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Romford Pele
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:52:00 -
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Is it a bug? I can understand Snipers surprising me but shotgun deaths seem to come out of nowhere and kill me without any chance of fighting back??? It happens a lot and it's making me wonder if my version is bugged or something. Appreciate any help... |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:01:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:There are sneaky cloaked scouts, and the deaths you are experiencing is one of them sneaking up behind you and murdering you. I may from time to time be one of those scouts. Really the only way to protect yourself from guys like me is to squad up and stay with your squad. Failing that try to travel with blue dots and periodically check your 6.
Thank you! So it's a real thing... Wow... I was trying to get a Null Cannon in skirmish and tried like 6 times but the same thing kept happening so that makes sense. I never saw the guy tho.. It was very frustrating. So basically it's impossible to get a Cannon if one of these special scouts is waiting there. I could see other players trying and he got them too. At the end this scout had the best score of anybody but his team lost the battle by miles. It was a strange game!
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Romford Pele
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:08:00 -
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RayRay James wrote:Cloaked shotgun scouts can get a shot or two off before they fully decloak. From your description, this is the most likely cause of your deaths.
It's a bug and will be fixed SOON(TM).
So it is a bug! Good to know. I can't say I was impressed by it but I assume it's not something that will happen in every game. It felt a bit impossible to be honest because I was doing well in the previous games then suddenly this! |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:13:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:They're scouts running cloaks with a shotgun.
The cloaks have built in dampning, meaning, you probably won't be able to find them on your radar if you don't dedicate your suit to scan modules.
Not all are invisible. They shimmer when they move.
Your cross hairs turn red when you point at a cloaked scout.
It's not a bug.
I hope I answered all your possible questions.
Thank you! So it's not a bug??? Confusing.. I can't find scan modules anywhere either. They mean I can see these guys right?
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Romford Pele
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:28:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:Romford Pele wrote:Is it a bug? I can understand Snipers surprising me but shotgun deaths seem to come out of nowhere and kill me without any chance of fighting back??? It happens a lot and it's making me wonder if my version is bugged or something. Appreciate any help... Who's alt are you ?!
alt means ***** right? I ain't no one's ***** bro lol |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:38:00 -
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Takron Nistrom wrote:I smell a butthurt alt
You smell a butt? Get your head out your ass then bro! |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:43:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:Romford Pele wrote:Joel II X wrote:They're scouts running cloaks with a shotgun.
The cloaks have built in dampning, meaning, you probably won't be able to find them on your radar if you don't dedicate your suit to scan modules.
Not all are invisible. They shimmer when they move.
Your cross hairs turn red when you point at a cloaked scout.
It's not a bug.
I hope I answered all your possible questions. Thank you! So it's not a bug??? Confusing.. I can't find scan modules anywhere either. They mean I can see these guys right? here's the thing. Yes there is a bug that lets you fire once MAYBE twice before the cloak completely vanishes. However, where guys are mistaken is in believing this makes a difference. Unless the scout is being lazy, overconfident, or placed in a bad spot (like being seen or detected) we'll be coming at you from behind or the sides. We really like to hang out around objectives. My general rule is, if you are hacking something alone assume you will die. If you manage to hack the thing and live, bonus, if you don't you just got what you expected Good luck out there
Thanks man I appreciate your replies and you are kinda making sense of this whole thing for me. Maybe it was you kept killing me earlier! If so didn't mean to imply you were a bug bro |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:48:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... Why does this look familiar...?
My next question did the guy appear in front of you or shot you in the back?
He didn't appear at all!!
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:12:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:pretty sure it's an alt talking to himself.
I'm not a troll dude but I am going to find you and kill you (in the game that is) assuming you're don't have the invisible bug... |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:17:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Romford Pele wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:... Why does this look familiar...?
