DUST Search - Getting Credit for Defending Objectives

Poonmunch wrote:

Takron Nistrom wrote:

There have been countless games I watched objectives and got a few kills, but the over all game was very slow because i wasn't running around with the crowd. I would like to see credit given for defending objectives and not just running around looking for kills or whatnot.

If you are within 100m an objective for 1 minute, you get +75 WP for Stand your Ground. That way if you are guarding an objective, you can get some kind of credit for contributing.

I always like to hear constructive ideas. And this one is.

But this could cause camping. I could sit (or run around) near a NULL cannon close to an MCC and get the equivalent of three kills every minute. Not a bad reward for relatively little risk, especially if I have a cloak. Plus any reds I kill and hacks I do.

And uplinks and nanohives I drop.

This is a better idea:

Ripley Riley wrote:

I'd say that getting a kill within 20 - 25m of an objective should award 10 extra WP's. Call it Vigilance or something.

I know a certain scout in my corp that would really enjoy that.

Munch

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Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 324	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:04:00 - [1] - Quote There have been countless games I watched objectives and got a few kills, but the over all game was very slow because i wasn't running around with the crowd. I would like to see credit given for defending objectives and not just running around looking for kills or whatnot. If you are within 100m an objective for 1 minute, you get +75 WP for Stand your Ground. That way if you are guarding an objective, you can get some kind of credit for contributing. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
ratamaq doc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 531	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:06:00 - [2] - Quote Camping an objective cloaked isn't as rewarding as it should be? YouTube
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1969	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:08:00 - [3] - Quote The problem is AFKing. Just find the most deserted point, and farm up even more WP than the usual AFKer. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 324	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:09:00 - [4] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Camping an objective cloaked isn't as rewarding as it should be? I'm not talking being cloaked. I've been doing that since way before the cloaks. I suppose I didn't think of that, but you can't penalize a whole part of the game just because of one tactic. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 324	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:10:00 - [5] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: The problem is AFKing. Just find the most deserted point, and farm up even more WP than the usual AFKer. Possibly, but you'll be on the ground, in the fight still. Not on the MCC. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1748	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:11:00 - [6] - Quote I'd say that getting a kill within 20 - 25m of an objective should award 10 extra WP's. Call it Vigilance or something. I know a certain scout in my corp that would really enjoy that. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1970	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:12:00 - [7] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: Possibly, but you'll be on the ground, in the fight still. Not on the MCC. But I can sit on the point and collect defense points, then drive off in my LAV as soon as an enemy comes to the point, and go find another uncontested point to stand on. It doesn't reward actual accomplishment. I'd rather see a WP bonus to a kill within x meters of your point. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 844	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:14:00 - [8] - Quote Takron Nistrom wrote: There have been countless games I watched objectives and got a few kills, but the over all game was very slow because i wasn't running around with the crowd. I would like to see credit given for defending objectives and not just running around looking for kills or whatnot. If you are within 100m an objective for 1 minute, you get +75 WP for Stand your Ground. That way if you are guarding an objective, you can get some kind of credit for contributing. I always like to hear constructive ideas. And this one is. But this could cause camping. I could sit (or run around) near a NULL cannon close to an MCC and get the equivalent of three kills every minute. Not a bad reward for relatively little risk, especially if I have a cloak. Plus any reds I kill and hacks I do. And uplinks and nanohives I drop. This is a better idea: Ripley Riley wrote: I'd say that getting a kill within 20 - 25m of an objective should award 10 extra WP's. Call it Vigilance or something. I know a certain scout in my corp that would really enjoy that. Munch Minmatar Patriot (Level 7) Dedicated Sniper
axis alpha Red Star. EoN. 311	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:14:00 - [9] - Quote I agree when I solo I point defend home objective most of the time unless we are losing horrible then I'll push for other but it's boring and lonley sometimes :( And no I don't use cloak or a shottie We won't follow the deceiver. You let this be your warning. The path of the wretched is burning..
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 277	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:17:00 - [10] - Quote No. Want more WP? Do something. Bang?

Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 324	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:18:00 - [11] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: There have been countless games I watched objectives and got a few kills, but the over all game was very slow because i wasn't running around with the crowd. I would like to see credit given for defending objectives and not just running around looking for kills or whatnot. If you are within 100m an objective for 1 minute, you get +75 WP for Stand your Ground. That way if you are guarding an objective, you can get some kind of credit for contributing. I always like to hear constructive ideas. And this one is. But this could cause camping. I could sit (or run around) near a NULL cannon close to an MCC and get the equivalent of three kills every minute. Not a bad reward for relatively little risk, especially if I have a cloak. Plus any reds I kill and hacks I do. And uplinks and nanohives I drop. This is a better idea: Ripley Riley wrote: I'd say that getting a kill within 20 - 25m of an objective should award 10 extra WP's. Call it Vigilance or something. I know a certain scout in my corp that would really enjoy that. Munch True, but i would consider guarding an objective more risk than dropping uplinks and nanohives and getting credit for that. you get way more points from nano-hives and uplinks and those you don't even need to be by after you drop them, and they pay way more in WP GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 324	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:25:00 - [12] - Quote Adipem Nothi wrote: WP = Doing Stuff "Guarding" something when no one else is around? Pretty sure that's not doing stuff. Maybe try guarding something else? Do you know how many times I've been guarding a quiet objective and stopped hacks and feel because i was, we won? More than a few. Just because I'm not raking in kills at a busy objective, doesn't mean I'm not contributing to the victory. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1021	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:29:00 - [13] - Quote Killing a hostile within 25m (for example) of a control point could yield +5 WP (for example) "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro -2176440-
Takron Nistrom Tinfoil Hatz 324	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:29:00 - [14] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Takron Nistrom wrote: Possibly, but you'll be on the ground, in the fight still. Not on the MCC. But I can sit on the point and collect defense points, then drive off in my LAV as soon as an enemy comes to the point, and go find another uncontested point to stand on. It doesn't reward actual accomplishment. I'd rather see a WP bonus to a kill within x meters of your point. Then make the Guarding WP claimable after a kill. that way you can't just run around and claim free WP. GÇ£Pulvis et umbra sumus. (We are but dust and shadow.)GÇ¥ GÇò Horace, The Odes of Horace
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 861	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:58:00 - [15] - Quote ratamaq doc wrote: Camping an objective cloaked isn't as rewarding as it should be? You realize that cloaks don't last forever? >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Soraya Xel Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 1978	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:13:00 - [16] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: ratamaq doc wrote: Camping an objective cloaked isn't as rewarding as it should be? You realize that cloaks don't last forever? They run over a minute. Stand still, cloaked, get 75 WP? I see something wrong with that idea. I'd like to be your CPM1 candidate
Henrietta Unknown Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai 129	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:44:00 - [17] - Quote Yes, I agree that extra WP's should apply to kills near the objective radius. And camping a lone, isolated objective is pretty eerie with the cloaked scouts raiding in squads.
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1285	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:17:00 - [18] - Quote While I agree that it would be nice to reward players for doing boring jobs, as others have pointed out it would be almost impossible to prevent it being abused. It is often necessary to make a decision between winning the battle and maximising your personal gain (in terms of ISK, SP and fun). RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus


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