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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8451	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:02:00 - [1] - Quote It's painful trying to use it... AR can't compete damage wise against those damn CR's, and unlike with a scout or assault I can't freaking strafe fast enough to evade some fire. PLC is PLC. Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. I switched to MD which made my life easier against scouts but other than that, it's still freaking awful (Commando, MD is actually lots of fun). Anyone having a similar experience? Do I really need to go Minmatar Commando? Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1300	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:06:00 - [2] - Quote double PLC trolling
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 405	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:08:00 - [3] - Quote BrAR + PlC + Scanner.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8451	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:09:00 - [4] - Quote The Eristic wrote: BrAR + PlC + Scanner. Breach AR? Are you a masochist? Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 2284	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:14:00 - [5] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The Eristic wrote: BrAR + PlC + Scanner. Breach AR? Are you a masochist? Breach Plasma Rifle isn't all that bad on the Gallente Commando. Prof.'d and Commando V makes it into a little monster. This is a signature. You have been enlightened.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2287	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:17:00 - [6] - Quote Yes, breach AR is the best AR for a commando. - High damage/shot. - High accuracy (you're not a gallente assault). Its too bad the shotty is not working well at times, perhaps it is the bonus bug not applying spread reduction? I dunno. Its supposed to be a present for scouts.
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1154	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:20:00 - [7] - Quote I like the G-1 cause I like turtles. And they look cool. I'm gonna get my HMG +EX0 combo. So no, I'm not having the same experience as you. Specialize in Mass Drivers and Fluxes Ima force-a-nature I play TF2 and Warframe with a KB/Mousepad
The Eristic Sad Panda Solutions 406	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:20:00 - [8] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: The Eristic wrote: BrAR + PlC + Scanner. Breach AR? Are you a masochist? How might one single out a masochist in Dust, of all games?
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8451	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:22:00 - [9] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Yes, breach AR is the best AR for a commando. - High damage/shot. - High accuracy (you're not a gallente assault). Its too bad the shotty is not working well at times, perhaps it is the bonus bug not applying spread reduction? I dunno. Its supposed to be a present for scouts. Nope. DPS turns out 10% extra, regardless if you're using the Breach or the normal AR. Now granted you don't have as much accuracy with the normal AR, but you have nearly 100 more DPS over the breach. You can afford to lose some shots with that much of a DPS difference. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
I-Shayz-I I-----I 2970	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:34:00 - [10] - Quote Amarr Commando: Great for lasers Minmatar Comando: Allows for long range weapon alongside a mass driver, or put two sprint mods on it and you're as fast as a scout. Caldari Commando: The ultimate long-range fighter But the Gallente Commando...Gallente are supposed to be CQC fighters but you're slow. How are you supposed to get within range of the enemy if you can't catch up with a medium frame? I'd say the only real benefit of the gallente commando would be to defend an objective and let the enemy come to you. PLC with a fast reload would work. Dual plasma cannons doesn't work unless you go proto however... Dual ARs might be another option, but only if you are already skilled into them far enough. Links: 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! I make logistics videos!

Galvan Nized Deep Space Republic 896	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:39:00 - [11] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: double PLC trolling PlC and MD man, that's a crazy combo. The PlC is great as a shield crushing MD, just stupidly hard to use. Mopping up with the MD would just be gravy. You could actually really ** off a tank with dbl PlCs, you couldn't kill it but royally ** them off. You could seriously roll some major points against a LAV though, PlCs are amazing at getting damage points but not actually destroying them.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2287	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:40:00 - [12] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Amarr Commando: Great for lasers Minmatar Comando: Allows for long range weapon alongside a mass driver, or put two sprint mods on it and you're as fast as a scout. Caldari Commando: The ultimate long-range fighter But the Gallente Commando...Gallente are supposed to be CQC fighters but you're slow. How are you supposed to get within range of the enemy if you can't catch up with a medium frame? I'd say the only real benefit of the gallente commando would be to defend an objective and let the enemy come to you. PLC with a fast reload would work. Dual plasma cannons doesn't work unless you go proto however... Dual ARs might be another option, but only if you are already skilled into them far enough. You are right Shayz, it is NOT a run and gun suit. Brick tanked AR + shotty, point defence: Shotgun for scouts and mercs that get too close, AR for others. This setup is also great for breaching into areas with your squad. Breach shotty also get a reload speed faster than the RoF on the commando, so you can constantly fire if you get in the rhythm. Galmando is a bait brawler suit, you need to let the enemies come to you.
