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The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2340	Posted - 2014.04.16 09:47:00 - [1] - Quote http://s8.multiplexgaming.com/downloads/PodsideEp196.mp3 Listen to him and ask yourself "Is this who I want to represent me?" He says he don't want the community, he doesn't want us to be able to play like we want, if you are not serving under him then you don't deserve to play in PC. This is bad for the game and if you are in DNS or a DNS corp then you are just his slave. Do we want PC to be a tournament only place to play? I don't, I want PC to be a place where players have a chance to own something and he is trying to make PC into tournament only by taking 100% of districts. Members of DNS, you need to stand up to your raging overlord and change how PC is. I am not saying that it isn't fair that you own everything, I am saying that the members need to think about what he is saying and ask yourself if this is what is good for the game or what you want. 45:00 You have to join us to play in a tournament. 1:05:00 You are going to be a part of it or you change it. 1:15:00 We don't need TWL 1:28:00 F you we do what we want 1:43:00 PFC was a joke 1:46:20 I have more friends than Kane even knows 1:48:00 I want them all under me, I don't want community support, I don't want a tournament; I want a DNS tournament. You DNS members need to think about what is going on and in what direction your leader is taking you in because you are going to end up playing the same people in that tournament you all want. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2340	Posted - 2014.04.16 09:51:00 - [2] - Quote Then enjoy fighting the same people and having no pride for having something for yourself. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2340	Posted - 2014.04.16 09:57:00 - [3] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: I do what I want, even if I want to be somebody's slave, you are free to stop me. PS. I will check that when I get home, but I doubt it changes anything. I can care less who you are slave to, I care about the game and this vision of the game is bad for the game and plain junk. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2341	Posted - 2014.04.16 09:59:00 - [4] - Quote I just want people to hear what DNS's vision of PC is. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2341	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:08:00 - [5] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: I do what I want, even if I want to be somebody's slave, you are free to stop me. PS. I will check that when I get home, but I doubt it changes anything. I couldn't care less who you are slave to, I care about the game and this vision of the game is bad for the game and plain junk. Then why present it in a way that you care, if you really don't. If you don't like what he or someone else does, you as the community, have the power to stop him and anyone else. Forums just are not going to accoplish anything. I care about the game, not who you work for. There is no way to stop it because of ****** mechanics. I just want to draw attention to what is happening and why. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2343	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:25:00 - [6] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: MarasdF Loron wrote: I do what I want, even if I want to be somebody's slave, you are free to stop me. PS. I will check that when I get home, but I doubt it changes anything. I couldn't care less who you are slave to, I care about the game and this vision of the game is bad for the game and plain junk. Then why present it in a way that you care, if you really don't. If you don't like what he or someone else does, you as the community, have the power to stop him and anyone else. Forums just are not going to accoplish anything. I care about the game, not who you work for. There is no way to stop it because of ****** mechanics. I just want to draw attention to what is happening and why. There is no way to stop it because of community mechanics actually. Everyone is ready to whine and whine and whine, but nobody is willing to do anything to stop DNS, there are more ways than just clone pack attacks. I remember everyone crying back in the day that EON is unstoppable and what happened? I'm not pretending it's the same exact situation, I'm just saying there are ways, but your tears will only feed DNS. it is crap mechanics. It also the community's fault but only having one battle per day per district at the defenders choosing and anyone can leave a battle and appear in the next battle instantaneously. It is just a borked up as locking districts. As I said, I just want to highlight what DNS is trying to do and they are doing it, no tears here, I want this community to stand up and do something about it instead of crying. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2343	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:27:00 - [7] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: So basically you have a manipulator, and a large following for whatever reason. Dns Black said he wants to run everything, he has convinced strong corps to do his work on the ground, as mercenaries this could be for several reasons. Money, popularity, "server first" props, etc. The reality of it is, what are all the malcontents going to do about it? No backroom meetings being held? No political activist starting an anti DNS revolution? All the money in all of dust and there's not 50-75 ppl who can head up with DNS consistently? I for one, don't care, I played pc and still don't care. At least he had the balls to admit flat out he wants a takeover so he can mold pc as he sees fit. Now that the info is out... who is going to stand up to the tide should be the question? That is the question that I want people to ask, laying down and taking it isn't the way. I have said and will say good job for his work but his vision of what PC is and how it should and is working is complete junk. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2346	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:43:00 - [8] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: The manpower and capital that even The Legion of DarkStar corp alone has, could make a big difference, but like everyone else, they are not interested in doing anything to stop DNS. It's all talk and no act. I should probably stop before I get kicked for talking some sense into the community. That is the worst part, no one will act and if they do it is such a small number that they can't compete because they are fighting the best 16 players in the game who have unlimited funds. Mechanics and apathy are the two things that have made it this way, well that and players want to be on the "best" team so all the best justifiably join the same set of corps. So many corps are very small and filled with not the best players in the game. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2346	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:47:00 - [9] - Quote I am just stirring the pot some and trying to get some emotions going. I tip my hat to all those players who are fighting in PC and the leaders who bring them together because it is hard work. I just want people to fight back to make it interesting and sitting here crying about it is not interested. I am not crying, like I said I am just trying to stir the pot and light some fires. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2346	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:51:00 - [10] - Quote If you are good at what you do and want to fight back mail me in game and we can try to put something together but unless we have a good number of players it isn't going to work. We can change it anytime we want but we have to try. I will entertain any ideas but if we want to do it we have to go all in or get out. Fighting once or twice and saying it is not possible only empowers them more, we need serious players whom are fairly high skilled and it is possible but it will take time and a lot of suffering before we can do it. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2346	Posted - 2014.04.16 12:05:00 - [11] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: All I hear is... cutting off Black when he is talking cutting off Black when he is talking cutting off Black when he is talking cutting off Black when he is talking cutting off Black when he is talking 52:47 "Too many people talking here" Next time there is an interview, do it properly please. @everyone who was in it No matter who is being interviewed on any subject, when you keep cutting someone off and not letting them finish then you miss out on the points they are trying to tell you and little is learned. Future talks need a good mediator to make sure people aren't cutting each other off. Are you serious? Black talks for almost two whole hours and very few others can get a word in. I'll fix it for you Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when he is talking Black cutting off (insert name) when she is talking Until the end of the cast. Rants that last multiple minutes and are very loud and angry sounding. The times I listed were highlights, listen to the entire three hours and then tell me who interrupts whom. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2357	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:25:00 - [12] - Quote Killar-12 wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: People arent doing anything because they dont care enough to do so. Sure, people might talk about standing up to the new powerblock but they arent willing to put in the time, effort and resources to do so. Its possible for a single player to farm enough ISK for a clone pack within a week and a half by running a cheap 5k suit and blitzing ambush matches. That means that if 1000 people did this, you would have enough capital to blitz all of MH for four days straight based on income generated in 10 days. Why arent people doing it? Because its just not important enough for them to put the effort in. Its easy enough to come onto forums and complain and hope someone else does it for you but most balk when they actually have to work for it. So far, there have been some that have attacked but its mainly been disorganized raids than a blitz. I don't think that's what's the issue here I think it's a core issue in the game... look at it from the IRL perspective, this is a person with connections to TWL trying to promote it through himself rather than having TWL work with CCP, the issue with him is he's trying to push an agenda with RL stuff involved... He is trying to push is vision of how a tournament should work inside the game by controlling 100% of the districts and only allowing people whom him and his underlings deem fit to play. Tournaments are all fine and dandy but they should be ran so that they represent DUST514 and its players not DNS and it's corps. I am not saying that DNS shouldn't be able to hold the districts they hold because