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Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1282	Posted - 2014.04.16 09:43:00 - [1] - Quote my to go assault before 1.8 was minmatar because I like its speed but I converted to my new toy, the gallente scout. I just got it to lvl 5 and this suit is facking amazing. here is my gk.0 fit: Hi & Low Slots: 2 Complex Shield Extender 4 Basic Armor Plates Weapons: Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle Six Kin Sub Machine Gun Core Locus Grenade Equipment: Ishukone Cloak Field Wyirkomi Nanite Injector or Ishukone Nanohive yes, I can fit a 770 HP tank, proto cloak, proto weapons plus another proto equipment piece on that thing and the gist is I am about as fast as I am with the minmatar assault with around the same total hp. I just traded that weaksauce clipsize bonus for an awesome cloak, a second piece of equipment, lower hitbox, lower scanprofile & higher scan precision plus the ability to evade alot of scanners. I can now cross the battlefield faster with my cloak without being caught because I do not have to waste my time trying to abuse terrain. RIP minmatar assault
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1283	Posted - 2014.04.16 09:56:00 - [2] - Quote Eldest Dragon wrote: Glad you got it bro, me and 50% of the other dust players got ours already, welcome to the party lol. I took my some time to get into it because I wanted to try out the gallente commando with PLC cannon first
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1283	Posted - 2014.04.16 10:36:00 - [3] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: you still dont hide better than a dampened/kincated scout. note that only the duvolle focused scanner on a gallente logi can "see" that suit if cloaked and for only 5s. considering that I am an "assault" using the cloak to cross terrain this is damn good. I can move over the field using the fastest path without worrying about rifles nailing me at range.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1284	Posted - 2014.04.16 13:00:00 - [4] - Quote pagl1u M wrote: It is not.... Amazing.... IT IS clearly and without any doubt OP, and you are going to see the nerf Hammer on your head Smooth Assassin wrote: Can't wait until i get nerfed, so you'll get nerfed for abusive actions. haters gonnna hate, I will enjoy while it lasts and in the meantime I save SP for the next over the top suit Happy Violentime wrote: Jack McReady wrote: I dont think any scout will fit that many precision enhancers just to see a cloaked scout. I run 3 complex precision enhancers on my Cal scout all the time dude. do you enjoy dropping in 0.5s against people with eyes and brain?
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1290	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:51:00 - [5] - Quote Heavenly Daughter wrote: Jack McReady wrote: my to go assault before 1.8 was minmatar because I like its speed but I converted to my new toy, the gallente scout. I just got it to lvl 5 and this suit is facking amazing. here is my gk.0 fit: Hi & Low Slots: 2 Complex Shield Extender 4 Basic Armor Plates Weapons: Six Kin Assault Combat Rifle Six Kin Sub Machine Gun Core Locus Grenade Equipment: Ishukone Cloak Field Wyirkomi Nanite Injector or Ishukone Nanohive yes, I can fit a 770 HP tank, proto cloak, proto weapons plus another proto equipment piece on that thing and the gist is I am about as fast as I am with the minmatar assault with around the same total hp. I just traded that weaksauce clipsize bonus for an awesome cloak, a second piece of equipment, lower hitbox, lower scanprofile & higher scan precision plus the ability to evade alot of scanners. I can now cross the battlefield faster with my cloak without being caught because I do not have to waste my time trying to abuse terrain. RIP minmatar assault Hope you're prepared for the Cloak nerf and scout strafe nerf. you think I care about nerfs? I am from closed beta and have collected plenty of SP for everything on several accounts already and the SP event lets me get even more SP for the next toy. in short, yes I am very well prepared for it. and btw, maybe you havent realized but the whole point of this post is to get attention. I want everything to skill into it thus CCP shanghai wakes up and maybe stops counting their dollars from booster sales once and manages to get something right. hope never dies.