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 345	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:41:00 - [13] - Quote Nope. Kicking up dust in my Gcom boots. I'm slow, and goofy, but I'm slapping most frames out of their hitboxes. Enough hp to cover to cover to get close, a rep hive and complex reps to compensate, using my ar just fine against most other rifles. Knowing who,how and when to engage enemies is paramount. It's definitely a winner. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2287	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:46:00 - [14] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Nope. Kicking up dust in my Gcom boots. I'm slow, and goofy, but I'm slapping most frames out of their hitboxes. Enough hp to cover to cover to get close, a rep hive and complex reps to compensate, using my ar just fine against most other rifles. Knowing who,how and when to engage enemies is paramount. It's definitely a winner. GCOM, I like the sound of that!
Kara Anschel Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 111	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:54:00 - [15] - Quote G/1 Complex Plate Complex Rep Enhanced Damage Mod Nano HIve GLU-5 Tac AR GEK-38 AR I'm having a lot of fun with this fit.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1301	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:30:00 - [16] - Quote no seriously, from my experience the gallente commande is a great point defender/assault with PLC + shotgun. the PLC will seriously hurt any HMG heavy with a direct hit and the shotgun on the gallente commando can act like a pseudo HMG throwing out 900 dps of pain at close ranges. and if you are worrying about your speed with the close range weapons, well do it like the other heavies, call an LAV to move from A to B.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 12362	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:32:00 - [17] - Quote The question I frequently ask myself is why I'm using a CR over a bonused AR. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. EUrobro
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2288	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:42:00 - [18] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: The question I frequently ask myself is why I'm using a CR over a bonused AR. If not considering damage profile: A proto ACR only has ~2 more DPS than the damage modded Duvolle AR on a commando. This is a interesting fact. Good ADV fitting for you guys: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/767/3386
CRISIS BATTLESUIT RisingSuns Dark Taboo 35	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:54:00 - [19] - Quote The Minmatar Commando is a lot of fun though you will still be struggling to out strafe some of the enemies fire. Its somewhat lacking in the hit point department compared to the Gallenete Commando it has about 112 less base EHP, on the plus side the Min has a great stamina regeneration and a more balanced slot layout allowing for diversity and don't forget the mass-driver it can be lethal with the damage bonus. I forgot to mention the assault rifle paired with the combat rifle is a good combo on a Minmatar Commmando.
Kaughst Nyain San Dirt Nap Squad. 399	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:15:00 - [20] - Quote The MD is perfectly fine against just about every suit but the heavy. In regards to the heavy I don't know if it has to much EHP or the splash damage reduction is to much to what say a CR would do against a Gallente Sen. compared to a MD none the less I am sure they balance the Heavy out. The minmatar commando is such a bad suit if you were using it in something like PC with the MD. It is better off in a Ambush game. "He said he has a alt in STB." "Everyone has a alt in STB."

Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox INTERGALACTIC WARPIGS 297	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:42:00 - [21] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. i noticed it too. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1302	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:51:00 - [22] - Quote btw, the republic MD and CR allows you to make some nasty minmatar commando fits
Nosid Katona HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 164	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:52:00 - [23] - Quote I know the AR and PLC need help Cat, but I have watched Kirk do wonderful things with the GalMando. Infact he is the only person to steal kills from me and have me not mind; I was in no danger, could have easily finished them myself, however watching that glorious glowing orb fly over my shoulder and end people was worth only getting an assist. When the AR actually achieves its role and the PLC isn't for LOLs the GalMando will be a scary thing, i certainly wouldnt mind having one with me aince he can run almost as fast as i can. A side note however, with SS V you can achieve the same accuracy with the AR that a GalAss like me has. Having both SS V and a GalAss as my chosen suit makes my bonus pointless. :( Vae Victis Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2291	Posted - 2014.04.17 08:53:00 - [24] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. i noticed it too. Bonus bug. Cone reduction not applying. 100% sure of it.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8452	Posted - 2014.04.17 13:20:00 - [25] - Quote Nosid Katona wrote: I know the AR and PLC need help Cat, but I have watched Kirk do wonderful things with the GalMando. Infact he is the only person to steal kills from me and have me not mind; I was in no danger, could have easily finished them myself, however watching that glorious glowing orb fly over my shoulder and end people was worth only getting an assist. When the AR actually achieves its role and the PLC isn't for LOLs the GalMando will be a scary thing, i certainly wouldnt mind having one with me since he can run almost as fast as i can. A side note however, with SS V you can achieve the same accuracy with the AR that a GalAss like me has. Having both SS V and a GalAss as my chosen suit makes my bonus pointless. :( I already have SS IV, don't feel the need to get V. Now, about Kirk, that dude is a walking beast. He can probably use the most PoS fit and still do good with it. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 347	Posted - 2014.04.17 14:21:00 - [26] - Quote Nosid Katona wrote: I know the AR and PLC need help Cat, but I have watched Kirk do wonderful things with the GalMando. Infact he is the only person to steal kills from me and have me not mind; I was in no danger, could have easily finished them myself, however watching that glorious glowing orb fly over my shoulder and end people was worth only getting an assist. When the AR actually achieves its role and the PLC isn't for LOLs the GalMando will be a scary thing, i certainly wouldnt mind having one with me since he can run almost as fast as i can. A side note however, with SS V you can achieve the same accuracy with the AR that a GalAss like me has. Having both SS V and a GalAss as my chosen suit makes my bonus pointless. :( So having sharpshooter max adding the assault bonus doesn't make the dispersion tighter? Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2550	Posted - 2014.04.17 14:24:00 - [27] - Quote Kf your trying to use a gallante commando with gallante weaponry, myour gonna have a bad time. Jist abuse the gallante as being the best brick tanker, like everyone else does. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Nosid Katona HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 164	Posted - 2014.04.18 01:08:00 - [28] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Nosid Katona wrote: I know the AR and PLC need help Cat, but I have watched Kirk do wonderful things with the GalMando. Infact he is the only person to steal kills from me and have me not mind; I was in no danger, could have easily finished them myself, however watching that glorious glowing orb fly over my shoulder and end people was worth only getting an assist. When the AR actually achieves its role and the PLC isn't for LOLs the GalMando will be a scary thing, i certainly wouldnt mind having one with me since he can run almost as fast as i can. A side note however, with SS V you can achieve the same accuracy with the AR that a GalAss like me has. Having both SS V and a GalAss as my chosen suit makes my bonus pointless. :( I already have SS IV, don't feel the need to get V. Now, about Kirk, that dude is a walking beast. He can probably use the most PoS fit and still do good with it. True enough, Kirk is someone I'd enjoy fighting myself and I'm not ashamed to admit he would be a superior opponent. A challenge to say the least. Vae Victis Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
Nosid Katona HavoK Core RISE of LEGION 164	Posted - 2014.04.18 01:09:00 - [29] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Nosid Katona wrote: I know the AR and PLC need help Cat, but I have watched Kirk do wonderful things with the GalMando. Infact he is the only person to steal kills from me and have me not mind; I was in no danger, could have easily finished them myself, however watching that glorious glowing orb fly over my shoulder and end people was worth only getting an assist. When the AR actually achieves its role and the PLC isn't for LOLs the GalMando will be a scary thing, i certainly wouldnt mind having one with me since he can run almost as fast as i can. A side note however, with SS V you can achieve the same accuracy with the AR that a GalAss like me has. Having both SS V and a GalAss as my chosen suit makes my bonus pointless. :( So having sharpshooter max adding the assault bonus doesn't make the dispersion tighter? Not really now, no. I notice no difference and that is sad to say; granted I usually aim down sights and my assault bonus only works for hip fire but I hip fire enough to have noticed if it made a difference. Vae Victis Valor Vet, R.I.P MAG
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2329	Posted - 2014.04.18 01:55:00 - [30] - Quote You want to know how I know you're lying? Because I have Commando 2 and do well with a STD AR even against CR. Not the Six Kin or Boundless, but still. If you have skills in Gallente weaponry, then you're good. I put a point in it today, and loved it. I quickly saved up for Commando 2 and can't wait to get 3.