I admire their hard work and effort. I don't like his attitude, tone or way going about creating a tournament atmosphere. PC should be about players having a home not being a home for tournaments, again I don't have a problem with DNS owning 100% of the districts because in the long run it is the communities fault and bad PC mechanics that allow them to do so. To me, he is disrespectful to us, the Podside crew and the lady from TeamWarefare League by not letting them speak and the volume and tone he had through out the entire episode. That is the reason I made this thread, no other reason. He can be cocky and brag about how good he is all day because in the end he has most of the top players in DUST fighting nobody, it isn't impressive to me at all that 20-30 people can fight a few 15 minute battles a day. When the game has 10-15K players on average logged on then I may be impressed. In my opinion he made us all look like hot head crybabies to a person who only wants to help us enjoy out game to the fullest and if I had been her I would have told him to stick those districts back up to where ever he got them. I was literally embarrassed to be a part of DUST154 because of what he said and how he said it. Everyone on the show was interrupted multiple times while he splorked on for minute after minute about himself instead of highlighting problems, giving praise to hard workers in his alliance or proposing meaningful changes in a constructive manner. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2369	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:32:00 - [13] - Quote They can be beat, I could lead the way with the right corps and funding but I don't think that the community is willing to invest the time, ISK or blood that would be required for us to take back a good bit of the districts. In my mind I say we could take back and hold around half of the districts, but with morale as it is and the speculation of a PC overhaul coming then I just don't think that we have it in us. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2369	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:43:00 - [14] - Quote We can do it now but it will take 4-6 weeks and just don't think that most of us have the will power to do it. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2372	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:13:00 - [15] - Quote VonSpliff wrote: I don't know who that guy is, don't care. I personally follow Cubs and whomever he puts in charge. But if you think this guy speaks for the entire alliance you are mistaken. I don't know what the end game is but I promise it will not be announced on any forum. If you see an announcement it will already be too late. We are going to take MH. So please make a anti DNS alliance and try to stop it. Or you forum warriors just stay outside and whin to CCP to change PC. Either way it's a win to me. VonSpliff, Merc Tribal Voice - Minmatar FW Channel Black said he as won DUST - with no acknowledgement to any corp working towards his vision - and that the end game is turning PC into a DNS tournament league, you don't even know why you are fighting or for who because you don't care and that is the problem. No one cares, if you want PC to be a tournament league so you can fight the same people over and over then be my guest and have fun. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2386	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:19:00 - [16] - Quote Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Appia Nappia wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: People arent doing anything because they dont care enough to do so. Sure, people might talk about standing up to the new powerblock but they arent willing to put in the time, effort and resources to do so. Its possible for a single player to farm enough ISK for a clone pack within a week and a half by running a cheap 5k suit and blitzing ambush matches. That means that if 1000 people did this, you would have enough capital to blitz all of MH for four days straight based on income generated in 10 days. Why arent people doing it? Because its just not important enough for them to put the effort in. Its easy enough to come onto forums and complain and hope someone else does it for you but most balk when they actually have to work for it. So far, there have been some that have attacked but its mainly been disorganized raids than a blitz. Canari - you are overlooking the fact that the imbalances of ISK and current mechanics give major advantages to you. Do you honestly think the game is in a healthy place right now? When you have the bad NPE and the proposed endgame mode frozen out from the bulk of the community and folks like you (yes, I said it) running endless protostomps in pubs...how is that good? I don't fault you guys for an instant for taking advantage of the mechanics and putting in the work. When you make comments like that I think it's pretty disrespectful of folks that truly care about the game, trying to help it and the community, and frankly don't treat dust like a second job. From the tone of you post you seem to think that everyone can just whistle up a clone pack and away they go. You know as well as I do that's not the case. Jaysyn. Give Canari a break. He needs to hold party lines, don't expect someone in his position to break away to tell the truth Appia, I don't mind (and expect) Canari to stick to DNS message even though it's obvious there are issues in all directions with PC. I think his tone and glancing attack on the Dust community writ large was the issue - particularly for someone that wants to be on the CPM. I voted for him on the CSM but after hearing what he said and how he said it I wish I could take it back. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2386	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:38:00 - [17] - Quote D34NOS MAZDA wrote: Sum1ne Else wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: I'm just here for the ISK bitches. copy that I here for the people, ok i mean isk Just about the same thing if you think about it, we get paid for ears and noses. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2387	Posted - 2014.04.16 18:51:00 - [18] - Quote RayRay James wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: We can do it now but it will take 4-6 weeks and just don't think that most of us have the will power to do it. I'd be down for the fight All I need is a lot of ISK, some good players willing to follow orders and time. It will/would suck really hard for a while but it can be done and I know how we would do it. Resolve and money. This problem is 1/3 our fault for not wanting to take the hard fight, 1/3 their fault for wanting the easy path and 1/3 CCP's fault for giving us a crappy mechanic to fight over and hold districts with. If I were a better diplomat I would be able to do it but my abrasive nature and rigidity makes me think that I couldn't pull it off. I am a great people person when face to face but over a keyboard or though a voice com my personality doesn't shine like in the real world. I am good at few things and being right and predicting the future are some of them. Everyone I know says I am right 90+% of the time and usually end up calling me a pimp or genius by the end of the conversation. Everything comes around full circle and ten fold. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2389	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:08:00 - [19] - Quote Operative 2511 Dajli wrote: Whew, couldn't listen to much of that. Sounds like a bunch of northerners who still need a ball or two to drop. PC though is a bullsh*t epeen game mode that has nothng to do with the idea behind pvp competitive play as it is planned (and was supposed to already be) for connecting with EVE. It is about the EVE resources. Until PC has that as its one and only basis it is stupid. Also, allowing for complete dominance of something has nothing to do with a sandbox game. It is already ruining parts of EVE that are getting sat on by outside game groups. That further invalidates that part of the game to me. No use playing. Sorry, I have a life. I don't need to grind a Second Life. I sit and listened to the entire cast live and was amazed that it went like it did and that's why I tried to put some points of interest in my post. There are some gems in there and I wanted to show the community what was happening in the person who is winning DUST514 own words. People say "pics or it didn't happen" and that is one hell of a picture. EVE is about resources and community not about tournaments and epeens and we as FPS players have a hard time accepting those facts. As the game matures we will move out of out normal FPS mindsets and into the kind of thinking that makes EVE great then the game will be great but it is going to take time and hard work. Black is correct that only having this one small set of planets isn't a good thing but going about it how he describes and the way he describes it is way worse. Things are going to change and I think that it is going to make some people mad but make more happy. Burn out is a real thing and it will bite a lot of players quicker than others, in the end moderation is the key and people who can balance real life with fantasy will have much more fun. Sometimes this community has a hard time stepping back because this game is unlike any other FPS out there, it may suck but it is different and stressful. Knowing when to put it down is a hard lesson to learn. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2396	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:30:00 - [20] - Quote Ander Thedas wrote: I've really been thinking about why he DEMANDS 100% control of Molden Heath before he starts to run his tournament. The only conclusion I can think of is that there will be an element of extortion and control behind it that he can have a strangle hold of since no one else could ever possibly compete, since he owns 100% control of all the possible territories to run this in. There is no other reason to require 100% control if he also plans on running the BEST possible tournament system. He knows he can't handle competition of other tournaments potentially, the question just comes down to which element of the game play he's putting the squeeze on that would be dismantled by a fair competitor. Yes, why 100%? What does total control offer that owning a few planets wouldn't accomplish? I think it is so he can say he won DUST and created the only "Blue Doughnut in the New Eden" "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2399	Posted - 2014.04.16 19:40:00 - [21] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Sounds like the DUST community will "reap what you sow". Enjoy Still playing? I though you quit a long time ago. