DUST Search - PC mechanics idea. ill put this here because War Room>everything ...

Wolfica wrote:

please, throw all flaws that could be game breaking at me. I have already added and changed many things from my original post. I will update as ideas come in. having the attacker choose time of battle will encourage corps to have a more diverse community to protect there districts at all timers. if not it will cause conflict and district flips.

this concept is also based off of all of new eden is opened up to PC, not just MH, and what will stop a group from holding it all is logistics. the corps in sov would most likely hire mercs to take districts for them on the ground in there systems, and pilot a war barge for them. low sec it would be easier for smaller corps to get help from pilots due to not invading space. the only way to take 100% would be to send my version of NPC ground attacks, because realistically getting a WB to some planets is impossible. and if all planets in NE open up that's hundreds of thousands of districts. that would cost trillions of isk even with what ever DNS can farm in the time that this would be implemented we would be way short. so many districts would be unclaimed for some time, allowing smaller corps to join PC

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Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 613	Posted - 2014.04.18 17:09:00 - [1] - Quote PC concept idea the point of this is to remove the NPC role as much as possible from PC and creating a true link between EVE and dust Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4878	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:20:00 - [2] - Quote One thing I don't understand is why cargo hubs produce clones on top of being the largest pool for defense and attack. There's very little incentive to use a variety of infrastructure. Personally I think infrastructures such as cargo hubs should be extremely low clone production (if any at all) and used for cargo like the name suggests. This would make people use another infrastructure that produces clones quickly and move them to cargo hubs for storage. This way if you were to wage war you could attack a corps main production districts to cut off their reinforcements rather than having to attack a cargo hub every time. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 613	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:37:00 - [3] - Quote ok, changed it so that it would take 10 days to fill a hub. the 2,500 extra clones arnt used during the defense of a district, they are extra so say you have another district that was attacked is low on clones you can use them to re fill the district. or you can set a district to move excess clones to the Hub for storage. Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 3453	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:58:00 - [4] - Quote I just don't like the long timers, everything else looks pretty awesome. Level 3 Forum Warrior
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 614	Posted - 2014.04.18 19:10:00 - [5] - Quote I added a ground attack mode that would change depending on the distance between the districts, so attacks could start shortly after Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2669	Posted - 2014.04.18 22:48:00 - [6] - Quote I could release an copy of the Survey results with Names stripped if you all are interested... How to Leave PC
Viktor Hadah Jr Critical-Impact 3484	Posted - 2014.04.18 22:53:00 - [7] - Quote War Room>everything else lol... i assume we are not talking about anything competitive because if we are it's more like. Everything else>War room Sir Hadah for CPM
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4278	Posted - 2014.04.18 23:44:00 - [8] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: War Room>everything else lol... i assume we are not talking about anything competitive because if we are it's more like. Everything else>War room GD discussions about game mechanics are mostly trash. Discussions about game mechanics are far better here, with people who actually have experience on the competitive side. War Room isn't much better than GD for anything else though. Most of this area is flaming each other and QQ Kane threads. I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 576	Posted - 2014.04.19 00:32:00 - [9] - Quote Hm... this looks very interesting and after reading everything, it seems good at glance. I will think a bit when I have free time to see what could cause problems then I'll post it. That way if CCP actually decides to use stuff from this idea, then they could avoid future problems. I suggest everyone does the same, try to find ways to break Wolfica's PC 2.0 plan. Find any problems in it and post them so we can all work on this together. It is a beta PC plan, so test it out in theory and see what can cause future problems. For example 1. If the attacker can choose what time to actually have the fight, it could cause the similar problem we have now with the American/Asian time difference. For example, Nyain San can attack an American corp when it is Japanese prime time which would make it a lot harder for the American corp to organize players. Or the American corp attacks Nyain San during American times and makes it hard for them to defend on American timers. This problem unfortunately might always exist in PC in some way because dealing with the whole time issue is very difficult and has been around forever. 2. This seems good but of course corps in DNS will still be on top and reap greater rewards while others don't. If this were to happen, then more than isk is available which will get me interested in PC (finally). But DNS might still hold Molden Heath unless we decide to fight each other again for fun. In my opinion, a 50C idea I have which I just came up with so it is not well thought through is that we wipe Molden Heath. It would be awesome for more land to open up or as Snuggly wuggly said "open up more planets in Molden Heath" but we will also need to wipe PC and make it start all over again. To prevent corps with a lot of money from retaking everything when PC reopens, I say we have a 1-2 district per day mechanic. In other words, you can only get 1-2 unoccupied districts per day for the first [insert short time frame] after PC reopens, then it becomes a free for all after that time frame. I just came up with this as I typed it so it probably has some huge flaws so feel free to post about it so I can edit my idea. CCP is having problems dealing with the PC mechanic so I say we should at least work together to come up with an idea as to how we believe PC should work in the future. Hopefully CCP reads these posts and takes into consideration what is being said here. Please no flaming or trolling for once. I know this is the war room but can we at least be serious about this thread? holds out hand and a swarm of angry mutated salmon cornflakes appear * Attack my children attack!