Fire of Prometheus Alpha Response Command 4272	Posted - 2014.04.18 02:07:00 - [31] - Quote As of late, I'm finding it unbearable to use anything but a tanked out heavy or a scout with a CR...... nothing can compete except tanks (or chicken $#!T as I like to call them), combat rifles (nothing can beat it at a long range, nothing can beat it at a close range), and flipping scouts with cloaks (seriosuly I feel like I'm living a paranormal activity movie....they come out of nowhere, tear me a new butt and then run off like nothing happened) Can you tell I'm burnt out? Alpha Response Command (ALREC) The premier training corp for commandos. Apply today!
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3960	Posted - 2014.04.18 03:16:00 - [32] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It's painful trying to use it... AR can't compete damage wise against those damn CR's, and unlike with a scout or assault I can't freaking strafe fast enough to evade some fire. PLC is PLC. Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. I switched to MD which made my life easier against scouts but other than that, it's still freaking awful (Commando, MD is actually lots of fun). Anyone having a similar experience? Do I really need to go Minmatar Commando? Yes. Go Minmatar Commando. The specialisation itself is pretty much Minmatar in nature anyway. Something formidable, nerfed down into a mushy bag of novelty. Add a bit of speed for lols, and an excuse to make absurd fittings. Voila, Minmatar through & through. May I recommend Assault CR & MDs with a KinCat. May I also recommend screaming as you empty the clips of both guns. No.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3056	Posted - 2014.04.18 04:18:00 - [33] - Quote I'm having the same issues. Not a idea suit. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Ace Boone G0DS AM0NG MEN Dirt Nap Squad. 122	Posted - 2014.04.18 04:37:00 - [34] - Quote Stacked kinetic katalyzers, Shotty with either a tactical AR or breach AR. Stacked damage mods. You are now fast af, and can get close enough to the enemy to put a damn shotgun in their back, raping everything in your path before you're gunned down. meh.
Maximus Stryker Who Are Those Guys 915	Posted - 2014.04.18 04:50:00 - [35] - Quote I recommend THIS FIT, I like it. *Faction Channels for FW Staging* PIE Ground Control \| Caldari Hierarchy \| Turalyon \| Chosen Matari
Omega Black Zero Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation 9	Posted - 2014.04.18 04:59:00 - [36] - Quote I run a Gallente Commando with an AR, Shotty, and Core Repper, while concentrating on Armor Reppers and a Reactive Plate on my Low and a Damage mod on my high. I usually stick with another heavy and if they are probing for HMG attacks at the door, I switch to my repper and hit the hvy and the logi that's already repping him. When he flips back to reload, I push to the front with the shotty to defend against any potential counter attacks. Works pretty well so far but only in CQC buildings and "town" situations.
