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rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 45	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:18:00 - [1] - Quote CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2510	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:21:00 - [2] - Quote rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. Sure if the Gallente rep is massively increased or the passive shield reps are massively reduced. For the Federation!
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2281	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:23:00 - [3] - Quote The smell of CoD/BF is in the air... Wait! I, also, hear faint voices! I can barely make them out. I think they're saying, "go... back... to Battle... Duty"? That's all I can understand. I'm sorry.
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 45	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:24:00 - [4] - Quote Joel II X wrote: The smell of CoD/BF is in the air... Wait! I, also, hear faint voices! I can barely make them out. I think they're saying, "go... back... to Battle... Duty"? That's all I can understand. I'm sorry. Not even 1 hp? You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
NAV HIV The Generals General Tso's Alliance 1469	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:25:00 - [5] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. Sure if the Gallente rep is massively increased or the passive shield reps are massively reduced. Weren't you complaining about tanks and scouts earlier ?!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens League of Infamy 2510	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:28:00 - [6] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: BL4CKST4R wrote: rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. Sure if the Gallente rep is massively increased or the passive shield reps are massively reduced. Weren't you complaining about tanks and scouts earlier ?! I wasn't complaining I was stating an opinion (scouts) and for tanks well idk For the Federation!
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 64	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:44:00 - [7] - Quote rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. Nope, if you want that particular ability, train into gallente. The passive armor regen is a nod to the gallente method of defense in EVE.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2284	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:50:00 - [8] - Quote rithu wrote: Joel II X wrote: The smell of CoD/BF is in the air... Wait! I, also, hear faint voices! I can barely make them out. I think they're saying, "go... back... to Battle... Duty"? That's all I can understand. I'm sorry. Not even 1 hp? Do you know how useless that is? You'd have to be a really good player to get your armor back up with one HP of repair. Equip a compact nanohive, that gives you 50 and is pretty cheap to fit. Or just run repair modules. You can also run a Gallente suit (the armor repair race). Other options include, but are not limited to: -not engaging long enough to lose shields -running reactive plates -running with a logistics -switching suits at a supply depot -finding other repair hives
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 178	Posted - 2014.04.15 18:55:00 - [9] - Quote rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. Pretty sure I always had a basic reactive plate on my scout before I got the rep bonus. Was gal not a good enough suit to spec into? Then that's probably why they created the reactive plate. K, thanks, goodbye
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1737	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:11:00 - [10] - Quote Squad up with a logi that drops armor-repping nanohives or fits a repair tool. BOOM! Save yourself a low slot Seriously though. Armor does not repair innately unless you are Gallente. That's their "thing". Caldari's "thing" is better shield recharge rate and delays. Minmatar's "thing" is faster movement/strafe/sprint speeds and the best stamina regeneration. Amarr's "thing" is dual tanking... although it should be massive amounts of armor HP and mediocre shields. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...

Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2285	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:18:00 - [11] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Squad up with a logi that drops armor-repping nanohives or fits a repair tool. BOOM! Save yourself a low slot Seriously though. Armor does not repair innately unless you are Gallente. That's their "thing". Caldari's "thing" is better shield recharge rate and delays. Minmatar's "thing" is faster movement/strafe/sprint speeds and the best stamina regeneration. Amarr's "thing" is dual tanking... although it should be massive amounts of armor HP and mediocre shields. Amarr isn't dual tanking. They're armor and endurance tanking. Reason why they have more stamina is because plates don't effect that stat.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1738	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:38:00 - [12] - Quote Joel II X wrote: Amarr isn't dual tanking. They're armor and endurance tanking. Reason why they have more stamina is because plates don't effect that stat. I don't see very many bonuses in the way of armor tanking, personally. Compare the Amarr and Gallente assault... Amarr: 70 PG / 350 CPU with 3H / 3L Gallente: 60 PG /300 CPU with 3H / 4L Amarr received a balanced slot layout and Gallente obviously favor low slots. You could argue that the Amarr receives better CPU/PG but the Amarr's weapon system of choice (lasers) are very resource hungry and pretty much omit that. Look at the shield / armor attributes as well... Amarr: 180 shields / 180 armor Gallente: 120 shields / 210 armor Again, the Amarr are balanced and the Gallente favor armor (as they should). He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Rusty Shallows 1523	Posted - 2014.04.15 19:52:00 - [13] - Quote rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. *Growls at Rithu* All the rep War Points are mine! Nuts to those Gallente stealing them with free reps. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Nocturnal Soul Immortal Retribution 2839	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:13:00 - [14] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Joel II X wrote: Amarr isn't dual tanking. They're armor and endurance tanking. Reason why they have more stamina is because plates don't effect that stat. I don't see very many bonuses in the way of armor tanking, personally. Compare the Amarr and Gallente assault... Amarr: 70 PG / 350 CPU with 3H / 3L Gallente: 60 PG /300 CPU with 3H / 4L Amarr received a balanced slot layout and Gallente obviously favor low slots. You could argue that the Amarr receives better CPU/PG but the Amarr's weapon system of choice (lasers) are very resource hungry and pretty much omit that. Look at the shield / armor attributes as well... Amarr: 180 shields / 180 armor Gallente: 120 shields / 210 armor Again, the Amarr are balanced and the Gallente favor armor (as they should). Do you even EVE bro? Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
Horizen Kenpachi Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 323	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:27:00 - [15] - Quote O.25 i hp every for seconds if i liked the idea Hit me with your nerf bat.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8019	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:28:00 - [16] - Quote rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. Why Minmatar and Gallente? If anything, Gallente and Amarr since they are the predominant armor tankers. Amarr are the good guys.
