DUST Search - My first time with a PLC

Galvan Nized wrote:

AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote:

LT SHANKS wrote:

Spectral Clone wrote:

Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it.

Tried it.

Tanks will zoom away by the time your second shot is ready.

You can't use plasma cannon alone for AV, except against LAVs.

A standard plasma cannon will give you 75 WP every time you hit an LAV. It will still take 3 or four shots to down an laV though, so it's not useful in that way either.

In combination with a scout and remot explosives though, it is deadly.

1. Use a cloak and run up being a tank that is trying to solo or that is sniping. (for some nonsense reason, tanks are still incredibly fast in this game so its best if they are stationary)

2. Place 3 remote explosives on the tank ---- not an easy task. Those three won't be enough to kill the tank on their own.

3. Switch to Plasma Cannon and give him one round right up the ar$e. He will then run away - but wait! He's got remotes on him.

4. Switch back to remotes and detonate him - but you have to be quick before any regen can start.

This method kills any tank in the game. It's hard to pull off -- typically only doable with a speed and stealth tanked scout. But for every tank you kill you'll get at least 350WP

This sounds great in theory but less so in practice. Why? A flux is far better in most situations.

The PLC projectile is too slow, meaning hitting the weak spot against anything but a stationary tank impossible.

It does ok against a Maddy since the flux only damages shields, not the 3 remotes would have probably killed it anyways.