My next question did the guy appear in front of you or shot you in the back? He didn't appear at all!! If he literally didn't appear at all, there are three possible explanations: 1. He was behind you, and might not have even been using a cloak, because he was behind you. It shouldn't be any surprise at all to you that enemies shooting you in the back have a tendency not to be visible when you're only able to look forwards. It's possible the enemy used a cloak to get behind you unseen before shooting you in the back. 2. There's a glitch that neither CCP nor any of the active forum users know about which can allow a player to continue firing while cloaked without breaking the cloak. The only known glitch allows a player to remain fully cloaked UNTIL THEY FIRE, but after that point, the decloak animation occurs as normal and they become somewhat - though not completely - visible for about a second before appearing normally. This can allow an extra shot before the cloak effect ends completely - meaning 2 - 3 shots instead of the usual 1 - 2 you'll get from proper use of the cloak. 3. Your TV settings are bad enough that the cloaked player isn't visible even during the most visible part of the cloaking - decloak animation makes players quite easy to see but it does have their image blended in somewhat with the background. If you turn up your colour and contrast settings, this problem should be solved. NOTE: I'm leaving option 2 as a possibility even though I consider it to be highly unlikely.
My TV loves my games - haven't got a problem with that at all. Just for the record I'm enjoying this game but have been trying to figure out why I die and then the game says I've been shotgunned. I swear I see nothing at all. That's why I thought it was a bug. But the replies that have tried to explain the whole thing are making sense of it. It's not a bug - but it's a bug etc... You can pay to be invisible but by accident they've made you invincible...
I can tell by the number of other responses here that say "you're a **** you're a ****" that a lot of people are enjoying the bug - but I hope it gets dealt with because it's a shame the games where people like that turn up are sort of unplayable. The games without the invisible guys? Brilliant, Love em. I still die to snipers but that at least seems like the player needed skill to take you down!
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:22:00 -
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NAV HIV wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Romford Pele wrote:Is it a bug? I can understand Snipers surprising me but shotgun deaths seem to come out of nowhere and kill me without any chance of fighting back??? It happens a lot and it's making me wonder if my version is bugged or something. Appreciate any help... Good alt post +1 troll post posting on your own alt ?!
dude you're obsessed... |
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:21:00 -
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IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:Romford Pele wrote:Quote:possible explanations My TV loves my games - haven't got a problem with that at all. Just for the record I'm enjoying this game but have been trying to figure out why I die and then the game says I've been shotgunned. I swear I see nothing at all. That's why I thought it was a bug. But the replies that have tried to explain the whole thing are making sense of it. It's not a bug - but it's a bug etc... You can pay to be invisible but by accident they've made you invincible... I can tell by the number of other responses here that say "you're a **** you're a ****" that a lot of people are enjoying the bug - but I hope it gets dealt with because it's a shame the games where people like that turn up are sort of unplayable. The games without the invisible guys? Brilliant, Love em. I still die to snipers but that at least seems like the player needed skill to take you down! Just bear in mind also that some players, predominantly those that played scout before the most recent release a few weeks ago, have honed their play-styles to use stealth very very effectively. This takes player skill, and does not require paying to be invisible (aka fitting cloaking equipment). I have killed many a merc without me using a cloak, and can guarantee plenty of them knew only as much as you did when dying. And there are far better scouts than me. I encountered what you described last week - and since then I've been playing with fits to figure out a counter. I don't know whether the bug was being exploited or not, nor do I care, because the counter I have in mind requires some patience on my part. Next time this is happening to me, I will try out my counter and see what happens. Part of the fun for me :)
Go on... tell me the counter cos I need some help here!!
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Romford Pele
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:26:00 -
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Right... Once and for all.. I'm not a troll. I don't see how me being new to the game makes me a troll. Everything I've read online says ask for help on the forum if you need it. After having a read of some other threads I can see this is a much discussed subject so apologies for starting a new thread about it. But it looks to me like the only people trying to discredit me are the people who use this bug to their advantage at the expense of players like me! Hell the people who've come clean and admitted they use the cloak and the shotgun like this have at least offered me some advice on what to do about it until it's fixed in the next patch. To them I say thank you - to the troll squealers I say - nice try!
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