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 3032	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:28:00 - [17] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Ripley Riley wrote: Joel II X wrote: Amarr isn't dual tanking. They're armor and endurance tanking. Reason why they have more stamina is because plates don't effect that stat. I don't see very many bonuses in the way of armor tanking, personally. Compare the Amarr and Gallente assault... Amarr: 70 PG / 350 CPU with 3H / 3L Gallente: 60 PG /300 CPU with 3H / 4L Amarr received a balanced slot layout and Gallente obviously favor low slots. You could argue that the Amarr receives better CPU/PG but the Amarr's weapon system of choice (lasers) are very resource hungry and pretty much omit that. Look at the shield / armor attributes as well... Amarr: 180 shields / 180 armor Gallente: 120 shields / 210 armor Again, the Amarr are balanced and the Gallente favor armor (as they should). Do you even EVE bro? Don't the Amarr have more armour now? Also, the assault bonus now effects all weapons allowing for better fittings. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8019	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:30:00 - [18] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: Joel II X wrote: Amarr isn't dual tanking. They're armor and endurance tanking. Reason why they have more stamina is because plates don't effect that stat. I don't see very many bonuses in the way of armor tanking, personally. Compare the Amarr and Gallente assault... Amarr: 70 PG / 350 CPU with 3H / 3L Gallente: 60 PG /300 CPU with 3H / 4L Amarr received a balanced slot layout and Gallente obviously favor low slots. You could argue that the Amarr receives better CPU/PG but the Amarr's weapon system of choice (lasers) are very resource hungry and pretty much omit that. Look at the shield / armor attributes as well... Amarr: 180 shields / 180 armor Gallente: 120 shields / 210 armor Again, the Amarr are balanced and the Gallente favor armor (as they should). Medium suits are getting reworked soon so this is a bad example. Just look at the light and heavy suits which were updated in 1.8, Amarr obviously favors armor heavily. Amarr are the good guys.
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1738	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:31:00 - [19] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: Do you even EVE bro? If the Amarr dropsuits tanked like they do in Eve Online I would be using them consistently. I was a diehard Amarr pilot in Eve and I loved my Amarr ships with tons of armor plating and resistances. Dust 514 seems to stray from that vision... which is why I will be skilling into Caldari dropsuits until I see CCP change their tune about the Amarr. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
Ripley Riley Incorruptibles 1738	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:33:00 - [20] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Medium suits are getting reworked soon so this is a bad example. Just look at the light and heavy suits which were updated in 1.8, Amarr obviously favors armor heavily. You might be right. I haven't looked at the Amarr scout and sentinel dropsuits recently. I prefer medium dropsuits. I hope to see the slot layout rebalance give Amarr more low slots. I will actually skill into them then. He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...

