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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.04.15 23:43:00 -
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Luna Angelo wrote:Galthur wrote:Come back to me when I regen 20 armor per second default Come back to US when we regen shields without a delay. Come back to us when shields make you slower.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:18:00 -
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Artemis Kaiba wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:I am fully amarr (meaning little to no shields) and I completely agree:
1) shields should reflect progression just like armor does:
standard shields = 22 HP (33% of prototype) standard armor = 85 HP (63% of prototype)
advshields = 33 HP (50% of prototype) adv armor = 115 HP (85% of prototype)
shields should be changed to 44/55/66 to mirror armor plate progression, and they need thier PG at prototype cut back to ~6 PG, not 1 less PG than armor plates. don't compare different things. first, for pure hp comparison, look at ferroscale plates. usual plates include movement penalty. second, take in account that armor doesn't regen by itself, unlike shield. if you take all parameters in account, you'll see armor and shield are balanced. the other problem is that lots of weapons have bonus against shield and few against armor. simply look at rifles : gallente, caldari and ammar rifle have bonus against shield and only minmatar have one against armor. however i do agree delay penalty for extender could be removed
Railguns have an armor bonus, not a shield bonus.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:31:00 -
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Galvan Nized wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Artemis Kaiba wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:I am fully amarr (meaning little to no shields) and I completely agree:
1) shields should reflect progression just like armor does:
standard shields = 22 HP (33% of prototype) standard armor = 85 HP (63% of prototype)
advshields = 33 HP (50% of prototype) adv armor = 115 HP (85% of prototype)
shields should be changed to 44/55/66 to mirror armor plate progression, and they need thier PG at prototype cut back to ~6 PG, not 1 less PG than armor plates. don't compare different things. first, for pure hp comparison, look at ferroscale plates. usual plates include movement penalty. second, take in account that armor doesn't regen by itself, unlike shield. if you take all parameters in account, you'll see armor and shield are balanced. the other problem is that lots of weapons have bonus against shield and few against armor. simply look at rifles : gallente, caldari and ammar rifle have bonus against shield and only minmatar have one against armor. however i do agree delay penalty for extender could be removed Railguns have an armor bonus, not a shield bonus. Also, taking all parameters into account leaves shields lacking. They are MUCH harder to fit, have no equipment that makes teamwork a thing, nor do they scale well at all. Armor is far better for fitting, gives huge hp advantages at all levels, and only downside is a worse penalty. Honestly, the only change shields need is a buff to Basic and Enhanced plates to make the scale with plates.
Other than that 25-50 shields some suits are missing, they are fine.
Instead of 22/33/66 It would be... 42/54/66
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.04.16 00:41:00 -
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Change shield progression to:
42/54/66 from 22/33/66
this would put them at the same 63/81/100% ratio as armor plates.
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Posted - 2014.04.16 02:37:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:then armor needs to regen like shields They do Armor Regens 25/s passively? Prove it.
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Fizzer94
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Posted - 2014.04.16 03:18:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Egonz4 wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:then armor needs to regen like shields They do Armor Regens 25/s passively? Prove it. gallente sentinel 3 or 4 cx reps, 1 or 0 plates That is a bad fit. Both of them.
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