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Test Subject 371 wrote:

I agree. While the lesser levels have always been sluggish, I think they've gotten worse, and My Python is considerably less agile than it used to be. Combine the lack of agility with what seems to be an amplified AV impact effect ( spinning out of control when hit ) and you are kind of a sitting duck, b/c you no longer have the maneuverability to counter that effect.

An incubus is currently performing better, has greater durability ( due to a bug mentioned elsewhere in this forum regarding relative effectiveness of AV weapons and lesser impact ), and can simply play tag with Pythons to knock them out of the sky with very little risk. I just did it last night - dove into a python ( fully expecting to die myself ) - the Python was smoked instantly but IRCC it didn't even deplete all my shields. That is broken.

At the same time, it is my perception that tanks have once again turned into LAVs - their acceleration is absurd now - like it was when 1.7 came out. I had a guy earlier this week evade my wet sponge dropship simply alternating between going forward and backwards over and over again. Tanks used to take at least 2-3 seconds to get up to speed from a dead stop - not anymore.

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Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 304	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:39:00 - [1] - Quote Did they change the dropship speed of the grim/gorgon and myron/viper? Grim/Gorgon moves pretty slow compared to how it moved before which wasnt long ago..last week I think? (I'm not good with time)...which I guess makes sense cause its tanky? but why does the myron/viper move the same speed the Grim/gorgon do its suppose to be fast..right? I could be imagining all this... that is a high probability I'm also a terribad pilot so that too Only thing in my way of getting a *Templar Set* is my addiction to ADS.
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 740	Posted - 2014.04.18 11:47:00 - [2] - Quote Becuase CCP hates caldari pilots, just look at the collision damage tap for python, ista death Ram for incubus, half health gone "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Test Subject 371 Inner.Hell 0	Posted - 2014.04.18 16:02:00 - [3] - Quote I agree. While the lesser levels have always been sluggish, I think they've gotten worse, and My Python is considerably less agile than it used to be. Combine the lack of agility with what seems to be an amplified AV impact effect ( spinning out of control when hit ) and you are kind of a sitting duck, b/c you no longer have the maneuverability to counter that effect. An incubus is currently performing better, has greater durability ( due to a bug mentioned elsewhere in this forum regarding relative effectiveness of AV weapons and lesser impact ), and can simply play tag with Pythons to knock them out of the sky with very little risk. I just did it last night - dove into a python ( fully expecting to die myself ) - the Python was smoked instantly but IRCC it didn't even deplete all my shields. That is broken. At the same time, it is my perception that tanks have once again turned into LAVs - their acceleration is absurd now - like it was when 1.7 came out. I had a guy earlier this week evade my wet sponge dropship simply alternating between going forward and backwards over and over again. Tanks used to take at least 2-3 seconds to get up to speed from a dead stop - not anymore.
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 51	Posted - 2014.04.18 17:46:00 - [4] - Quote I also noticed this, my gorgon has no plates but still cant accelerate fast enough. But i use after burners to help me. You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
War Ninja Q Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:47:00 - [5] - Quote Afterburners do help acceleration, but they don't help the turning. Yaw, roll, and pitch used to be very responsive in a Python. I push my stick left, right, up or down, and the Python would respond immediately. Now there is a very noticeable lag between my actions and my controls, and the level of lag isn't even consistent between games. Some games it is tolerable, other games I barely move.
Seigfried Warheit Caught Me With My Pants Down 304	Posted - 2014.04.18 22:13:00 - [6] - Quote Test Subject 371 wrote: I agree. While the lesser levels have always been sluggish, I think they've gotten worse, and My Python is considerably less agile than it used to be. Combine the lack of agility with what seems to be an amplified AV impact effect ( spinning out of control when hit ) and you are kind of a sitting duck, b/c you no longer have the maneuverability to counter that effect. An incubus is currently performing better, has greater durability ( due to a bug mentioned elsewhere in this forum regarding relative effectiveness of AV weapons and lesser impact ), and can simply play tag with Pythons to knock them out of the sky with very little risk. I just did it last night - dove into a python ( fully expecting to die myself ) - the Python was smoked instantly but IRCC it didn't even deplete all my shields. That is broken. At the same time, it is my perception that tanks have once again turned into LAVs - their acceleration is absurd now - like it was when 1.7 came out. I had a guy earlier this week evade my wet sponge dropship simply alternating between going forward and backwards over and over again. Tanks used to take at least 2-3 seconds to get up to speed from a dead stop - not anymore. Yeah that is why I prefer the Incubus/Grim atm I used the Caldari for their speed and maneuverability but that is somewhat lacking atm even with a AB its lacking. The python is still good it lost some of the agile but still workable. On the tanks acceleration..I think its the same as when 1.7 came out cause they never changed it..they didn't say they did...if they did I missed that. Only thing in my way of getting a *Templar Set* is my addiction to ADS.
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 327	Posted - 2014.04.19 18:44:00 - [7] - Quote Blue tag please. What changes, if any, have been made to dropship mechanics. I want to say it definitely feels different. I have been flipped over by a rail hitting the side of my ship. In PC the AV is ludicrous. I just want to know the logic and changes so I can properly adapt to your ever-changing balance. After sinking sp into flying and being nerfed so much, I feel the price should be nerfed too. FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
darkiller240 K-A-O-S theory 752	Posted - 2014.04.19 18:59:00 - [8] - Quote Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Blue tag please. What changes, if any, have been made to dropship mechanics. I want to say it definitely feels different. I have been flipped over by a rail hitting the side of my ship. In PC the AV is ludicrous. I just want to know the logic and changes so I can properly adapt to your ever-changing balance. After sinking sp into flying and being nerfed so much, I feel the price should be nerfed too. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142594 Link to the Overprice discussion Also the missile installations kill me more now then FG and Rail put together, the knokback is ridiculous "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein
Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 773	Posted - 2014.04.19 19:28:00 - [9] - Quote I haven't noticed anything. Feels like business as usual. Price drops invite the nerf bat. Too many people butthurt about DSs atm. Leave the price alone. Nobody fcks monkeys AND people you idiot.You either fck monkeys, or you fck people.Theres no in between. Dave Chappelle
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 328	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:13:00 - [10] - Quote darkiller240 wrote: Varjac Theobroma Montenegro wrote: Blue tag please. What changes, if any, have been made to dropship mechanics. I want to say it definitely feels different. I have been flipped over by a rail hitting the side of my ship. In PC the AV is ludicrous. I just want to know the logic and changes so I can properly adapt to your ever-changing balance. After sinking sp into flying and being nerfed so much, I feel the price should be nerfed too. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=142594 Link to the Overprice discussion Also the missile installations kill me more now then FG and Rail put together, the knokback is ridiculous Fudge! I forgot about those demonic things! Wtf! Do they have to reach across the map? And be sooooo deep in the red line? Geezus.... FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment

Sad Heavy Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 66	Posted - 2014.04.20 02:30:00 - [11] - Quote Test Subject 371 wrote: I agree. While the lesser levels have always been sluggish, I think they've gotten worse, and My Python is considerably less agile than it used to be. Combine the lack of agility with what seems to be an amplified AV impact effect ( spinning out of control when hit ) and you are kind of a sitting duck, b/c you no longer have the maneuverability to counter that effect. An incubus is currently performing better, has greater durability ( due to a bug mentioned elsewhere in this forum regarding relative effectiveness of AV weapons and lesser impact ), and can simply play tag with Pythons to knock them out of the sky with very little risk. I just did it last night - dove into a python ( fully expecting to die myself ) - the Python was smoked instantly but IRCC it didn't even deplete all my shields. That is broken. At the same time, it is my perception that tanks have once again turned into LAVs - their acceleration is absurd now - like it was when 1.7 came out. I had a guy earlier this week evade my wet sponge dropship simply alternating between going forward and backwards over and over again. Tanks used to take at least 2-3 seconds to get up to speed from a dead stop - not anymore. I remember a derpship shooting at me around that time. You might have been shooting my alt's tank Scrubby Python Pilot, Corp Chat Troll, Elite Scrub, Caldari Loyalist
Gaurdian Satyr Glitched Connection 139	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:41:00 - [12] - Quote Ive been having a hell of a time cause i think my icubus is faster cause i get the blue speed ring faster and im having to pull up alot sooner or else i ram into something (learned this after 1.5 mill today......also im broke again....LOWER ADS PRICE GOD ******* DAMMIT) -holds arms in O- throw it in the story basket bro
Varjac Theobroma Montenegro PAND3M0N1UM Top Men. 335	Posted - 2014.04.20 05:48:00 - [13] - Quote Is there any good reason why a python got a maneuvering nerf? Didn't realize that my ability to control my ship was what was wrong with vehicle balance. FAME Click for Vehicle Support Click for Recruitment
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 23	Posted - 2014.04.20 07:26:00 - [14] - Quote Keep the price were it is if not raise it to help combat crappy ramming ships:-) try flying a python with a complex heavy shield extender that's a flying brick right there I'm not sure how shields add mass like armor and slow you down tho. Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 5708	Posted - 2014.04.20 07:28:00 - [15] - Quote Burning through the Python's Shield with my small rail turret then ramming it with my Incubus leaves me the greatest satisfaction I've ever felt. *1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole* -Title Awarded by True Adamance
Riptalis Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2014.04.20 09:39:00 - [16] - Quote Fix the collision damage on the Python! I hate it when some d bag uses a militia dropship to ram me and make me lose control. Also, what happened to the Eryx? I loved that thing, not only because of its stats but the color was beautiful. One more thing, I destroyed a Kaalakiota Recon dropship, how do you get these?
steelRatt L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 23	Posted - 2014.04.20 11:16:00 - [17] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Burning through the Python's Shield with my small rail turret then ramming it with my Incubus leaves me the greatest satisfaction I've ever felt. I guess little things please little minds. Having good sex or a hard days work gives me great satisfaction. Ramming a Ads or even a DS coz you can't be arsed to dogfight or get you av for a cheap thrill not even on the list lol Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.


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