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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.04.18 18:46:00 -
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I just wanted to share this story because it made me smile.
I was in a Dom late last night. I was sniping from a tower and felt myself falling asleep at the wheel, so to speak, so I headed back to our MCC to camp until the match ended (yes, lame, but as I said, it was my last match and my eyelids wouldn't stay open--this is not a usual tactic for me).
On my way, I notice all sorts of tanks, and decide, screw it--I'll switch to a BPO fit and grab a militia tank to lose before I call it a night. I don't normally drive tanks, but this experience is making me want to spend more time on the treads.
It worked out better than I expected. I was in a Sica with:
2 x Enhanced Heavy Shield Extender
1 x Enhanced 120mm Plate
1 x Complex PG Upgrade
1 x Militia 80GJ Railgun
For the record, with my current skills, this thing clocks roughly 7600 EHP, about 4600+ shields/2900+ armor.
Up to that point, I had maybe 200 WP, all from DUs and team resupplies. Our MCC had about 60% armor left, their MCC had about 15% shields remaining. Anyway, I roll in and take out a Soma tread-to-tread, no problem. I get three infantry kill assists, then lose my ability to maneuver and get taken out by a swarmer and a proto FG.
I respawn, grab another tank, and roll toward the enemy's redline. They bring in another Soma, so I shoot at it a couple times and back track, to lure it in. It rolls up and tries to go tread-to-tread again, to the same end--it pops! This was not before eliminating my shields, as they were clearly the better drive, outmaneuvering me until I made some room between us. Unfortunately, their AV team was still rolling strong and they took me out, but I didn't mind, and I definitely wasn't dozing off anymore.
Even though we lost, it was within a hair, and I ended the match with 1300 WP!!! WTF--1100 WP in less than 5 minutes?!? With an Omega booster, I cleared 25k SP in that match alone--a record for me to be sure. Not only that, my KDR was 2/2, so I broke even there, and ended up only 60k ISK in the hole, after covering the cost of my lost tanks. Not optimal, but I am certain I cost my enemy much, much more ISK than that, so I'll give it a pass. Next time, I plan to go positive across the board! 
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:04:00 -
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noobsniper the 2nd wrote:Its not that impressive bud sorry to say
Not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I assure you, I was not trying to impress anyone. I'm merely pointing out how easy it is to pick up a tank and gain a **** ton of WP, even if you're 1) not a very good tanker and 2) not particularly rich.
If you couldn't tell from my original post, I'm am not (nor do I have delusions about being) a l33t player, but your reproach was useful nonetheless.  I hate to be a d!ck, but you started it: get gud (at grammar).
Soldier Sorajord wrote:One does not simply build a tank with only extenders.
Certainly one does, especially if one does not give two sh!ts about tanking/ers. I consider this a, "F*ck your couch, Eddy Murphy tank, stupid red dot", fit.
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.04.18 20:16:00 -
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Awesome Pantaloons wrote:Not a bad story, but just as a tip, there is no viable reason to brick tank tanks. You either need to speed tank or rep tank or, if you're good, you can still tank with hardeners. Massive eHP on tanks only provides a false sense of security. Only dropships can get away with bricking. Now, if you really want to have fun, use a similar set up but with one or two railgun damage amplifiers.  So much QQ
I hear what you're saying, but massive EHP is viable because it takes all the thinking out of the equation. I roll up, point my boomstick, and let loose. With my current skills, this is more survivable for me than reps. I don't care if I lose the tank or a die, hence the BPO suit and Sica. This setup is for quickly and dirtily dealing with actual tankers. So, sacrifing extra shields for extra pow, especially if I'm up against more than one tank, certainly would not work out as well for me as uber EHP--again, I am not a tanker, much less a good one. I was a tired dude that realized, in the haze of nodding off, that I can generate a butt-ton of WP in a way that had not occurred to me before, while helping my team to boot.
My post was not meant to be about making chess out of tank warfare--I am not good enough to try that!
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:12:00 -
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Thanks for all the advice and fits, folks! Much appreciated.
I hadn't done the math, but I was dubious about hardeners, since they're active and have rather long cool downs, longer than it would take my shields to restore, anyway. In other words, hardeners seem to me to be nothing more than a temporary EHP boost, since a 40% reduction to shield damage equates to more EHP.
Just as a test case, let's assume the enemy is doing 100 damage/shot after bonuses/penalties:
Enhanced Hardener: 2650 shields / (100 damage *.60 [ie 40% bonus]) = 44.17 hits
Enhanced Extenders: 4664 shields / 100 damage = 46.64 hits
% difference: 5.3; ie, the extenders grant over 5% EHP
A significant difference, and the hardener has a cooldown of 80 seconds, while shields restore at a rate of 168/s after a 4 or 10 second, taking only 31.76 to 37.76 seconds to restore completely. Looked at like this, hardeners are actually much, much less effective. Assuming you can GTFO, you can GTFI again much sooner.
I do really like the idea of a rep, so I don't have to recall the damn thing if I don't want to lose it, but again, I feel like my current skill level (both SP and gameplay) is inadequate. I haven't run the numbers, but I'd be interested to see how a basic heavy rep (or two) stands up against a proto blaster, just to the sense of a worst case scenario.
Jihad tanks FTW!
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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CRNWLLC
Screwy Rabbit ULC
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Posted - 2014.04.19 00:26:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:>1300 wp's >being proud 2000 wp's in an empty game, beat that
Not so much proud as astounded that in less than 5 minutes, I could pick up 1100 WP with a militia tank, and I am by no means a tanker.
My other dropsuit is a Python.
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