Sardonk Eternia RisingSuns Dark Taboo 206	Posted - 2014.04.15 20:59:00 - [21] - Quote rithu wrote: Joel II X wrote: The smell of CoD/BF is in the air... Wait! I, also, hear faint voices! I can barely make them out. I think they're saying, "go... back... to Battle... Duty"? That's all I can understand. I'm sorry. Not even 1 hp? You get NOTHING!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6762	Posted - 2014.04.15 21:22:00 - [22] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: rithu wrote: CCP ! pls give all the suits atleast 1 hp passive armour rep, and some bonus rep to minmatar & gallente suits. Using a module slot just to save some hp is bs. passive shield reps are massively reduced. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iE4uEsaBF0=11s #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 520	Posted - 2014.04.15 22:06:00 - [23] - Quote I have thought on this for quite some time. Back when Uprising was released, last year, I went Mini Assault; as it was a good cross b/t a scout and assault and worked well (at the time, till about 1.5). Until I came back to Dust after 8 months, and armor tanking + dmg mods ruled the game; I was quite able to run no extra armor or armor reps on that suit, allowing the base 187 armor w/ 1hp rep work perfectly fine me. With current setups and pure tank, module usage, etc; it isn't a bad thing to think of all suits having some sort of base level armor rep; as all suits have a base shield rep. If you look at the gallente scout; I'd say they hit the mark perfectly there w/ a base rep of 3; but what should of occurred was make that the standardized rep across all of the gallente line. From there reduce by 1 for amarr across the board at 2; and have Caldari & Mini at a base rep of 1; as they should be shield tanking. Gives a minimal form of base hp rep could allow to freeup module suit slots that would better benefit the suit type you are using. Closed Beta Vet Mordu's Trials Winner Original IMP
Scheneighnay McBob Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 4777	Posted - 2014.04.15 23:00:00 - [24] - Quote It would be better if more people ran logi. However, we mostly quit being logis because the vast majority of players are special ed and die in the most ******** way imaginable. I'm from the weird side of the internet
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 49	Posted - 2014.04.16 12:57:00 - [25] - Quote Sardonk Eternia wrote: rithu wrote: Joel II X wrote: The smell of CoD/BF is in the air... Wait! I, also, hear faint voices! I can barely make them out. I think they're saying, "go... back... to Battle... Duty"? That's all I can understand. I'm sorry. Not even 1 hp? You get NOTHING! What suit r u using gal tank scout? You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
RayRay James Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 71	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:02:00 - [26] - Quote Berserker007 wrote: Gives a minimal form of base hp rep could allow to freeup module suit slots that would better benefit the suit type you are using. Yes it would free up a module slot, but why should it? I don't like having to lose a slot to a CPU mod on my pro logi, but I do it to fit what I want. Need more PG/CPU? scale back one of your modules to ADV instead of PRO. It's the trade off battle that happens with every suit and fit in the game. The passive HP bonus should only be Gallente based on lore. Want that particular ability, use a gallente suit. I consider it akin to the Amarr logi having a side arm. If that's an ability I want to have, I need that suit. I don't expect that just because the Amarr logi has a side arm that all logi's should have a side arm.
Django Quik Dust2Dust. 2871	Posted - 2014.04.16 14:12:00 - [27] - Quote Giving every suit passive armor rep would basically invalidate armor repping mods. You'd have to double their current stats to make them useful in that situation. You'd also have to bump up the gallente passive rep, so there'd be a more significant difference in that regards. That all stinks of powercreep and is entirely unnecessary. If you want 1hp/s, use a reactive plate. This game is all about sacrifices and if you want something like armor reps, you can't get them for free - you have to give something up for them. Dedicated sidearm scout - Watch out for that headshot Scout community is the nuts
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 522	Posted - 2014.04.16 15:48:00 - [28] - Quote Django Quik wrote: Giving every suit passive armor rep would basically invalidate armor repping mods. You'd have to double their current stats to make them useful in that situation. You'd also have to bump up the gallente passive rep, so there'd be a more significant difference in that regards. That all stinks of powercreep and is entirely unnecessary. If you want 1hp/s, use a reactive plate. This game is all about sacrifices and if you want something like armor reps, you can't get them for free - you have to give something up for them. id have to disagree, as you are only thinking linear in terms of suit loss, as to what you can put on it. Lets want to fully brink tank an Galente assault w/ 700+ armor, and only do a said 2/3 innate rep . You are looking at almost 3/4 minutes to recover your armor w/o aid of rep tool or rep hives. Given the same situation, you can tak it out with 500 armor, and a rep level of 11.75 (or 10.75, with current 2 rep) . That means you'd rep full armor in less then a minute. So there is already a built in cost-benefit situation with the suit. Even now you can full tank and use a base armor rep however to get back to full health will take a lot of time; or can forgo pure tank stats and use a repper to lower your hp level but increase your hp regeneration. It is currently the same w/ non armor suits in the form of shield. Extenders or rechargers/energizers. The only difference is Gallente don't have to technically use a slot for armor rep; so it already allows them more customization if they so choose w/o that "cost" . As Gallenete lines of suits somewhat go against the idea of cost-benefit; even if it is only slightly Closed Beta Vet Mordu's Trials Winner Original IMP
Zirzo Valcyn Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 435	Posted - 2014.04.16 16:22:00 - [29] - Quote they might as well go ahead and just remove the speed from minmatar and just give it to everyone else FFS......, hey it's tradition to do this to minmatar, right CCP? u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Yan Darn Science For Death 609	Posted - 2014.04.16 17:03:00 - [30] - Quote Or nerf fall damage. Seriously - the main reason I had to always have a reactive plate. I'd be half dead before I reached my destination otherwise. The Ghost of Bravo



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