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Buster Friently wrote:

KILLER EI ITE16 wrote:

We need to get new players to stay that should should be #1 on the list

We need to up the skills points players start out with(Just a suggestion i say 1.5 mil sp's)

We have to change pub matches so people stop getting protostomped EVERY game and add PVE(Allows for people to start working together and build up their isk and Skill points to get ready for Pubs)

I've been playing this game since beta, and I'm fed up with playing the SAME game modes over and over again. I'm fed up with all these people protostomping EVERY match because they have MILLIONS of isk and ruining the game for everyone else.(They are preventing new players from staying because all their doing is showing them what their going to be dealing with for the entire time they play dust).

PC is probably at its worst right now I would prefer to just have it removed until it's actually just one sided. I wish they Never removed the corp battlles from chromosome.

So I would rather have all this or at least PVE implemented before we get more weapons or vehicles. (Maps would also be nice)

But since probable 0 Devs are gonna read this probably nothing will change and the game will still have the same probably less players by 2.0.

Upping skill points will not retain new players. This is a common fallacy around here.

What will retain new players? PVE.

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KILLER EI ITE16 Inner.Hell 14	Posted - 2014.04.18 19:05:00 - [1] - Quote We need to get new players to stay that should should be #1 on the list We need to up the skills points players start out with(Just a suggestion i say 1.5 mil sp's) We have to change pub matches so people stop getting protostomped EVERY game and add PVE(Allows for people to start working together and build up their isk and Skill points to get ready for Pubs) I've been playing this game since beta, and I'm fed up with playing the SAME game modes over and over again. I'm fed up with all these people protostomping EVERY match because they have MILLIONS of isk and ruining the game for everyone else.(They are preventing new players from staying because all their doing is showing them what their going to be dealing with for the entire time they play dust). PC is probably at its worst right now I would prefer to just have it removed until it's actually just one sided. I wish they Never removed the corp battlles from chromosome. So I would rather have all this or at least PVE implemented before we get more weapons or vehicles. (Maps would also be nice) But since probable 0 Devs are gonna read this probably nothing will change and the game will still have the same probably less players by 2.0.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 273	Posted - 2014.04.18 19:12:00 - [2] - Quote Yes Yes and Yes It might be hard to do but I would like to see the battle academy actually become an academy, players could check in to run squad leader for training missions. Maybe get bit of isk and SP for the trouble on a sliding scale at the end, have the noobs rank the trainer from 1-10 at the end and higher rank gets more isk/sp. Welcome to you're "DOOM"
Kilo Shells G.L.O.R.Y RISE of LEGION 44	Posted - 2014.04.18 19:48:00 - [3] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: Yes Yes and Yes It might be hard to do but I would like to see the battle academy actually become an academy, players could check in to run squad leader for training missions. Maybe get bit of isk and SP for the trouble on a sliding scale at the end, have the noobs rank the trainer from 1-10 at the end and higher rank gets more isk/sp. A slider would work great if multiple things were judged, as opposed to just telling someone they are generally (completely) bad or good. Like: Logistics:---- :04 Assault :----------:10 Heavy :------- :07 Scout :-- :02 Pretty proud of that:) ^ Lots could be tested then shown True Caldari Assault forget to tell you, I left some remotes on your tank....
KILLER EI ITE16 Inner.Hell 18	Posted - 2014.04.18 20:21:00 - [4] - Quote We need to increase the time the players stay in the academy and we need need to increase the player base before we can add a tier/meta based games, and I think PVE would help with that. And with all these ~~~~~I think they will find a way to break the tier/meta based games just like they did to PC (talking about the players)
Buster Friently Rosen Association 2170	Posted - 2014.04.18 21:04:00 - [5] - Quote KILLER EI ITE16 wrote: We need to get new players to stay that should should be #1 on the list We need to up the skills points players start out with(Just a suggestion i say 1.5 mil sp's) We have to change pub matches so people stop getting protostomped EVERY game and add PVE(Allows for people to start working together and build up their isk and Skill points to get ready for Pubs) I've been playing this game since beta, and I'm fed up with playing the SAME game modes over and over again. I'm fed up with all these people protostomping EVERY match because they have MILLIONS of isk and ruining the game for everyone else.(They are preventing new players from staying because all their doing is showing them what their going to be dealing with for the entire time they play dust). PC is probably at its worst right now I would prefer to just have it removed until it's actually just one sided. I wish they Never removed the corp battlles from chromosome. So I would rather have all this or at least PVE implemented before we get more weapons or vehicles. (Maps would also be nice) But since probable 0 Devs are gonna read this probably nothing will change and the game will still have the same probably less players by 2.0. Upping skill points will not retain new players. This is a common fallacy around here. What will retain new players? PVE.