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LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1874	Posted - 2014.04.19 11:47:00 - [1] - Quote I decided to finally try out the PLC and bought 30 Federation Plasma Cannons with some leftover LP and fit them to this setup: Scout g/1 Series -Complex Shield Extender -Complex Precision Enhancer -Complex Profile Dampener -Advanced Range Amplifier -Basic Armor Plates -Federation Plasma Cannon -MagSec SMG -Flux Grenades -STD Cloaking Device -Compact Nanohives I played a total of five Domination matches just to see how they would perform, and these were my scores. Game 1 - 0 kills, 2 assists, 3 deaths Game 2 - 3 kills, 1 death Game 3 - 0 kills, 2 deaths Game 4 - 0 kills, 1 assist, 5 deaths Game 5 - 13 kills, 2 assists, 4 deaths The first game served as my introduction to the weapon. I familiarized myself with PLC's projectile flight time, reload speed, arch, etc. My two assists came by accident as I was trying to spam shots into groups of reds near the objective. The second game was slightly better. Although my idea to use the PLC like an MD was not effective, I did score a kill off a red who was hacking a supply depot and off of two others who were climbing up a ladder. The third and fourth games were my attempts at using the PLC for AV. Needless to say, I didn't do too well. A direct shot from my PLC was only enough to take out a Soma's shields, and by the time I had the second round loaded, the tank would be gone. I accomplished nothing in these matches. A little irritated after playing my fourth game, I looked back at my second game and analyzed the method to which I had attained those three kills. One target was stationary and two others were within 5m of my character. I then took this knowledge and proceeded to send mercs flying in the fifth game. So, what did I learn? I learned that the PLC is a pretty crap tier weapon. Its projectile/round flight time is too slow. Its reloading speed is too slow. Its splash damage is too low. Its splash radius is too low. The only redeeming quality it has is its direct damage against infantry, but even then, direct hits are hard to come by unless your target is stationary, within 10 to 15 meters of your character, or running directly in front of you. It's a decent troll weapon, I'll give it that, but I'd probably get better results if I were to use an SG or Breach MD in the same way I used the PLC.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 901	Posted - 2014.04.19 12:24:00 - [2] - Quote Yes it's a pretty bad weapon but I can sometimes do still with it. I can see the potential if the few drawbacks were tweaked. Thing absolutely obliterates shields, even if you just hit with splash you'll tear off most shields and then some. Completely easy to mop up with an SMG, Magsec, (Flaylock if you're brave.) Is it better than the shotgun? It has more range than the shotgun, so that initial shot can come from 3-5 times further. You have to rely on the sidearm which is very similar to a shotgun if they are outside your range. But ROF is like 15-25 on the PLC where the shotty has about 4x that. Better than a MD? Initial shield shot yes, but passed that absolutely not. MD is fast at massacring scouts, PLC can do that but you cannot miss. PLC is a solid opener on shields if you are good with your sidearm, but as a main weapon it really blows. But man those direct hits are amazing.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2348	Posted - 2014.04.19 12:31:00 - [3] - Quote Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. HTFU Gë£ Live with CCP´s mistakes.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1874	Posted - 2014.04.19 14:29:00 - [4] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. Tried it. Tanks will zoom away by the time your second shot is ready.
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 331	Posted - 2014.04.19 14:37:00 - [5] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. Tried it. Tanks will zoom away by the time your second shot is ready. Double plc on a gal commando. Nothing more than polishing a turd but you can do 2 shots in quick succession and you get the dam bonus and reload bonus, two things it desperately needs. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
AfroSunshineY Consequence R 0 N 1 N 295	Posted - 2014.04.19 14:39:00 - [6] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. Tried it. Tanks will zoom away by the time your second shot is ready. You can't use plasma cannon alone for AV, except against LAVs. A standard plasma cannon will give you 75 WP every time you hit an LAV. It will still take 3 or four shots to down an laV though, so it's not useful in that way either. In combination with a scout and remot explosives though, it is deadly. 1. Use a cloak and run up being a tank that is trying to solo or that is sniping. (for some nonsense reason, tanks are still incredibly fast in this game so its best if they are stationary) 2. Place 3 remote explosives on the tank ---- not an easy task. Those three won't be enough to kill the tank on their own. 3. Switch to Plasma Cannon and give him one round right up the ar$e. He will then run away - but wait! He's got remotes on him. 4. Switch back to remotes and detonate him - but you have to be quick before any regen can start. This method kills any tank in the game. It's hard to pull off -- typically only doable with a speed and stealth tanked scout. But for every tank you kill you'll get at least 350WP
Roofer Madness The Phoenix Federation 1018	Posted - 2014.04.19 14:43:00 - [7] - Quote This is how to AV with the PLC. Cal scout ADV Plasma Cannon SMG 3x ADV precision enhancers 2X COmplex kincats cloak remotes lai dai packed nades Approach tank cloaked. Attach remotes. Then blast with PLC to remove shields. Hit remotes as tank bugs out. Dead tank. Finish off with lai dais if need be. Passive scans of the scout mean seeing any infantry threats and dispatching them with the SMG. I spent half my ISK on gambling, alcohol and wild women. The rest I wasted.
Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 904	Posted - 2014.04.19 15:14:00 - [8] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. Tried it. Tanks will zoom away by the time your second shot is ready. You can't use plasma cannon alone for AV, except against LAVs. A standard plasma cannon will give you 75 WP every time you hit an LAV. It will still take 3 or four shots to down an laV though, so it's not useful in that way either. In combination with a scout and remot explosives though, it is deadly. 1. Use a cloak and run up being a tank that is trying to solo or that is sniping. (for some nonsense reason, tanks are still incredibly fast in this game so its best if they are stationary) 2. Place 3 remote explosives on the tank ---- not an easy task. Those three won't be enough to kill the tank on their own. 3. Switch to Plasma Cannon and give him one round right up the ar$e. He will then run away - but wait! He's got remotes on him. 4. Switch back to remotes and detonate him - but you have to be quick before any regen can start. This method kills any tank in the game. It's hard to pull off -- typically only doable with a speed and stealth tanked scout. But for every tank you kill you'll get at least 350WP This sounds great in theory but less so in practice. Why? A flux is far better in most situations. The PLC projectile is too slow, meaning hitting the weak spot against anything but a stationary tank impossible. It does ok against a Maddy since the flux only damages shields, not the 3 remotes would have probably killed it anyways.
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 572	Posted - 2014.04.19 15:17:00 - [9] - Quote The trick is to accept the fact it's bad, then proceed to do well with it and bask in the glory of your kills "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1329	Posted - 2014.04.19 15:27:00 - [10] - Quote Galvan Nized wrote: AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: Spectral Clone wrote: Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. Tried it. Tanks will zoom away by the time your second shot is ready. You can't use plasma cannon alone for AV, except against LAVs. A standard plasma cannon will give you 75 WP every time you hit an LAV. It will still take 3 or four shots to down an laV though, so it's not useful in that way either. In combination with a scout and remot explosives though, it is deadly. 1. Use a cloak and run up being a tank that is trying to solo or that is sniping. (for some nonsense reason, tanks are still incredibly fast in this game so its best if they are stationary) 2. Place 3 remote explosives on the tank ---- not an easy task. Those three won't be enough to kill the tank on their own. 3. Switch to Plasma Cannon and give him one round right up the ar$e. He will then run away - but wait! He's got remotes on him. 4. Switch back to remotes and detonate him - but you have to be quick before any regen can start. This method kills any tank in the game. It's hard to pull off -- typically only doable with a speed and stealth tanked scout. But for every tank you kill you'll get at least 350WP This sounds great in theory but less so in practice. Why? A flux is far better in most situations. The PLC projectile is too slow, meaning hitting the weak spot against anything but a stationary tank impossible. It does ok against a Maddy since the flux only damages shields, not the 3 remotes would have probably killed it anyways. beside that, it only works against bad drivers or someone overextending. no good driver will sit in the same spot for too long to let anyone place remotes on them.

LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1875	Posted - 2014.04.19 22:51:00 - [11] - Quote Jackof All-Trades wrote: The trick is to accept the fact it's bad, then proceed to do well with it and bask in the glory of your kills Oh believe me, I accept that its bad. However... it's actually pretty fun to use. I'm thinking about skilling into them with the SP from this event.
Jackof All-Trades The Black Renaissance 575	Posted - 2014.04.20 01:37:00 - [12] - Quote LT SHANKS wrote: Jackof All-Trades wrote: The trick is to accept the fact it's bad, then proceed to do well with it and bask in the glory of your kills Oh believe me, I accept that its bad. However... it's actually pretty fun to use. I'm thinking about skilling into them with the SP from this event. it's my favourite weapon "Pulvis et umbra sums." We are but dust and shadow GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace \ Omni-Specialist / Focus: Gallente
Kigurosaka Laaksonen DUST University Ivy League 764	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:22:00 - [13] - Quote My first shot with a PLC I was just test firing it to see what it was like. The shot arced up into the air, came down some 90m away. I heard a gong sound, and saw +60 Headshot Kill flash on my screen. The shot had landed on a redberry's head. I never knew the redberry was there. He never knew what hit him. After that I immediately went to a supply depot and never used a PLC again. I knew then that the PLC had seen it's finest moment for all time, and that to continue using it would just take me further from that glory that I could never again hope to duplicate. In short, the PLC, for that single shot, was the best weapon DUST had ever seen. But seriously, if you're set on giving the PLC more of a run, consider the GalCom for its bonus to Hyrbid - Plasma weapons. This is a wildly off base guess with no foundation in experience, but it seems that a Commando gk.0 with damage mods could kill light sutis and maybe even medium suits just by the splash damage. Anyone feel free to correct me cause I don't know. DUST 514 Recruit Code - https://dust514.com/recruit/zluCyb/ EVE Buddy Invite - Too damn long. Ask me for it.
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 140	Posted - 2014.04.20 03:07:00 - [14] - Quote AfroSunshineY Consequence wrote: LT SHANKS wrote: [quote=Spectral Clone]Uncloak and shoot tanks in the ass with it. This method kills any tank in the game. It's hard to pull off -- typically only doable with a speed and stealth tanked scout. But for every tank you kill you'll get at least 350WP Tried it (identical in every step) on a Soma with Railgun, and I get: 75+ Damage 75+ Damage What did I do wrong?
THE-PIMP-NAMED-SLICKBACK Intrepidus XI EoN. 41	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:35:00 - [15] - Quote The more you use it the easier it gets, especially when you figure out that heavies generally walk in a single direction. Dez gunz ah blazin~


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