Patrick57 7073	Posted - 2014.04.19 01:08:00 - [10] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: can we at least be serious about this thread? nope Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 620	Posted - 2014.04.19 01:13:00 - [11] - Quote please, throw all flaws that could be game breaking at me. I have already added and changed many things from my original post. I will update as ideas come in. having the attacker choose time of battle will encourage corps to have a more diverse community to protect there districts at all timers. if not it will cause conflict and district flips. this concept is also based off of all of new eden is opened up to PC, not just MH, and what will stop a group from holding it all is logistics. the corps in sov would most likely hire mercs to take districts for them on the ground in there systems, and pilot a war barge for them. low sec it would be easier for smaller corps to get help from pilots due to not invading space. the only way to take 100% would be to send my version of NPC ground attacks, because realistically getting a WB to some planets is impossible. and if all planets in NE open up that's hundreds of thousands of districts. that would cost trillions of isk even with what ever DNS can farm in the time that this would be implemented we would be way short. so many districts would be unclaimed for some time, allowing smaller corps to join PC Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2670	Posted - 2014.04.19 01:46:00 - [12] - Quote Wolfica, Beers is one of the most Detail oriented people, if you want a person to talk to about details contact him but Here is what I made publicly Available Survey Ideas How to Leave PC
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 620	Posted - 2014.04.19 02:50:00 - [13] - Quote well at least people agree on one thing... bring back corp battles Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
yep derrith again Shining Flame Amarr Empire 151	Posted - 2014.04.19 02:55:00 - [14] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Wolfica, Beers is one of the most Detail oriented people, if you want a person to talk to about details contact him but Here is what I made publicly Available Survey Ideas Who the heck is number three? I've never seen that guy before.
Killar-12 OLDSPICE. Top Men. 2672	Posted - 2014.04.19 03:06:00 - [15] - Quote yep derrith again wrote: Killar-12 wrote: Wolfica, Beers is one of the most Detail oriented people, if you want a person to talk to about details contact him but Here is what I made publicly Available Survey Ideas Who the heck is number three? I've never seen that guy before. We will never know... How to Leave PC
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 626	Posted - 2014.04.19 17:28:00 - [16] - Quote bump Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Morathi III Policeman of the Federation 126	Posted - 2014.04.19 17:49:00 - [17] - Quote Wolfica wrote: well at least people agree on one thing... bring back corp battles this, for upgrading PC mechanic, i think dust need an announcement that the game will move on PS4, if they did, with the time they have before moving on now they will have to upgrade it, before they need still to improve gae mechanic and balance in my main opinion, corp battle will be the good alternative for now for casual player and lesser good corp than upgrading PC, why they will need to upgrade PC just after the announcement is simply because whenthe game move on they will get more player and more peeps interested in, my tough. Your main idea is good, currently is not a pandora box that PC need to get better.
pseudosnipre 674	Posted - 2014.04.19 18:18:00 - [18] - Quote Wolfica wrote: please, throw all flaws that could be game breaking at me. I have already added and changed many things from my original post. I will update as ideas come in. having the attacker choose time of battle will encourage corps to have a more diverse community to protect there districts at all timers. if not it will cause conflict and district flips. this concept is also based off of all of new eden is opened up to PC, not just MH, and what will stop a group from holding it all is logistics. the corps in sov would most likely hire mercs to take districts for them on the ground in there systems, and pilot a war barge for them. low sec it would be easier for smaller corps to get help from pilots due to not invading space. the only way to take 100% would be to send my version of NPC ground attacks, because realistically getting a WB to some planets is impossible. and if all planets in NE open up that's hundreds of thousands of districts. that would cost trillions of isk even with what ever DNS can farm in the time that this would be implemented we would be way short. so many districts would be unclaimed for some time, allowing smaller corps to join PC ... Or just default to drone-infested by default. Corps would need to sanitize them to capture a district. Hoping they announce AI at fanfest so corps can place sentry drones/installations to defend against 24/7 vulnerability. Today is the sort of day where the sun only comes up to humiliate you. BitterVet the turkey says GOML GOML GOML
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 632	Posted - 2014.04.20 07:58:00 - [19] - Quote here is an added idea from tonight. the removal of all passive clone gen on districts clone gen removal. PC 2.0 concept Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 633	Posted - 2014.04.23 18:01:00 - [20] - Quote bump Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
CR4SH OVERRIDE 135	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:35:00 - [21] - Quote You have my vote brah. Shhhh. it's a secret.
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 933	Posted - 2014.04.23 19:57:00 - [22] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: I could release an copy of the Survey results with Names stripped if you all are interested... That would be pretty informative. Can you post it up, Killar? "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Wolfica Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 634	Posted - 2014.04.25 00:09:00 - [23] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Killar-12 wrote: I could release an copy of the Survey results with Names stripped if you all are interested... That would be pretty informative. Can you post it up, Killar? look at the link he posted about half way down the first page Do you even PC bro.... ha I bet you don't. forum warrior lvl .6
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 944	Posted - 2014.04.25 03:46:00 - [24] - Quote Wolfica wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Killar-12 wrote: I could release an copy of the Survey results with Names stripped if you all are interested... That would be pretty informative. Can you post it up, Killar? look at the link he posted about half way down the first page Thanks! "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen

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