I sound conspiracy theorist here but it does make me believe there is some form of Goonswarm stuff going on. A group of people just trying to destroy things for their own amusement. I understand what in a MP game people will exploit systems, but it;'s just so crazy here.

I agree with the sentiment... however, I think he places far to much blame on the player for the state dust is in.

ultimately it falls on the shoulders of the ccp dust team to make a game where this either cant happen, or is discouraged through lack of profitability. right now, for instance a district makes money for doing nothing (I call being perma locked nothing) and then can spend that money in pubs stomping and potentially just make more isk. furthermore those types of players have all appropriate skills for their roles maxed, and they can be put up against people fresh out of the academy...but I cant blame the people who do this.

they are simply playing the game ccp has built, and however distasteful, cheap, cowardly, or whatever brand you put on certain player actions and practices, ccp made it possible for them to do it, either purposely, or ignorantly.

pyrex does admit ccp needs to do something because certain players are exploiting dust mechanics, but it has been this way since FOREVER! lol....

ccp's track record has been to drag their heals on almost everything that needs fixing while adding elements that were never discussed nor a concern of the community and breaking dust gameplay even more.....

Who the fucks cares. Its a video game not something competitive.

Okay, maybe 90% was an exaggeration, but they still own most of it.

I think we agree on your point though - What I'm trying to say, basically, is that right now, as Dust is currently, bluing up, dominating, and stomping is mechanically the logical thing to do. CCP must change that.

CCP is the moral authority here. CCP has made stomping right; CCP must make stomping wrong, or at least less of the one way to "win Dust", if they are to save their game.

Double post!
That's cool ppl need to hear it

SHOULD there be tiers? Hmm... let's put a pin in that question. And do some math.

How long will you tolerate between pressing "queue" and beginning a match? 3 minutes? Ok, let's go with 3 minutes, and assume you do your **** breaks and suit buying in those three minutes.

So some matches are faster than others, but let's call it an average of 12 minutes of fighting per match (ambush is much faster, dom/skirm can take longer). After the match, you immediately queue up for another match.

Let's say, that is what everyone in the game does. 23.5hours a day, seven days a week.

You now have a vital stat: Each player will QUEUE once every 15 minutes.

A few more vital stats for ya... Ambush, Skirm, Dom, AM/MIN FW, Cal/Gal FW... that is five match types.

It takes 32 mercs to fill a match.

In order to have everything running along smoothly so that matches actually deploy evenly, that is 160 mercs, every 3 minutes.

Since mercs only queue every *15* minutes, you need 5x 'batches' of mercs so that I can queue successfully at any time.

So that is a requirement of 800 mercs. Online, active, not AFK, dropping every 15 minutes.

800 mercs online, concurrently... to fill the current queues.

Every additional queue you add (separating ambush into two tiers adds one queue, and so on) requires an ADDITIONAL 160 mercs, online, at all times, to support the new system. Or else people are going to be waiting in queue for more than 3 minutes.

Math.

There's a reason they removed OMS long ago... The bad part is... I'm pretty sure I've had to explain this before lol.

"SHOULD" they add tiers is irrelevant. Given current player counts... CAN they?

[Edit: And the 800 doesnt even include people sitting online bullshitting in their quarters or people waiting for and playing in PC. The only viable solution would be draconian, but potentially the only way forward: Dismissing the 'tier' concept and straight up capping the 3 pub match types to advanced suits and below.]

There is some truth to the majority of the things he says.
However I believe, always have, always will, that a tiered matchmaking system (based on your fits meta level) or restricted matches like mlt only or no vehicles is too crude to really work.

1) It fragments the player base too much
If you've got 10% of the playerbase in no vehicle matches, 10% in no Proto Matches, 10% in FW, 10% in PC that's 40% of the playerbase you aren't matchmaking.
Suddenly no-one can find a match without waiting for 5 years.

2) It doesn't stop the Stomping
Saying to ProtoStomping Corp "Your not allowed to fight mlt noobs anymore" won't stop them stomping, its just the people they stomp will be in advanced gear as opposed to STD/Mlt.

3) You get fragmented stomping.
It will infact make stomping worse . You will get stompers in all tiers of matches thereby increasing your chancd of finding a stomp.


When it comes to Stomps people forget where the ProtoStomp orginated from, the PubStomp. The act of Protostomping is to commit a pubstomp whilst using Prototype gear. The problem is PUBstomp not the PROTOstomp. As pyrex hinted in his video and many people here besides, Prototype gear in Pubs feels taboo.

This should not be the case, just because someone is in Protogear does not mean they will win, even if no-one else uses proto gear on the other side. Its the squads, wolfpacks and spammers that are the problem. Like the people spamming uplinks on the mushroom, or the Top Corps spamming FOTMs in groups of 6 or above. The packs of tanks that stick closer together than sardines in a tin. This behaviour isn't from the new players or even the lone wolf vets. Its from the wolfpackers.

The system needs to plave wolfpack against wolfpack.

1) Create a hidden metric (for the remainder of this post I shall refer to this metric as 'infamy'), this infamy is calculated from a formula of key vital statistics.
These statistics include KDR, WPDR (WP/Death Ratio), ATTD(Average time to death), PPM (Profit per Match) and WLR (Win/Loss Ratio)

2) When matchmaking begins the AI looks for the match with the closest possible infamy levels to the player, in the event of a tie, the AI will favour the lower values (giving the player a 'good' match), while the player base is small there is no cap on differnce of infamy, only that it will favour closer levels first.

3) Squads are given average infamy levels and balanced upon this, the AI will exclude 'outliers' that have infamy levels below a certain level from the calculation, it will not exclude positive (larger infamy outliers), the AI will always favour placing a squad against a squad where possible.

You now have a fast matchmaking system that will give more balanced matches the majority of the time, the playerbase is now no longer fragmented (at all until CCP decide to place an infamy difference cap), that everyone but the stompers can enjoy.

Now you see one of the CPS memebers (EvE CPM) the chairman I believe, is quoted as saying something like, any in-game combat mechanic that benifits noobs should benifit the vets 10 fold, or something to that effect, which with respect will always be true.

However matchmaking is not a combat mechanic and therefore should be changed to benifit the noobs the most. This includeds

1) MUCH longer academy
2) Tutorial/Story Driven 1P Campaign
3) Matchmaking system that tees of equally matched opponents against each other.

Yeah his point is lessened somewhat when he gives it from a missile tank wedged somewhere it's not ment to be wedged.
And pubstomps a dom match.

"Stompers are killing this game" I will show you a pubstomp I prepared earlier for a background.

Who is that guy in the comment section talking about CCP killing the game?! Psh... I swear that isn't me.

*Begins to run and yells*

"Just Because he has my first two initials, doesn't mean it's me!"

You would also have to limit bonuses to the same tier.... Otherwise a vet in a starter suit still has a signifigant advantage... Be it well earned.