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 2014	Posted - 2014.04.18 05:02:00 - [37] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It's painful trying to use it... AR can't compete damage wise against those damn CR's, and unlike with a scout or assault I can't freaking strafe fast enough to evade some fire. PLC is PLC. Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. I switched to MD which made my life easier against scouts but other than that, it's still freaking awful (Commando, MD is actually lots of fun). Anyone having a similar experience? Do I really need to go Minmatar Commando? I thought you were leaving. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 352	Posted - 2014.04.18 10:26:00 - [38] - Quote Ace Boone wrote: Stacked kinetic katalyzers, Shotty with either a tactical AR or breach AR. Stacked damage mods. You are now fast af, and can get close enough to the enemy to put a damn shotgun in their back, raping everything in your path before you're gunned down. You can't stack damage, it only has 1 high, ever. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8503	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:20:00 - [39] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cat Merc wrote: It's painful trying to use it... AR can't compete damage wise against those damn CR's, and unlike with a scout or assault I can't freaking strafe fast enough to evade some fire. PLC is PLC. Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. I switched to MD which made my life easier against scouts but other than that, it's still freaking awful (Commando, MD is actually lots of fun). Anyone having a similar experience? Do I really need to go Minmatar Commando? I thought you were leaving. I know it's something that your inferior tanker brain has a problem with unerstanding, so I'll explain it very very clearly for the 5th time. I was never leaving, I was taking a break, and so I did. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 355	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:34:00 - [40] - Quote That moment when you dis someone's intelligence and say unerstanding. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8504	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:35:00 - [41] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: That moment when you dis someone's intelligence and say unerstanding. I blame my keyboard. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 355	Posted - 2014.04.18 12:36:00 - [42] - Quote I blame ccp! Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Ld Collins Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 131	Posted - 2014.04.18 13:10:00 - [43] - Quote What about a proto commando with Adv cloak proto damage mod federation Ar and federation shotgun with 2 Complex dampeners and A complex Cpu upgrade. 31.7 db with advanced cloak edit: for the AR use a Balacs if all necessary skills are maxed you should have 475/478 cpu and 73/74 pg with 812 ehp
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 263	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:41:00 - [44] - Quote I-Shayz-I wrote: Amarr Commando: Great for lasers Minmatar Comando: Allows for long range weapon alongside a mass driver, or put two sprint mods on it and you're as fast as a scout. Caldari Commando: The ultimate long-range fighter But the Gallente Commando...Gallente are supposed to be CQC fighters but you're slow. How are you supposed to get within range of the enemy if you can't catch up with a medium frame? I'd say the only real benefit of the gallente commando would be to defend an objective and let the enemy come to you. PLC with a fast reload would work. Dual plasma cannons doesn't work unless you go proto however... Dual ARs might be another option, but only if you are already skilled into them far enough. kin cats in your lows. all of them. then grab a AR and a shotgun and a scanner. at the adv level add a precision enhancer and at proto level you can do a third kin cat or a range enhancer. i prefer the kin cats though as it makes you as fast as a normal scout without kin cats and faster than bricked scouts. obviously this means youre faster than everything else. the shotgun is your main and the AR is for stuff out of reach. scan before you enter a building, then rush in with the shotgun for the kill. precision enhancers are better than damage mods because they dont eat of PG and because the complex ones will show you medium and heavy frames that arent using damps. the ten meter scan range of commandos is good enough to camp corners and doors with your shotgun. its an all out fit for those that prefer to seek and destroy. no defending with this
Heavenly Daughter the Aurum Grinder and Company 394	Posted - 2014.04.21 19:47:00 - [45] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: It's painful trying to use it... AR can't compete damage wise against those damn CR's, and unlike with a scout or assault I can't freaking strafe fast enough to evade some fire. PLC is PLC. Shotgun saved my ass a couple of times but it has HORRIBLE hit detection lately. I switched to MD which made my life easier against scouts but other than that, it's still freaking awful (Commando, MD is actually lots of fun). Anyone having a similar experience? Do I really need to go Minmatar Commando? I tried lots of Combo's, Cr + Scr R, Scr R + Mass D, RR + Mass D, RR + Mag and Bolt, you get the idea. Best of all for me was RR and Mass D. And I agree, AR's aren't with BLEEP. !!!!!! The Organ Grinder & Co. EVE Heavenly Daughter-Merc Records


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