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Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:54:00 -
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It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen -scan as well -high precision -can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:07:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen -scan as well -high precision -can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. No, the amarr and minmatar suits can also beat a maxed out caldari suit, they just need 1 cloak and 3 profile dampeners. Exactly. Those suits aren't specialized in dampning, so you guys will have to sacrifice more to get under it. I don't know anyone who uses the Minmatar or the Amarr to dampen... Amarr is armor/endurance and Minmatar is speed/skirmisher. |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:21:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen -scan as well -high precision -can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. Stfu troll I'm not whining and I have both suits, I'm askin what people think! Lol no u |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:26:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Joel II X wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen -scan as well -high precision -can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. No, the amarr and minmatar suits can also beat a maxed out caldari suit, they just need 1 cloak and 3 profile dampeners. Exactly. Those suits aren't specialized in dampning, so you guys will have to sacrifice more to get under it. I don't know anyone who uses the Minmatar or the Amarr to dampen... Amarr is armor/endurance and Minmatar is speed/skirmisher. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AvYSJ6FRJlihdHRWMFFxUDVPbzZPVTdjZmNwR2loYXc&usp=drive_web&pli=1&pli=1Obviously you have no friggen clue what your saying. Two damps and the gal is ghost to everything, plus two armor an two shields sitting aprox 600 ehp, cal scout can't even find you with 4 enh, so where u got that from I have no clue What are you replying to...?
That makes no sense to my post. |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:35:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Well ur saying I'm whining heres the numbers Yes, I know those numbers. Doesn't change the fact that you're whining.
The Gallente suit is specialized to counter your suit. If you take that away, we'll only have the armor reps that barely help in actual combat.
You can't scan us, and we can't scan you (unless we use precision enhancers and you don't use profile dampners). Seems pretty fair to me.
God forbid your suit gets an actual counter :o |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:39:00 -
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CRNWLLC wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:I don't really see a balance in this, is the gal supposed to be unstoppable with dampening? I'm to tired to do maths, and I kinda been not paying much attention to exact numbers since the 1.8 changes, all I know is gal scout an two damps trumps my cal.
Sure it's fine if you got backup but shouldn't cal see all? To me gal gets 4 bonuses Range Reps Damps And the ability to be a ghosts
The passive abilitys cancel one another out an because of percision mods being 20% and damps being 25% and stacking plus cloaks a gal is always gonna hide and kill us.
Is this right ? Should enhances be equal? DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen -scan as well -high precision -can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. Stfu troll I'm not whining and I have both suits, I'm askin what people think! I dunno, sounds like whining to me; Joel II X was just pointing out that the Cal scout suit is not without its merits. But in any case, they're evensies, because: Gallente35db [base profile] * .9 [10% level 5 dampening bonus] * .75 [25% level 5 suit bonus] * .75 [25% complex dampener bonus] * .75 [second dampener] = 14db (rounding up from 13.23) 40db [base precision] * .9 [10% level 5 precision bonus] * .8 [20% complex precision enhancer bonus] * .8 [second PE] = 24db (rounding up from 23.04) Caldari35db [base profile] * .9 [10% level 5 dampening bonus] * .75 [25% complex dampener bonus] * .75 [second dampener] = 14db (rounding up from 13.23) = 18db (rounding up from 17.72) 40db [base precision] * .9 [10% level 5 precision bonus] * .75 [25% level 5 suit bonus] * .8 [20% complex precision enhancer bonus] * .8 [second PE] = 18db (rounding up from 17.28) So, assuming max skills and equal number of relevant modules, both suits are invisible to each other. And since, as Joel II X and many others have recently pointed out, not every Gal scout and Cal scout are fit the same or even necessarily for EWAR (brick scouts, anyone?), the battlefield conditions are even more varied. That's how it works: you gotta hope that your strategy, as applied to a given battlefield situation, trumps your enemy's more than their's is likely to trump yours. That's the whole point of the fitting system, and it's where actual gameplay skills factor into the equation. Couldn't have said it better myself. Hopefully now they'll be enlightened. Forgot the stacking penalty, though. Either way, the end result is more or less the same. |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:51:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Joel II X wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Well ur saying I'm whining heres the numbers Yes, I know those numbers. Doesn't change the fact that you're whining. The Gallente suit is specialized to counter your suit. If you take that away, we'll only have the armor reps that barely help in actual combat. You can't scan us, and we can't scan you (unless we use precision enhancers and you don't use profile dampners). Seems pretty fair to me. God forbid your suit gets an actual counter IDIOT STICK I HAVE ALL 4 PROTO SCOUTS SUITS SO WHY THE FAK WOULD I WHINE WHEN I CAN JUST CHANGE SUITS! It's a friggen debat and simple question an u got ur panties in a knot thinking I'm crying nerf cuz ur a bloody troll trying to crush a perfectly good question about enhancer mods vrs damps since you only need 1 comp mod and a active cloak to be invincible. And I have both so being a jerk for no reason is bloody childish, now if I didn't have a gal suit than maybe, but it's ok bro we kno u like ur crutch it's cool! I debated my part, and then you get mad and start twisting your nipples.
If you got all four suits, then you shouldn't really be complaining. Lol |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:02:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:NAV HIV wrote:Joel II X wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Joel II X wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Well ur saying I'm whining heres the numbers Yes, I know those numbers. Doesn't change the fact that you're whining. The Gallente suit is specialized to counter your suit. If you take that away, we'll only have the armor reps that barely help in actual combat. You can't scan us, and we can't scan you (unless we use precision enhancers and you don't use profile dampners). Seems pretty fair to me. God forbid your suit gets an actual counter IDIOT STICK I HAVE ALL 4 PROTO SCOUTS SUITS SO WHY THE FAK WOULD I WHINE WHEN I CAN JUST CHANGE SUITS! It's a friggen debat and simple question an u got ur panties in a knot thinking I'm crying nerf cuz ur a bloody troll trying to crush a perfectly good question about enhancer mods vrs damps since you only need 1 comp mod and a active cloak to be invincible. And I have both so being a jerk for no reason is bloody childish, now if I didn't have a gal suit than maybe, but it's ok bro we kno u like ur crutch it's cool! I debated my part, and then you get mad and start twisting your nipples. If you got all four suits, then you shouldn't really be complaining. Lol If you have all 4 suits then you should know that the gal Scout is the Better Assault and Cal Scout is the better support and Hunter... You and Joel dating yet? I've thought about it, but my current girlfriend would get mad |
Joel II X
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Posted - 2014.04.15 17:08:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Joel II X wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote: You and Joel dating yet?
I've thought about it, but my current girlfriend would get mad You have a girlfriend ? Congradulations , what's his name? Her name is irrelevant.
This thread went down far too quickly. |
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