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Appia Nappia wrote:

Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:

Canari Elphus wrote:

People arent doing anything because they dont care enough to do so. Sure, people might talk about standing up to the new powerblock but they arent willing to put in the time, effort and resources to do so.

Its possible for a single player to farm enough ISK for a clone pack within a week and a half by running a cheap 5k suit and blitzing ambush matches. That means that if 1000 people did this, you would have enough capital to blitz all of MH for four days straight based on income generated in 10 days.

Why arent people doing it? Because its just not important enough for them to put the effort in. Its easy enough to come onto forums and complain and hope someone else does it for you but most balk when they actually have to work for it. So far, there have been some that have attacked but its mainly been disorganized raids than a blitz.

Canari - you are overlooking the fact that the imbalances of ISK and current mechanics give major advantages to you. Do you honestly think the game is in a healthy place right now? When you have the bad NPE and the proposed endgame mode frozen out from the bulk of the community and folks like you (yes, I said it) running endless protostomps in pubs...how is that good?

I don't fault you guys for an instant for taking advantage of the mechanics and putting in the work. When you make comments like that I think it's pretty disrespectful of folks that truly care about the game, trying to help it and the community, and frankly don't treat dust like a second job.

From the tone of you post you seem to think that everyone can just whistle up a clone pack and away they go. You know as well as I do that's not the case.

Jaysyn. Give Canari a break. He needs to hold party lines, don't expect someone in his position to break away to tell the truth


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Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 880	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:06:00 - [1] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: As i tell all people if u dont like it do something about it, talk to allinaces train your own corp awok anything but moning about it. Simply put the alliance is going to farm isk because if we are not then someone else will be. Yes its boring as hell but unless someone does somthing about noone in their right mind will risk getting stomped by the rest. Steady... first you know that I have lot of respect for you. I do not think you have the whole point with this... the way the mechanics are and the current imblalace in ISK has tilted the filed so far in favor of your end of the spectrum that it is an order of magnitude harder for the rest of the game community to actually disrupt the current state of PC than it was for you to take it under control. It's very easy for folks in your seat to just say get good and make attack me. Most folks don't have the near endless wallet that would require. Also...as long as the mechanics of the game allow for a few dozen people to teleport instantly from one side of MH to another while they treat Dust like a part-time job and dominate that's not healthy either. The concern with DNS Black is that he's a player that is taking away whole facets of the game from others. In EVE you can move from High Sec, Low Sec, and NulSec and Wormhole space. Here it's pubs, FW which most newer players can't afford, and PC which very few can afford. That is squeezing the whole player base in a way that isn't healthy for the game. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 880	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:16:00 - [2] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: People arent doing anything because they dont care enough to do so. Sure, people might talk about standing up to the new powerblock but they arent willing to put in the time, effort and resources to do so. Its possible for a single player to farm enough ISK for a clone pack within a week and a half by running a cheap 5k suit and blitzing ambush matches. That means that if 1000 people did this, you would have enough capital to blitz all of MH for four days straight based on income generated in 10 days. Why arent people doing it? Because its just not important enough for them to put the effort in. Its easy enough to come onto forums and complain and hope someone else does it for you but most balk when they actually have to work for it. So far, there have been some that have attacked but its mainly been disorganized raids than a blitz. Canari - you are overlooking the fact that the imbalances of ISK and current mechanics give major advantages to you. Do you honestly think the game is in a healthy place right now? When you have the bad NPE and the proposed endgame mode frozen out from the bulk of the community and folks like you (yes, I said it) running endless protostomps in pubs...how is that good? I don't fault you guys for an instant for taking advantage of the mechanics and putting in the work. When you make comments like that I think it's pretty disrespectful of folks that truly care about the game, trying to help it and the community, and frankly don't treat dust like a second job. From the tone of you post you seem to think that everyone can just whistle up a clone pack and away they go. You know as well as I do that's not the case. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 884	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:39:00 - [3] - Quote ^ spot on, Killar. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
Jaysyn Larrisen OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 884	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:46:00 - [4] - Quote Appia Nappia wrote: Jaysyn Larrisen wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: People arent doing anything because they dont care enough to do so. Sure, people might talk about standing up to the new powerblock but they arent willing to put in the time, effort and resources to do so. Its possible for a single player to farm enough ISK for a clone pack within a week and a half by running a cheap 5k suit and blitzing ambush matches. That means that if 1000 people did this, you would have enough capital to blitz all of MH for four days straight based on income generated in 10 days. Why arent people doing it? Because its just not important enough for them to put the effort in. Its easy enough to come onto forums and complain and hope someone else does it for you but most balk when they actually have to work for it. So far, there have been some that have attacked but its mainly been disorganized raids than a blitz. Canari - you are overlooking the fact that the imbalances of ISK and current mechanics give major advantages to you. Do you honestly think the game is in a healthy place right now? When you have the bad NPE and the proposed endgame mode frozen out from the bulk of the community and folks like you (yes, I said it) running endless protostomps in pubs...how is that good? I don't fault you guys for an instant for taking advantage of the mechanics and putting in the work. When you make comments like that I think it's pretty disrespectful of folks that truly care about the game, trying to help it and the community, and frankly don't treat dust like a second job. From the tone of you post you seem to think that everyone can just whistle up a clone pack and away they go. You know as well as I do that's not the case. Jaysyn. Give Canari a break. He needs to hold party lines, don't expect someone in his position to break away to tell the truth Appia, I don't mind (and expect) Canari to stick to DNS message even though it's obvious there are issues in all directions with PC. I think his tone and glancing attack on the Dust community writ large was the issue - particularly for someone that wants to be on the CPM. "Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero Skype: jaysyn.larrisen Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen