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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.04.16 21:08:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I like the part where he says he speaks for the Dust community (funny, I never gave this drunkard my support) but then a few minutes later he says doesn't care about the community and doesn't need them.
he should run for cpm
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Everytime I get a like, Two more bugs are born.
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General John Ripper
20101
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Posted - 2014.04.16 22:44:00 -
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Spectral Clone wrote:Roman837 wrote:Spartacus Dust wrote:DNS Black's plan for DUST 514 is complete and utter garbage that could be supplemented with the return of Corp Battles. You think everyone not in DNS is the minority. God I can't believe I'm going to say "we are the 99% and you are the 1% who controls the districts/wealth."
I rep over 2,000 players, believe me, it's not just WTF saying **** you, it's a lot more.
CCP ROUGE, be the messiah that the CPM0 prophesized. 2000 people? That's sad Sorry, who are you? Likes received: 233
Likes don't matter. But we are going off topic.
DNS Black is the worst thing that has happened to dust since Rampage was born.
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General John Ripper
20140
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Posted - 2014.04.17 21:02:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:Kain Spero wrote:When it comes to the DNL I am going to be the one taking the lead on setting it up and I understand the grave concerns the community has right now with the situation. I think we can work through those concerns and figure out a way to make this a win for everyone. If the community unites and starts a war against DNS so be it. We have gone from stagnation and brush fires to all out conflict that provides content to the whole community. If folks get on board with the DNL then great. We can run tourneys like back in the beta when we still had the fantastic tool of corp battles. Why would anyone get on board with it? Why would anyone in their right mind get on board with it? DNS is responsible for killing PFC, which was better for the community than what DNSBlack is trying to push. PFC was based on the reality that it's been proven egotistical overlords running PFC don't work. That's why we had a Council. Now you want us to bow down to an even more egotistical tool than we've ever seen before, and join his alliance to participate? You've gotta be kidding me, Kane. You're smarter than that. And so are the rest of us.
All dns black wants is control. Your either with him or a nonfactor. You don't need 100% to hold a tourney. You don't need to be the ones who decides who gets to have fun and who doesn't. You don't need to strong arm and manipulate mercs to forcibly join your alliance. While it sounds good in theory, it will never work that way.
Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed.
Everytime I get a like, Two more bugs are born.
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General John Ripper
20145
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Posted - 2014.04.17 22:04:00 -
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Mr Machine Guns wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Mr Machine Guns wrote:Im just trying to play devils advocate here but name a corp that started on PFC and went on to be really successful in PC? None that i can think of, but you got to understand PFC does not work in the current state of PC for example lets say we left PFC alone and DNS took the rest of the district who are you going to attack and be able to maintain a district outside of PFC? This is very much a mechanical problem. You might've noticed new corps don't enter PC. Period. Any new power in Planetary Conquest has simply been formed of the remains of another corp that had power. It's functionally impossible for new players to enter PC, unless an area such as PFC is opened. Both the mechanics of clone packs and passive ISK generation ensure existing players will always have complete dominance, until CCP replaces this terrible gamemode. Mr Machine Guns wrote:edit: people need to understand that if CCP does open up more land PFC might be able to be expanded beyond one planet and there comes a point were a corp can only hold x amount of land too, but who knows what will happen with PC just need to wait for fanfest This is complete bull. More space means more money for the same folks that are already making too much money. Nothing more, nothing less. The only people who want this, are people who have a ton of districts and can easily get more. Did you ever consider why they would suggest that so heavily? whats compete bull how many district has Nyain gained since joining DNS? i tell you 0 so to say its easier to get more district while in DNS the third largest landholder in dust has gain no land since joining DNS
nyain san has a history of always backing the winning horse and changing sides if it looks like they are on a losing side. Doesn't seem like nyain has been big on expansion but very big on protecting its ASSets.
Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed.
Everytime I get a like, Two more bugs are born.
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General John Ripper
20146
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Posted - 2014.04.17 22:19:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:As crazy as the whole situation may seem DNS dot has the personnel, ISK financial resources, and territorial control to actually pull something like this off.
While true, nobody asked for, or wanted this. Yes we want a better pc experience. No we don't want you all in charge of it.
Uniting a community like this won't work. People must wonder, is this all about helping provide a better pc experience for all players or another ploy to keep the same people in power?
tbh if this type of tournament league is what you want, you should instead push for free clone packs and no passive isk farming. That way people can attack at will. Stop trying to control everything under a guise that you just want to help people. The community is not that stupid. At least most of us aren't... Your trying to gain while trying to make everyone else feel good about it. It is not going to work.
Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed.
Everytime I get a like, Two more bugs are born.
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General John Ripper
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Posted - 2014.04.19 21:38:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:I have now listened to the podcast.
I had a meeting last night with TWL and DNSBlack and I have put the relationship between DNS dot and TWL on hold. When it comes to matters of Dust 514 and the Dust community DNSBlack will now be deferring to me. The Dirt Nap League has also now been put on hold indefinitely.
After FanFest the PFC will be reestablished and it WILL NOT require membership in DNS dot to participate. I will continue my discussions with the PFC Council and its administrator and seek their advice on how best to kick off PFC 2.0. There will be consideration given to Bosena also being reopened as Thunderdome so that Fittaken can be established as a community zone. I appreciate my friends in the community that brought this situation to my attention.
The pursuit of 100% Molden Heath control will continue in the meantime to exemplify the broken nature of key mechanics such as passive ISK and the inept tools of war such as anemic clone packs.
I wonder what made you change your mind?
Dust Lotto Challenge - Bump for Free tickets!
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