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![Lynn Beck Lynn Beck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 16:37:00 -
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Yup. I said it. We need a heavy specialization with a H slot and a L slot.
Heavy would have more racial HP than sentinels, but their offtype would be much lower, almost a scout's main HP sized.
Would move standard at a plated Amarr heavy(sprint like 3.9 or so) Regen would be lower than heavies, higher than assaults(about the 20-25 range)
Example stats: Minmatar Demolisher 600 shield 250 armor
4.3 sprint/3.01 walk
Gallente Demolisher 200 shield 800 armor
3.8 sprint/2.6 ish walk
Amar Demolisher 150 shield 900 armor
3.4 sprint/2.2 walk
Caldari Demolisher 800 shield 150 armor
3.8/2.6
Slots would be very limited, akin to Commandos- maybe limit 3 slots proto.
Skill bonuses would apply to Optimal range, and Ammo Pools
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![Death Shadow117 Death Shadow117](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
Death Shadow117
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.17 17:11:00 -
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ive already said this itd be called the juggernaut
NOVA KNIVES WTF Are Those
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![Arx Ardashir Arx Ardashir](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2014.04.17 17:26:00 -
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You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it.
Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5.
Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14.
A manu dei et tet rimon.
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![Lynn Beck Lynn Beck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
1191
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Posted - 2014.04.17 17:48:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it. Because variety, what else?
Much like my idea for a scout with a Heavy slot, has 2 slots at proto, and moves slower than a scout.(slightly)
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![Arkena Wyrnspire Arkena Wyrnspire](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.17 17:55:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it. Because variety, what else? Much like my idea for a scout with a Heavy slot, has 2 slots at proto, and moves slower than a scout.(slightly)
Cloaky scouts with HMGs good god no please no *hides*
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
EUrobro
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![Lynn Beck Lynn Beck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
1191
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Posted - 2014.04.17 17:57:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it. Because variety, what else? Much like my idea for a scout with a Heavy slot, has 2 slots at proto, and moves slower than a scout.(slightly) Cloaky scouts with HMGs good god no please no *hides* No bonus to cloaks, god no. But bonus to fitting heavy weapons.(off topic)
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![Sinboto Simmons Sinboto Simmons](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_minmatar_128.jpg)
Sinboto Simmons
Sver true blood General Tso's Alliance
5899
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Posted - 2014.04.17 18:04:00 -
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They've drove him insane, give my lynn back you bastards!
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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![Awry Barux Awry Barux](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1940
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Posted - 2014.04.17 18:06:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it. For kicks? There's not many downsides to adding it. No new art assets required since they can just recycle either sentinel or commando models. All that's needed is some new numbers. Seems balanced, if not pre-nerfed, to me- dat 2.2 walk speed and minimal slots. Really though I'd rather see some new light frames. I want a scoutmando- fewer modules, only 1 equipment slot, keep the cloaking bonus, lose some scan precision/range, increase scan profile, but gain that delicious second light weapon slot and keep the speed. Also a heavy weapon scout- I want a fragile but fast FG suit.
Nerdier than thou
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![Lynn Beck Lynn Beck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
1192
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Posted - 2014.04.17 18:32:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:They've drove him insane, give my lynn back you bastards! What gave you the idea, me nailing sanwiches to my wall, or me running 23+ kill games anti-infantry CQC forging?
Not to mention me attempting to fit a Scr on a Minja...
*glares longingly at Biscuit's Melee tanking build.*
General John Ripper is my 2nd best friend!
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![Lynn Beck Lynn Beck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
1194
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Posted - 2014.04.17 20:35:00 -
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o.e buffed twinky production to warp-kitten!
Engage the hyper Tuna!
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![Zaaeed Massani Zaaeed Massani](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.04.17 20:52:00 -
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Absolutely not.
We already have sentinels running light weapons and that's bad enough.
Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando
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Do you even lift?
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![Arx Ardashir Arx Ardashir](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
788
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:53:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote: *glares longingly at Biscuit's Melee tanking build.*
A longing glare. Now that definitely sets the psychotic tone.
Amarr Master - All Amarr Dropsuits at lvl 5.