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2434	Posted - 2014.04.17 05:31:00 - [22] - Quote Duke Noobiam wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: I just want people to hear what DNS's vision of PC is. It's not his vision of PC, it's his vision of Molden Heath. In true EVE/sandbox fashion, if he can create and hold an alliance that holds all districts in Molden Heath then he can try to put his Molden Heath league together. I stand corrected, it is his vision of Molden Heath and yes if can create and hold 100% then he can put the Molden Heath league together but it is my vision that says he is wrong. The game needs passion and drive and his is different than mine. I am not saying he shouldn't be able to do it but I am saying that it isn't the right thing to do. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2435	Posted - 2014.04.17 07:18:00 - [23] - Quote What needs fixing is the junk attack mechanic. Fix that and it will work itself out. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2439	Posted - 2014.04.17 17:27:00 - [24] - Quote KingBabar wrote: I find it funny how all these corps outside of DNS keeps QQing about the general situation. Where is the big counter alliance? Where are the offers in my mailbox saying we'll pay you X amount for this or that? Well I have gotten some of these but they all mention isk in mere millions...... I get plenty of offers, mostly by lesser corps who seems to expect us to treat them as equals, which in terms of general game play performance really isn't an option. Many of these corps are to be considered food for our pub stomping machine, nothing more. When a squad of corp X cant do nothing in a simple pub game but place themselves on a rooftop the entire game, do you really expect us to drop a well payed job to join these various scrubs on some sort of unpayed crusade? We are mercs, money talks. Bring in the offers or STFU. Thats The Rainbow Effect official polecy on this entire topic. (I will however say that we have nothing but respect for WTF and Tracky, one of the few corps who actually puts up a good fight on average, even in pubs. We have helped each other out in the past, I hope Tracky an the rest of WTF see our dilemma and do not take our participation in PC against them as something personal, its all business....) If I had access to the ISK I would so do it but I am too poor and insignificant to make it happen. I can tell you how to do it but I just don't have the relationships in game to pull it off. It wouldn't be that hard to do but the people who are needed to pull it off just aren't willing and they don't want to spend the ISK. Without the proper ISK coming in it is going to take a group whom wants to to make the change because they want the recognition. As it is now with the apathy in the community and lack of pride is what holds them back and pride is going to have to be the driving factor for a while and I just don't think many players have the pride needed to force change. DNS corps are pulling in lots of ISK and that is all they care about and without the rest of the player base being able to pull in that much ISK there is little chance that more than a corp or two is going to even try. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2440	Posted - 2014.04.17 17:57:00 - [25] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: I understand what the OP is trying to do but it won't work. It's human nature for someone to be rolling in money and power to be oblivious to the truth of it all because hey, they are rolling in money and power. You're only going to sound like someone who hates what they have because you don't have it. Or at least, that's how they will view you. The only ways to take down DNS is finding a better tactic that would involve in-fighting/disruption or you take them head on. I can go on to say without asking its members that I know the majority don't give a damn what DNSBlack feels because they are on big dogs team. Most men can't even part their eyes from all that glitters just to hear something logical. I totally agree. I am more upset with community than anything else -myself included- for letting this happen and continue to happen. I want to change how many districts an entity can hold or wipe their assets or anything like that. I posted this for one reason only, to try and lite a fire under some people. Other than that I don't have any other motive. I want some passion out of the 99% whom don't care or don't think they can change something. I know I am horrible at this game and I know that I will never be space rich and it doesn't bother me at all. I don't want people to think this a QQ thread about DNS owning too many districts because it isn't, like I have said before and will say again. I admire the hard work and commitment their members and leadership have put into Molden Heath and if nothing else it should show others that with some hard work a lot of things can be accomplished. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2442	Posted - 2014.04.17 22:54:00 - [26] - Quote Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: Trouble is 95% of the community was never involved in PC so why would they care who controls it now? CCP needs to create alternate isk revenue streams so non-pc players can level the isk/protosuit playing fields. I reckon it will be a long time before they can make PC interesting to casual players. All it would take is mission based pve with a 1-5 level difficulty system requiering more players to complete as the dificulty goes up like eve has and that would be a major start in the right direction, personaly i think pc 1.0 is a little before its time and really needs to be scrapped, and faction warfare needs to be the place where the district mechanics are fleshed out along with the eve link, but im only a dropout game design student so imnot an expert on what is the correct way to make dust better. A big improvement would just being having the attack window be a few hours instead of one hour. A large majority of the districts can only be attacked after downtime when there is on a limited amount of players on. That is borked up and being abused to protect their districts. Right now 61 of the districts can only be attacked at 1200 EVE time, that is when there are the least amount of players on that allow for attacks, abuse much? The defenders should have some advantage but it is too much in their favor like it is now because of how down time and timers work. Make the window for attack be like 5-8 hours so owners can't schedule a time that vastly benefits them. If the attack timer was more balanced and not totally in favor of the defender then district control would be a lot different. I may be wrong but I think that a majority of players are in the American TZ and having the timers set for 7 am eastern all the way down to 3 am pacific is just another way for them to cheat the system. Hey DNS, grow some balls and put those districts on prime time if you are so tough. I doubt you will because you know that it wouldn't work out like it is now. Keep working shitass mechanics so you can say you are the best, if you believe that then set all your districts to prime but I know you won't because that wouldn't allow you to use bad design to "prove" you are the best. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2446	Posted - 2014.04.18 00:15:00 - [27] - Quote A'Real Fury wrote: Trouble is 95% of the community was never involved in PC so why would they care who controls it now? CCP needs to create alternate isk revenue streams so non-pc players can level the isk/protosuit playing fields. I reckon it will be a long time before they can make PC interesting to casual players. ISK payout needs to be toned down for top to bottom. The upper are making way more than the lowers and we all are making a little bit too much in pubs. Pull back pubs and make it more standardized and make PC hard work and expensive so that only well organized and high player count corps can hold multiple districts. There is absolutely no downside to ownership. One 15 minute battle a day is not enough work for the ISK is brings in per day. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2456	Posted - 2014.04.18 16:05:00 - [28] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: A'Real Fury wrote: Trouble is 95% of the community was never involved in PC so why would they care who controls it now? CCP needs to create alternate isk revenue streams so non-pc players can level the isk/protosuit playing fields. I reckon it will be a long time before they can make PC interesting to casual players. ISK payout needs to be toned down for top to bottom. The upper are making way more than the lowers and we all are making a little bit too much in pubs. Pull back pubs and make it more standardized and make PC hard work and expensive so that only well organized and high player count corps can hold multiple districts. There is absolutely no downside to ownership. One 15 minute battle a day is not enough work for the ISK is brings in per day. You lost me there. I went 19-2 the other day in a winning match and made 137K ISK. I have junk matches that pay 150K. I am saying tone down the payments to make using top end items less appealing. It may be the difference in roles. Do you get salvage often? I'm not being an ass but I rarely get salvage but I make decent ISK and WP, if you do get loot often would an open market make up for the lesser pay? "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2457	Posted - 2014.04.18 16:12:00 - [29] - Quote Meknow Intaki wrote: Entities like DNS are killing Dust.... =ƒæ+ To be 100% honest DUST needs things like this to make people wan to take action. I wouldn't say it is killing DUST but I would agree that abusing borked up mechanics is hurting the game but not killing it. If DNS is having fun then it is a good thing but it shouldn't come at the expense of the rest of the community. Again, the problem is just as much our fault as it is DNS's fault. CCP has their hand in it also because the mechanics and pay isn't conducive to fair play, I am not saying everything should be fair but it should be a level playing field and the attack timer times, attack timer lengths and the passive ISK generation makes the field uneven and by a wide margin in favor of the defenders. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2463	Posted - 2014.04.18 18:41:00 - [30] - Quote I use an advanced Min logi with all advance stuff except a proto tool and a Exile AR. I can't get good with a heavy, I don't shoot well. I am good at support not slaying. When I try to go killer I usually only pull off 3-6 kills with 3-6 deaths. I could do better if I practiced more and didn't love my tool so often. Honestly, I do best with my Dragonfly with Exile AR/Toxin SMG and dual uplinks with two advanced green bottles. I do well enough that I have thought about being a scout with a tool or some other equipment for fun. The suit costs like 10K and is super fun. No tank but I could fix that with a few plates. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2473	Posted - 2014.04.19 13:57:00 - [31] - Quote It would be nice to see him get taken down a notch. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

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