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Sourdough Muffins
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:26:00 -
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:30:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Atiim wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:
Minmatar Mass Driver (Noob-tube): -20%/+20%
MDs take more skill than any rifle in the game, especially the EZ-Mode hit-scan rifles. Gr8b8m8. This thread is about why the Amarr Commando brings the Laser weaponry in line and outperforms other ARs (CR aside). This is not about your opinion on the Mass Driver. Sorry for being off-topic.  Anyways, the Amarr Commando isn't as favorable because it only has 3 Weapons (LR, SCR, and ASCR) that gives it a damage buff. Your only good in 2 situations, while my MinCommando is good at just about any. Rifles aren't everything 
The 2 weapons it can use makes it viable in any situation just as your Minmatar Commando. The difference there is that my laser would tear you up at a range and my ScR would in close quarters. Minmatar don't favor armor so it wouldn't take long, but it would be a more or less equal fight. Your statement is false. :)
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
863
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:31:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:the epidemic on the forums, bad math
Holy inconsistent math batman.
So lets clear up a few things:
LAser weapon profile w/ lvl 5 commando & proficiency 5
vs shields = 1.2*.1.15*1.10=151.8%
vs armor = 0.8*1.1=88%
151.8/88
Gallente plasma weapon w/ lvl 5 commando & proficiency 5
vs shields = 1.1*1.15*1.1= 139.15%
vs armor = 0.9*1.1=99%
139.15/99
Minmatar projectile weapon w/lvl 5 commando & proficiency 5
vs shields =.95*1.1=104.5%
vs armor = 1.1*1.15*1.1= 139.15%
104.5/139.15
EDIT:
Minmatar explosive weapon w/lvl 5 commando & proficiency 5
vs shields = 0.8*1.1=88%
vs armor = 1.2*.1.15*1.10=151.8%
88/151.8
Caldari railgun weapon profile w/ lvl 5 commando & proficiency 5
vs shields = 0.9*1.1=99%
vs armor = 1.1*1.15*1.1= 139.15%
99/139.15
THOSE are the right numbers. Now you can extrapolate.
(this means laser/explosive weaponry is pretty much the only weaponry that really doesn't due at least full damage to something)
Fixing swarms
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Magnus Amadeuss
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
863
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:39:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Atiim wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Atiim wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:
Minmatar Mass Driver (Noob-tube): -20%/+20%
MDs take more skill than any rifle in the game, especially the EZ-Mode hit-scan rifles. Gr8b8m8. This thread is about why the Amarr Commando brings the Laser weaponry in line and outperforms other ARs (CR aside). This is not about your opinion on the Mass Driver. Sorry for being off-topic. Anyways, the Amarr Commando isn't as favorable because it only has 3 Weapons (LR, SCR, and ASCR) that gives it a damage buff. Your only good in 2 situations, while my MinCommando is good at just about any. Rifles aren't everything The 2 weapons it can use makes it viable in any situation just as your Minmatar Commando. The difference there is that my laser would tear you up at a range and my ScR would in close quarters. Minmatar don't favor armor so it wouldn't take long, but it would be a more or less equal fight. Your statement is false. :)
Using his definition, both have 3 weapons (the rifle, the assault rifle varient, the specialty weapon).
Oh and CR >>>>>> ScR in CQC unless you are a cheater (turbo controller, and even then does less damage over time)
CR does ~30% more damage per trigger pull, has a better damage profile, doesn't overheat, cost nearly nothing to fit, and is all around the best rifle in the game without exception.
MDs after the boost are pretty good again, and very effective cloaked scout control.
Fixing swarms
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
104
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:41:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:i'm a proto lvl Amarr commando with prof 5 lazer rifle. It works. I assure you. In fact in my latest video you can see it kill a 867 HP heavy in 2 seconds
The laser rifle is where the amar commando would really shine. 10% more damage on a heated beam would be a huge damage increase. Add a comp dmg mod to that and you have 15% more dmg on a heated beam. Rip through the shields while the beam is heating and then still cut through armor as the beam gets heated. I read on another thread, someone who was running the amar commando with a laser rifle and combat rifle so he has the +10% and prof dmg increase to armor for combatants who try to rush his range weapon. Sounded like an awesome combo.
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
85
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:44:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:the epidemic on the forums, bad math Math nerd being a math nerd
As you could tell, I was not running exact numbers. Hardly anyone reads something with actual math in it, therefore I decided to estimate. Looking at gameplay your numbers sound good, but people who spec into full Gallente Commando would rather vie for a RR/CR combination (even though neither works for the bonus) simply because they're the "preferred" weapon choice.
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9519
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:53:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Atiim wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:
Minmatar Mass Driver (Noob-tube): -20%/+20%
MDs take more skill than any rifle in the game, especially the EZ-Mode hit-scan rifles. Gr8b8m8. This thread is about why the Amarr Commando brings the Laser weaponry in line and outperforms other ARs (CR aside). This is not about your opinion on the Mass Driver. Sorry for being off-topic. Anyways, the Amarr Commando isn't as favorable because it only has 3 Weapons (LR, SCR, and ASCR) that gives it a damage buff. Your only good in 2 situations, while my MinCommando is good at just about any. Rifles aren't everything
You don't Amarr Commando often do you?...actually do you Commando?
Amarr Commando is insanely adaptable at basically any range....as you say we only have 3 weapons..... if the Amarr get a Light AV weapon...I can see us being significantly more able to address battlefield threats than we are now. Still not sure why Min get Swarm bonus damage......as it primarily doesn't make sense gaining a bonus from a non racial weapon on the suit....but what evs.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Rusty Shallows
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:58:00 -
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Kaminoikari wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:the epidemic on the forums, bad math Math nerd being a math nerd As you could tell, I was not running exact numbers. Hardly anyone reads something with actual math in it, therefore I decided to estimate. Looking at gameplay your numbers sound good, but people who spec into full Gallente Commando would rather vie for a RR/CR combination (even though neither works for the bonus) simply because they're the "preferred" weapon choice.
Don't feel too bad Kaminkoikari. Technically when presenting any math the equation has to be presented along with the variable inputs and assumptions before any calculations are done.
I'm curious if the Commando bonus suffers stacking with Damage Mods.
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Kaminoikari
DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
85
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Posted - 2014.04.16 23:16:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Kaminoikari wrote:the epidemic on the forums, bad math Math nerd being a math nerd As you could tell, I was not running exact numbers. Hardly anyone reads something with actual math in it, therefore I decided to estimate. Looking at gameplay your numbers sound good, but people who spec into full Gallente Commando would rather vie for a RR/CR combination (even though neither works for the bonus) simply because they're the "preferred" weapon choice. Don't feel too bad Kaminkoikari. Technically when presenting any math the equation has to be presented along with the variable inputs and assumptions before any calculations are done. I'm curious if the Commando bonus suffers stacking with Damage Mods.
I know that, which is why I went with estimations. Simple addition should be done by the reader because it's simple, lol. Pretty sure it suffers stacking like any other suit, except it only has 1 high at proto level.
Also... Kaminoikari. Nice try though.
Dropships need a buff. This way they can stop derping everywhere . ;_;
>Tfw no Amarr dropship and laser turrets
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