Dunce Masterson Savage Bullet 86	Posted - 2014.04.18 22:08:00 - [6] - Quote Buster Friently wrote: KILLER EI ITE16 wrote: We need to get new players to stay that should should be #1 on the list We need to up the skills points players start out with(Just a suggestion i say 1.5 mil sp's) We have to change pub matches so people stop getting protostomped EVERY game and add PVE(Allows for people to start working together and build up their isk and Skill points to get ready for Pubs) I've been playing this game since beta, and I'm fed up with playing the SAME game modes over and over again. I'm fed up with all these people protostomping EVERY match because they have MILLIONS of isk and ruining the game for everyone else.(They are preventing new players from staying because all their doing is showing them what their going to be dealing with for the entire time they play dust). PC is probably at its worst right now I would prefer to just have it removed until it's actually just one sided. I wish they Never removed the corp battlles from chromosome. So I would rather have all this or at least PVE implemented before we get more weapons or vehicles. (Maps would also be nice) But since probable 0 Devs are gonna read this probably nothing will change and the game will still have the same probably less players by 2.0. Upping skill points will not retain new players. This is a common fallacy around here. What will retain new players? PVE. your right reducing the number of skills will like the gunnery skill tree in eve online you want to use a prototype weapon like the Prototype rail rifle you have to qualify for rail specialization ect. also reducing the base cost of the skill system to 5,000 will also help. Edit: PVE! PVE! PVE! PVE! PVE! PVE! I don't even know why I bother.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 273	Posted - 2014.04.18 22:51:00 - [7] - Quote Kilo Shells wrote: Cyzad4 wrote: Yes Yes and Yes It might be hard to do but I would like to see the battle academy actually become an academy, players could check in to run squad leader for training missions. Maybe get bit of isk and SP for the trouble on a sliding scale at the end, have the noobs rank the trainer from 1-10 at the end and higher rank gets more isk/sp. A slider would work great if multiple things were judged, as opposed to just telling someone they are generally (completely) bad or good. Like: Logistics:---- :04 Assault :----------:10 Heavy :------- :07 Scout :-- :02 Pretty proud of that:) ^ Lots could be tested then shown Something like that might work. I was thinking running specific classes like, Logi 101, Everyone spawns to designated training grounds in in a basic logi suit w hives, injector, repper then the trainer runs them through what's what. Infiltration Basics: start w a scout suit, SG, cloak and uplinks, trainer can explain how to the combo of cover and cloak and make the recruits make it from one end of a given area to the other without getting spotted by drones and then drop an uplink. Welcome to you're "DOOM"
Odigos Ellinas Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 86	Posted - 2014.04.19 01:50:00 - [8] - Quote A nice thing would be a help chat channel for new players like in Eve. Is Dust University still out there doing what Eve university is doing for Eve pilots ??? Did you support them ??? If not why don't you start this again and actually help new players? PVE is a great idea but i think it will be boring and not attract new players to stay. Gear restriction has no place in eve universe. The economy is doing that and the economy has to be fixed asap.
Finn Colman Immortal Guides 4	Posted - 2014.04.19 02:45:00 - [9] - Quote Odigos Ellinas wrote: A nice thing would be a help chat channel for new players like in Eve. Is Dust University still out there doing what Eve university is doing for Eve pilots ??? Did you support them ??? If not why don't you start this again and actually help new players? PVE is a great idea but i think it will be boring and not attract new players to stay. Gear restriction has no place in eve universe. The economy is doing that and the economy has to be fixed asap. Well, there is the Learning Coalition chat channel, that all players are welcome to join. All they need to do is join the channel and ask for some help. Most of the time someone will teach a newberry about what they ask about. It's pretty good for getting the basics, but if they need more specialized help they need to find a specialized training corp (The Learning Coalition does include some of these). I've played since some point in the open beta (I don't know what build it was), and I only recently started to check out the community. It really does improve the DUST experience to see what the community has to offer, as well as to squad up. Most newberries don't know that, I sure as heck didn't. I don't care how many times I burn 'cause a swarm threw me sideways, I'm learning to fly this dropship.
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 94	Posted - 2014.04.19 03:03:00 - [10] - Quote You're obviously a care bear who didn't play EvE. Although I like PVE, I have no problem against proto bears. A milita player can take down one, either learn the EVE ways like everyone else, or go back to CoD Recruiter link here: https://dust514.com/recruit/FepTs1/ Try and steal my BPOs. I dare ya. AMARRIAN4LYFE

Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 275	Posted - 2014.04.19 11:22:00 - [11] - Quote tander09 wrote: You're obviously a care bear who didn't play EvE. Although I like PVE, I have no problem against proto bears. A milita player can take down one, either learn the EVE ways like everyone else, or go back to CoD HTFU right? Because that's been working great so far. Welcome to you're "DOOM"
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1220	Posted - 2014.04.19 11:50:00 - [12] - Quote Cyzad4 wrote: tander09 wrote: You're obviously a care bear who didn't play EvE. Although I like PVE, I have no problem against proto bears. A milita player can take down one, either learn the EVE ways like everyone else, or go back to CoD HTFU right? Because that's been working great so far. Hose The F-ing Users, is that what that means? Besides, everybody knows that EVE players are the best. Right? I mean, click and point in Spaaace. What's not to like? Spreadsheets with a space ship for a UI for one, but that's just me being picky. I do love the Pod Peeps though. Gankers, scammers and thieves one and all. Funny, they want us to trust them and do it the EVE way. Well, EVE ain't F2P. Is it? Welcome to Dust -> This is not EVE Pod Peeps. And so it goes.
a brackers Vanguardian Remnant 25	Posted - 2014.04.19 13:24:00 - [13] - Quote I like the idea of having vets go into academy as trainers. I suggest having it so any new player when they start an academy match gets automatically put in a squad at the start and kicked at the end. Normal players with mics are the leaders and they choose this from an new option on battle finder. The squad leader should not De able to call in their standard fits, they operate a drone with unlimited hp and no weapons, which can fly up to get a birds eye view of the battlefield. This done has an automatic squad defend doughnut around it and the squad leader can also place secondary attack/capture/defend etc orders as well as the permanent defend order. Payout at the end of the match follows the same function of wp as in public for the squad leader (wp only comes from squad orders), times by a multiplier. This is decided by a combination of all time and single match ratings (at the end of match everyone in squad gets a slider in victory/defeat box, where they rate the squad leader. If the all time rating is below 0.5 they are not allowed to lead in academy again. However every week approx 5 or to high votes are automatically added so people can get a second chance. However if they are again below 0.5 they get no chance and no votes added. academy should also be increased to at least 25000wp Proto dropship pilot
X7 lion SWAMPERIUM 154	Posted - 2014.04.19 15:39:00 - [14] - Quote ill stop proto stomping pubs when i get a real game mode not just skrmish + / - features Immortality will not protect you from me. I am death incarnate, you will die.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 171	Posted - 2014.04.19 16:34:00 - [15] - Quote Yes to PVE. And what do people mean by Protostomp? My Pro Scout has less HP than militia suits. My Logi keeps my sq alive. Everything else I can deal with, but dont lump all the suits together. From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men.- 501st Headstrong.
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3077	Posted - 2014.04.19 16:35:00 - [16] - Quote I like the idea of the academy being a room with 1 uplink with infinite spawns. The match starts when a whistle blows and the newbs spawn on the uplink which is instant spawns while simultaneously getting spawn camped by proto bears. Any ideas on improving this idea are valued, maybe we could have 24 a side for this. Let me know. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Cyzad4 Blackfish Corp. 280	Posted - 2014.04.19 16:41:00 - [17] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: I like the idea of the academy being a room with 1 uplink with infinite spawns. The match starts when a whistle blows and the newbs spawn on the uplink which is instant spawns while simultaneously getting spawn camped by proto bears. Any ideas on improving this idea are valued, maybe we could have 24 a side for this. Let me know. lol I think that might need a bit of refining but it's a good start Welcome to you're "DOOM"
deepfried salad gilliam Sanguine Knights 657	Posted - 2014.04.19 18:21:00 - [18] - Quote id prefer that you just increase the amount of wp required to exit the academy like 5000 wp and the rest of the game modes become available 10000 and acadamy is removed It'll help define roles, i promise:)
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1073	Posted - 2014.04.19 18:25:00 - [19] - Quote But I want my Amarr heavy weapon ._. "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro t¢«
KalOfTheRathi Nec Tributis 1222	Posted - 2014.04.19 23:35:00 - [20] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Any ideas on improving this idea are valued, maybe we could have 24 a side for this. Let me know. 24v24 on UnReal Engine 3.5? You have a great sense of humor or a tragic view of reality. Your pick. Technical solutions: Remove all textures, put everyone on a flat grey surface with a blue sky box. The sky box can have pretty colors but nothing that requires more than two textures. Also, all the Mercs must use the same suit. At least the depiction of the suit is identical versus showing a Heavy or a Scout. So ... Caldari Assault suits for all. Which would be ironic because CCP/Shanghai has proven their dislike of them many times. Also all guns shoot invisible bullets. Much like swarms do unless you are exactly the correct angle to see the missile tracks. Otherwise they just hit the target with no actual clue as to where they came from. Very confusing to vets. No vehicles would solve that problem, no sense in confusing the New Belles. Also, remove AV. Okay, that might make it more likely. Although whether it would be possible would best be left to CCP/Shanghai. And, hopefully, they are really busy fixing bugs. Hah! Everybody knows they are getting ready for fan fest. Welcome to Dust New Belles, because their heads ring when you whack 'em. And so it goes.



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