Ghosts Chance's hero for 3/1/14.
A manu dei et tet rimon.
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![Lorhak Gannarsein Lorhak Gannarsein](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.18 01:55:00 -
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yes please.
Also mediums with heavy weapons.
(the only light frame I ever want to wear is the pilot suit. I also would prefer it as a medium suit. Yes I'm a bigot).
ak.0 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
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Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:09:00 -
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OP.
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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![MINA Longstrike MINA Longstrike](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:26:00 -
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I truly want to encounter forge gun / laser rifle 'demolishers' on top of buildings. /sarcasm
This is a bad idea.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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![Zaaeed Massani Zaaeed Massani](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:38:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote: This is a bad idea and it's clear to see that it hasn't been thought through *at all*. Variety for varieties sake is not necessarily a good thing. Ideally when a new suit is introduced it should fill some sort of niche, not just exist for existings sake.
+1
Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor
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![Chunky Munkey Chunky Munkey](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_amarr_128.jpg)
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:40:00 -
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I suppose we could call this specialisation the Becausefuckit.
No.
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Zaaeed Massani
RisingSuns Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:42:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I suppose we could call this specialisation the Becausefuckit.
+9001
Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Science For Death
2718
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Posted - 2014.04.18 02:48:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:I truly want to encounter forge gun / laser rifle 'demolishers' on top of buildings. /sarcasm
This is a bad idea and it's clear to see that it hasn't been thought through *at all*. Variety for varieties sake is not necessarily a good thing. Ideally when a new suit is introduced it should fill some sort of niche, not just exist for existings sake.
I don't think you understand.
Forge gun plus swarms can never be a bad thing. Neither can CR and HMG.
ak.0 4 LYFE
I am the Lorhak. I speak for the trees.
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![Canari Elphus Canari Elphus](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1439
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:06:00 -
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I think they need to introduce the Needlenose LAV first. It has a long lance on the front of it that skewers mercs as its drives through.
Canari Elphus for CPM1
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Yeeeuuuupppp
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:06:00 -
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This will be worse than rr heavies.. please no, don't let them be able to fit a kaalakiota rail with an hmg... I might just go full try hard with a shotgun to murder you.
CCP Saberwing: " War elephants for 1.9"
Mic status: Muted
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![Lynn Beck Lynn Beck](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_caldari_128.jpg)
Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.18 03:33:00 -
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Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:This will be worse than rr heavies.. please no, don't let them be able to fit a kaalakiota rail with an hmg... I might just go full try hard with a shotgun to murder you. Even with terrible regen stats and worse movement than a quintuple complex plated gallogi?
Huh. So why aren't commando's complained about?
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![Yeeeuuuupppp Yeeeuuuupppp](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Yeeeuuuupppp
The Lionheart Coalition
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:08:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Yeeeuuuupppp wrote:This will be worse than rr heavies.. please no, don't let them be able to fit a kaalakiota rail with an hmg... I might just go full try hard with a shotgun to murder you. Even with terrible regen stats and worse movement than a quintuple complex plated gallogi? Huh. So why aren't commando's complained about? Nobody complains about commandos because they can only have a light weapon, not a heavy weapon and a light weapon.. I'd love to see a commando scout though.. I wanna counter snipe ass holes while running around with an assault combat rifle while invisible
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![Youmadbroyolo Youmadbroyolo](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Youmadbroyolo
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:22:00 -
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lol what a dumb idea, maybe if it can move at only .10 move speed. |
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
26
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Posted - 2014.04.18 04:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it. Because variety, what else? Much like my idea for a scout with a Heavy slot, has 2 slots at proto, and moves slower than a scout.(slightly) Cloaky scouts with HMGs good god no please no *hides*
Get out! This is my hiding spot! I've been hiding here since they gave them cloaks
Come Join the War
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
4271
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Posted - 2014.04.18 05:17:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Arx Ardashir wrote:You forgot to say the "why" the game needs it. Because variety, what else? Much like my idea for a scout with a Heavy slot, has 2 slots at proto, and moves slower than a scout.(slightly) Cloaky scouts with HMGs good god no please no *hides*
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I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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