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Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:01:00 -
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Hello,
So, not starting a balance thread here, but just some ideas that could help and would increase customization options instead of limiting them.
Assault Suits - Extra Grenade Slot, have one racial suit who can carry +1 nade in each slot on a tier system, (+1 nade to the first slot at standard, up to +2 nades each slot for proto). Or something similar. This will do two things, 1. Give Assaults a way to "find" stealthed scouts through "dynamite fishing" and provide another method of AV option, (Heavies have HMG/Forge, Scouts and Logis use RE's, give the Assaults another nade slot to work with). This increases options instead of limiting them and does a fair bit of balancing in between. I would also suggest another racial bonus for Assaults, (which race idc), to provide a bonus for headshots. This allows one Assault to be slightly more geared towards Scout Hunting, and another to be slightly more geared for heavy hunting, without being full on for either. The extra nade slot further balances AV by allowing Infantry to easily fit a small AV option, which in combination with other small AV options would destroy say a tank. A cumulative effect against AV, and at the same time making Assaults a bit better against infantry too.
EWAR Logi - Racial variant that allows for better use of EWAR gear with an emphasis on Active Scanners, (example increases range and efficiency).
Complimentary items could easily be introduced as well to benefit the extra nade slot and capacity:
Disrupter Grenade - Sticks into the ground where thrown and "pulses" in a 30 yard radius. Does not destroy gear and does no damage. De-cloaks anyone in it's pulse range. Pulses every .5 second for 5,7.5, and 10 seconds respective to tier.
Agitator Grenade - A debuff grenade that forms a "bubble" approximately 45m diameter. Anyone, (including friendlies and the nade ownder), inside the field receives an extra 30,40, and 50% damage respective of tier.
De-agitator Grenade - Exact opposite of the Agitator, offering a buff instead of a de-buff.
Graviton Grenade - 10 ft. diameter. Slows enemy infantry and vehicles caught in the blast by 50%. Last 4,6, and 8 seconds respective to tier.
Combine these together and the Assault finds a niche to excel at, while at the same time expanding the customization options rather than limiting them. Imaging the tactics available would be crazy.
Anyways, just some thoughts. Feel free to suggest your own ideas!
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Death Shadow117
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:31:00 -
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then you get hit wit 2 agitators and you recive 100% damage see how broken thatd be
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Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:33:00 -
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That would definitely be broken. I would say the effects would not stack, and a more powerful effect would override a weaker one. Same tier effects would be overridden by who has the longer timer. |
Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:34:00 -
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Obviously the numbers would be adjusted to be a bit more logical. This is more of an idea phase where exact numbers would be hashed out later. But I do appreciate you pointing out the shortcomings and possible break points as those would need to be addressed. |
Death Shadow117
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:35:00 -
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ok thats a fix
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Ander Thedas
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:42:00 -
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Your graviton grenade is currently in the works (I believe) under the name Stasis Webifier. I've been a proponent of the second grenade slot for assaults for a while. Now that they've dropped the numbers of total grenades it has paved the way of having this be a balanced buff for assaults. The headshot multiplier is a neat addition, though.
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Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:46:00 -
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Thank you for the update! I wasn't even aware. Hope it affects vehicles as well 
Anyone can feel free to post their own ideas as well!
Basically, just looking to add customization options and neat things to use, while hopefully using them to address underlying balance or at least not upset balance further. |
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:51:00 -
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Ander Thedas wrote:Your graviton grenade is currently in the works (I believe) under the name Stasis Webifier. I've been a proponent of the second grenade slot for assaults for a while. Now that they've dropped the numbers of total grenades it has paved the way of having this be a balanced buff for assaults. The headshot multiplier is a neat addition, though.
I think the headshot multiplier would provide an Assault option for snipers, while also being used to be a slight buff against heavies and those who stand still. |
Death Shadow117
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:51:00 -
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i think a sentry grenade would be cool a tiny sentry turret that you could throw
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Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.17 19:55:00 -
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Death Shadow117 wrote:i think a sentry grenade would be cool a tiny sentry turret that you could throw
Even further expand it out to heli-drones for spying or even kamikaze attacks. Lots of ways to go using mobile robots. With turrets specifically would be cool if they stuck like the RE's. I would laugh my ass off if someone stuck their turret on an enemy tank |
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ishtellian
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Posted - 2014.04.17 22:28:00 -
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Revelations 514 wrote:Death Shadow117 wrote:i think a sentry grenade would be cool a tiny sentry turret that you could throw Even further expand it out to heli-drones for spying or even kamikaze attacks. Lots of ways to go using mobile robots. With turrets specifically would be cool if they stuck like the RE's. I would laugh my ass off if someone stuck their turret on an enemy tank
Cant wait for this game to progress a year or two and see all the options for drones and whatnot. I love being Gallente.
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Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:32:00 -
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I am shamelessly self promoting |
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:44:00 -
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45m radius for agitator grenade? Take a moment to think about that...
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Revelations 514
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:18:00 -
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Numbers are just quick fillers to give the idea. But I do think it would need a bit of radius or people could easily move out of the radius, (unless it's on top of an objective). Agitators would have the greatest effect against a heavy who will take a bit to move out of the AOE.
Not to mention it would have a natural counter should someone through the buff equivalent.
That being said 45m may be a bit much, but wanted it to be able to blanket an objective or vehicle and if coordinated be able to turn the tide so to speak.
I would only really worry about a medium with these bonuses using nanohives to spread them out over a huge radius. But that can be nipped by making the duration short enough to make, "carpet bombing" them impractical. |
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