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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:27:00 -
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The cloak+shotgun combo is OP and I apologize for trying to defend it in the past.
The cloak by itself is not OP however. |
wripple
TeamPlayers
Dirt Nap Squad.
153
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:30:00 -
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SSSSHHHH, we're not supposed to let them know that |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
1228
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:42:00 -
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Its because you run gallenette
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1399
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:43:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Its because you run gallenette
What is |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:47:00 -
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That you think SG + cloak is OP
Try it on a minmatar with under 300 HP and with aim assist off, 1 out of 8 shots lands and constant sprint bugs.
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.04.19 08:53:00 -
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If cloaky shotty is OP then surely my PLC is OP for sneaking behind their backs and OHK a commando. I do agree to my old statements that shotty cloaks are only OP because we can't see them on some lighting levels of some maps.
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noob cavman
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.19 09:50:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:If cloaky shotty is OP then surely my PLC is OP for sneaking behind their backs and OHK a commando. I do agree to my old statements that shotty cloaks are only OP because we can't see them on some lighting levels of some maps.
Also that insta swap to the shotgun
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:01:00 -
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The cloak standalone is not OP
The Shotgun standalone is not OP
but the cloak does make the Shotgun OP.
adding in s 700 EHP dampened scout doesn't help either.
we will forgive dex, on then proviso you don't now attempt to nerf scouts into the ground, be smart and play nice.
Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work.
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Jebus McKing
Sinister Souls
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:08:00 -
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What is making scouts seem OP is that they get so much good stuff all at once.
- They get wallhack-like passive scans with a huge range.
- They themselves are nearly impossible to pick up on scans. (If they know what they are doing.)
- They get a cloak.
- They can shoot before fully decloaked.
- They have the smallest hitbox.
- They have the highest strafe speed.
- Aiming seems to be affected as well, at least I can aim better with a scout than with a medium suit.
- They can buff their sprint speed to insane amounts.
- And on top they can switch to a brick tanked fitting if they like to, even though I would not recommend that because I feel a brick tanked scout performs worse than a proper scout.
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Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
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Posted - 2014.04.19 11:43:00 -
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Assaults are currently underpowered.
That makes high-alpha and even high-burst-damage weapons look OP without having to actually be OP.
Cloak with Shotgun effectively reduces the risk part of the risk/reward balance on Shotguns by making it easier to get close-ish, while having very little impact once you're in mid-range (a little past where SMGs are effective, but still inside Gal AR range) on most maps. Worst-case scenario is that you're moderately difficult to see until you're just inside the SMG's optimal, but you're still outside Shotgun range at that point, and should still be vulnerable enough to take a lot of damage even if you're lucky enough to get in and take your shot.
If you try arguing on situations where the victim was distracted, then you're arguing that 2 players shouldn't have an advantage in a 2 vs. 1 confrontation, so don't do that. Teamwork is meant to beat lone-wolfing. |
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