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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:38:00 -
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Quote:CCP Has recorded a loss of over $21 million for financial year 2013, a considerable drop from a profit of $4.6 million the previous year. Revenues for the company rose to $76.7 million from $56.3 million.
The predominant, if not only, factor in the sudden profit dip is a massively increased R&D budget, which shot up from $16.5 million in FY 2012 to $56.5 million in FY 2013. Whilst some of those costs are likely to relate to the development of Eve Universe properties Valkyrie, Online and Dust, a significant portion is thought to be attributable to the cancellation of World of Darkness, the Vampire MMO which ceased development earlier this week, resulting in the loss of 56 jobs.
A note in CCP's full financial presentation seems to support the theory that a large factor in this $40 million increase in R&D costs was the removal of asset value previously attributed to World of Darkness. via GameIndustry.biz
uh-oh. Hope this doesn't hurt too much.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:46:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:You're like a year slow man. Actually the $21 million loss wasn't revealed until the financial report at the end of March, but I saw no posts regarding it here.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:47:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Not sure if it works the same for CCP, but when most companies say they take a "loss," its not that they really lost any money.
See companies project to make so much money for the year, say 50 million USD. If they only earn 40m that year, they "lost" 10m.
Oil companies purposely project high every year, so instead of showing that they make Billions every year, they can say they lost a few million... Mainly "in the red" means not profitable and is a bad thing. If there are in the red it means they spent more money than they made.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:49:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:Agrios Endendros wrote:Quote:CCP Has recorded a loss of over $21 million for financial year 2013, a considerable drop from a profit of $4.6 million the previous year. Revenues for the company rose to $76.7 million from $56.3 million.
The predominant, if not only, factor in the sudden profit dip is a massively increased R&D budget, which shot up from $16.5 million in FY 2012 to $56.5 million in FY 2013. Whilst some of those costs are likely to relate to the development of Eve Universe properties Valkyrie, Online and Dust, a significant portion is thought to be attributable to the cancellation of World of Darkness, the Vampire MMO which ceased development earlier this week, resulting in the loss of 56 jobs.
A note in CCP's full financial presentation seems to support the theory that a large factor in this $40 million increase in R&D costs was the removal of asset value previously attributed to World of Darkness. via GameIndustry.bizuh-oh. Hope this doesn't hurt too much. Massive increases in R&D usually means long term profits. Example: Blackbarry = Low R&D expenditures. Apple = High R&D expenditures. Blackberry was very successful in the short term, but look at them now. That's what I hope, but if too mutch of that R&D budget was going to WoD then that is bad. If they invested heavily into Dust, Eve, & Valkyrie, it could mean a bright profitable future.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:09:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Agrios Endendros wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Not sure if it works the same for CCP, but when most companies say they take a "loss," its not that they really lost any money.
See companies project to make so much money for the year, say 50 million USD. If they only earn 40m that year, they "lost" 10m.
Oil companies purposely project high every year, so instead of showing that they make Billions every year, they can say they lost a few million... Mainly "in the red" means not profitable and is a bad thing. If there are in the red it means they spent more money than they made. Not always the case. It depends how the information is being presented. He's right on this isn't a big deal, for oil companies do it. They "lose" revenue which is shown "in red" because there are people like you in the world that see this and think "they didn't do so good this year", which usually isn't the case at all.
I'm pretty sure nobody in the financial world sees this as "doing good". There is a difference between showing lost revenue in red and the company being in the red. Don't get me wrong, I like CCP, that's why I'm concerned. CCP has been around a while and Eve is very successful I'm confident they can recover but $21 milloion is nothing to sneeze at based on their companies value.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:31:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:Not quite sure I understand how a decrease in asset valuation would lead to an increase in R&D costs?
I'm no expert but I think it's refering to before WoD was cancelled it had an asset value, as in for instance if a company wanted to buy a game in development, they would have to decide on what that unfinished game might be worth. Well that value helped to offset R&D costs on the game. Once that asset value was gone then all that R&D was no longer investment but now loss. I could be wrong on that if anyone has more/better input?
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