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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:38:00 -
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All i have to say is that in current state of PC, the idea of PFC just doesn't work, what i mean is when RA,ERA,RND,FA joined DNS |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
676
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:31:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:When it comes to the DNL I am going to be the one taking the lead on setting it up and I understand the grave concerns the community has right now with the situation. I think we can work through those concerns and figure out a way to make this a win for everyone. If the community unites and starts a war against DNS so be it. We have gone from stagnation and brush fires to all out conflict that provides content to the whole community. If folks get on board with the DNL then great. We can run tourneys like back in the beta when we still had the fantastic tool of corp battles. Why would anyone get on board with it? Why would anyone in their right mind get on board with it? DNS is responsible for killing PFC, which was better for the community than what DNSBlack is trying to push. PFC was based on the reality that it's been proven egotistical overlords running PFC don't work. That's why we had a Council. Now you want us to bow down to an even more egotistical tool than we've ever seen before, and join his alliance to participate? You've gotta be kidding me, Kane. You're smarter than that. And so are the rest of us.
Im just trying to play devils advocate here but name a corp that started on PFC and went on to be really successful in PC? None that i can think of, but you got to understand PFC does not work in the current state of PC for example lets say we left PFC alone and DNS took the rest of the district who are you going to attack and be able to maintain a district outside of PFC?
edit: people need to understand that if CCP does open up more land PFC might be able to be expanded beyond one planet and there comes a point were a corp can only hold x amount of land too |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
676
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:47:00 -
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Killar-12 wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:When it comes to the DNL I am going to be the one taking the lead on setting it up and I understand the grave concerns the community has right now with the situation. I think we can work through those concerns and figure out a way to make this a win for everyone. If the community unites and starts a war against DNS so be it. We have gone from stagnation and brush fires to all out conflict that provides content to the whole community. If folks get on board with the DNL then great. We can run tourneys like back in the beta when we still had the fantastic tool of corp battles. Why would anyone get on board with it? Why would anyone in their right mind get on board with it? DNS is responsible for killing PFC, which was better for the community than what DNSBlack is trying to push. PFC was based on the reality that it's been proven egotistical overlords running PFC don't work. That's why we had a Council. Now you want us to bow down to an even more egotistical tool than we've ever seen before, and join his alliance to participate? You've gotta be kidding me, Kane. You're smarter than that. And so are the rest of us. Im just trying to play devils advocate here but name a corp that started on PFC and went on to be really successful in PC? None that i can think of, but you got to understand PFC does not work in the current state of PC for example lets say we left PFC alone and DNS took the rest of the district who are you going to attack and be able to maintain a district outside of PFC? edit: people need to understand that if CCP does open up more land PFC might be able to be expanded beyond one planet and there comes a point were a corp can only hold x amount of land too, but who knows what will happen with PC just need to wait for fanfest Nyain Chan...
what about Nyain Chan?
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Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
676
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:52:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Im just trying to play devils advocate here but name a corp that started on PFC and went on to be really successful in PC? None that i can think of, but you got to understand PFC does not work in the current state of PC for example lets say we left PFC alone and DNS took the rest of the district who are you going to attack and be able to maintain a district outside of PFC? This is very much a mechanical problem. You might've noticed new corps don't enter PC. Period. Any new power in Planetary Conquest has simply been formed of the remains of another corp that had power. It's functionally impossible for new players to enter PC, unless an area such as PFC is opened. Both the mechanics of clone packs and passive ISK generation ensure existing players will always have complete dominance, until CCP replaces this terrible gamemode. Mr Machine Guns wrote:edit: people need to understand that if CCP does open up more land PFC might be able to be expanded beyond one planet and there comes a point were a corp can only hold x amount of land too, but who knows what will happen with PC just need to wait for fanfest This is complete bull. More space means more money for the same folks that are already making too much money. Nothing more, nothing less. The only people who want this, are people who have a ton of districts and can easily get more. Did you ever consider why they would suggest that so heavily?
whats compete bull how many district has Nyain gained since joining DNS? i tell you 0 so to say its easier to get more district while in DNS the third largest landholder in dust has gain no land since joining DNS |
Mr Machine Guns
Nyain San
Dirt Nap Squad.
676
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Posted - 2014.04.17 22:31:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Im just trying to play devils advocate here but name a corp that started on PFC and went on to be really successful in PC? None that i can think of, but you got to understand PFC does not work in the current state of PC for example lets say we left PFC alone and DNS took the rest of the district who are you going to attack and be able to maintain a district outside of PFC? This is very much a mechanical problem. You might've noticed new corps don't enter PC. Period. Any new power in Planetary Conquest has simply been formed of the remains of another corp that had power. It's functionally impossible for new players to enter PC, unless an area such as PFC is opened. Both the mechanics of clone packs and passive ISK generation ensure existing players will always have complete dominance, until CCP replaces this terrible gamemode. Mr Machine Guns wrote:edit: people need to understand that if CCP does open up more land PFC might be able to be expanded beyond one planet and there comes a point were a corp can only hold x amount of land too, but who knows what will happen with PC just need to wait for fanfest This is complete bull. More space means more money for the same folks that are already making too much money. Nothing more, nothing less. The only people who want this, are people who have a ton of districts and can easily get more. Did you ever consider why they would suggest that so heavily? whats compete bull how many district has Nyain gained since joining DNS? i tell you 0 so to say its easier to get more district while in DNS the third largest landholder in dust has gain no land since joining DNS nyain san has a history of always backing the winning horse and changing sides if it looks like they are on a losing side. Doesn't seem like nyain has been big on expansion but very big on protecting its ASSets.
are you talking about alliance hoping?? Lets see Nyain joined NF then left NF after all of its players joined other corps no? Pro V Nyain joined only because AE. was going to join as well Nyain left pro v after AE joined RA and Nyain joined RA, LOI i believe they joined then the Kujo stealing the wallet thing happened so LOI lost it best players Nyain left. If I'm wrong please corrected me |
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