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1290	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:06:00 - [6] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: DozersMouse XIII wrote: I can feel it in my scout sensory that the OP has not fully invested SP in damps, range, or precision gimping his suit even further. p.s. I can out flank you, out strafe you, out ewar you, and all with 249 ehp. That's very true, and its also why I don't ever use the tanked out proto Gal scout I have fitted out (mine is better though, 3 enhanced plates and an enhanced repper). In general as a scout you are better off with E-war and/or speed modules and that is what I run. However, the OPs point was to compare the Gal scout he's got now to the Minnie assault he used to use. As someone who has proto myself in both those things and the exact same weapons the OP is using he is right. The gal scout can basically do what the min assault can, but better, though slower. It is not a very good set up for battling other scouts, but it is better than assaults can hope to manage. all of those statements are unfortunately wrong. the only thing that catches the cloaked scout on radar is a gallente logi with focused scanner => almost no one runs that and then it is only for 5 seconds caldari scout with 3 proto precision enhancers => almost no one runs that and it is only 37.5 meter range at max skills. I can see cloaked scouts at that range with my eyes, not to mention that such low HP is a liability when MLT weapon can pump out 400+ dps. and regarding speed: gk scout with 4 basic plates (and that is assuming the penalty is not stacking penalized): movement 5.03 Strafe Speed 4.52 Sprint Speed 7.39 minmatar assault with ZERO plates. 5.3 4.77 7.791 the difference is not even noticeable. I will check at home if the armor penalty is stacking penalized in which case it would be no speed difference at all if that is the case.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1298	Posted - 2014.04.17 05:43:00 - [7] - Quote Sourdough Muffins wrote: OP is also slow as ** and can be passively scanned from 80~ meters away WHILE CLOAKED from a properly fit eWAR Scout. Enjoy the shotgun blasts the the back of the skull you never saw coming bro! Dexter307 wrote: Bad fit is bad I could scan it with passives Brink tanked scouts are the worst possible way to fit a scout, you will get destroyed by any EWAR scout But hey, if you want to run that go ahead, it's just easy kills for me :) Youknowutimsayin wrote: Dexter307 wrote:** Bad fit is bad I could scan it with passives Brink tanked scouts are the worst possible way to fit a scout, you will get destroyed by any EWAR scout But hey, if you want to run that go ahead, it's just easy kills for me :) Yeah, please run this fit. Its easy to sneak up on not sure if troll or just super stupid
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1300	Posted - 2014.04.17 05:52:00 - [8] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: I already explained this to you[/url], how any Caldari scout worth his money can see through your proto cloak. Combined with the fact that your own scan precision isn't low enough to detect Caldari scouts without enhancers, you're gonna get sneaked on easily. So no, your wannabe assault fit isn't as undetectable as you think, unless you start swapping those HP mods for dampeners. lol "sneaked on easily" I can see cloak shimmer with my eyes at the range you can passively scan me. awareness > radar crutch what follows is I point my ACR at you, you drop in under a second while you just scratched the paint of my basic plates also you are entirely missing the point. this fit is better than an assault can get and I will no longer use my minmatar assault when I can just run this fit that is better in every way while having the same HP and speed.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1300	Posted - 2014.04.17 06:13:00 - [9] - Quote Denak Kalamari wrote: Jack McReady wrote: lol "sneaked on easily" I can see cloak shimmer with my eyes at the range you can passively scan me. awareness > radar crutch what follows is I point my ACR at you, you drop in under a second while you just scratched the paint of my basic plates So, you never leave open terrain where you can see cloak shimmers easier because nobody in their right mind would go to an objective gasp where there are buildings? Scouts have learned to hide from people without cloaks ever since scout suits were in this game, they don't just aimlessly wander in the open only staring at their radar to find you with their cloak on. My point is, to me it seems you're assuming everyone is blind and dumb as bricks while you, ultimate master scout, can see everyone trying to sneak on you. Hint, they're not. It's kind of ironic that you talk about crutches when you're the one using proto combat rifles in an HP tanked scout. there is a cool secret you have yet not discovered: get friends, play in a squad filled with different roles and stuff like cloaked trolls in the shadows become a nonissue and you are still missing the point. I am not the ultimate master scout, I am the ultimate master assault in a scout suit

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