. The kind this community blatantly ignores.

Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 287	Posted - 2014.04.20 12:06:00 - [31] - Quote This thread made my head hurt Welcome to you're "DOOM"
IVIaster LUKE Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn 435	Posted - 2014.04.20 13:45:00 - [32] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: This thread made my head hurt Ditto. Is there a Doctor in the house(forums)? >Sicas roll...and Pyhons jet...and Maddys keep on dippin...you keep talking all that crap....I ain't trippin.
Gelhad Thremyr Quebec United Caps and Mercs 238	Posted - 2014.04.20 14:02:00 - [33] - Quote OmniMerc wrote: Thurak1 wrote: Omnimerc honestly if you die every time you see a heavy its not because the hmg is OP its a problem between the controller and the console IE operator error. All you have to do to counter a heavy is engage them at about 50 meters out and learn to aim. Or if you are feeling lucky and adventerous use a scout with speed mods and a shotgun and out strafe a heavy. Only takes a few blasts from a shotgun. If you are just running head first into heavies yea the hmg is going to chew you up. I am curiouse myself though because i am starting to think that the shotgun is actually a higher dps close quarters weapon. I dont have the numbers in front of me to do the math though. If you see a heavy, as in if they have los, the hmg has such high dps you are most likely going to die before running to cover So basically counter to hmg, stay 50m away>balance Indeed, i killed a heavy roaming heavy doing the aldin kan jeep manoeuver, was with an adv scout and shred him with an duvolle assault rifle. Stay with your range advantage. On the other hand, the rail rifle is still stupidly accurate in a 5 m less combat against a combat rifle. It happened too many time but i think its because those who killed me were using a mouse and keyboard and those should be removed, they give an unfair hardware advantage. For example when the scout strafe with a keyboard the move impulse is set immediatly to 1.0 instead of using the analog value of the dual shock controller. To me its like saying you should use a keyboard and a mouse to play this game...


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