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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.04.15 14:57:00 -
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Really tired of all other scout suits trying to throw Gallente under the bus.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:00:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen
-scan as well
-high precision
-can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. No, the amarr and minmatar suits can also beat a maxed out caldari suit, they just need 1 cloak and 3 profile dampeners.
Yeah, you only have to not run kincats,cardio, range amps or hacking mods to do it!
Lows are a scouts blood, if someone wants to disappear it's going to cost them somewhere else. Gallente can do it easier, but it still doesn't mean we aren't gimping ourselves in someway.
Not to mention that no other scout besides the Caldari can get crazy high scan precision.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:38:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Joel II X wrote:It's the only suit capable of beating your scans. Quit your whining.
Caldari Scout gets:
-enhanced shielding with quick shield regen
-scan as well
-high precision
-can also be ghosts
Just because your natural enemy chose to go under your radar doesn't mean you should whine about it.
Equip CPX Precision Mods. Chances are, most Gallente Scouts are armor tanking, not dampning. I'll still get under your radar, but that doesn't mean others will. Just use your eyes. Eyes are OP. No, the amarr and minmatar suits can also beat a maxed out caldari suit, they just need 1 cloak and 3 profile dampeners. Yeah, you only have to not run kincats,cardio, range amps or hacking mods to do it! Lows are a scouts blood, if someone wants to disappear it's going to cost them somewhere else. Gallente can do it easier, but it still doesn't mean we aren't gimping ourselves in someway. Not to mention that no other scout besides the Caldari can get crazy high scan precision. So I sit here and say "you can beat a cal scout who sacrifices 4 module slotsand has a bonus dedicated to scanning, by using 3 module slots and the manditory cloak on a non-bonused suit" and you think... "man that non-bonused suit is really sacrificing." You do see the disconnect there right?
Isn't that the cloaks problem then? I'd be fine if they got rid of it honestly.
You can see everything and anything with or without a single mod. Once you put 1 or 2 you can spot everything except gal scouts or other scouts who have to sacrifice valuable low slots just to get away from you built in passive scans. Being able to see everyone at all times is better then hiding. Why? Because nobody runs scanners anymore and most scouts(besides Cal) don't bother with precision mods. Mediums or heavies will never, ever be able to see you.
The high slot has 1 valuable mod for scouts, precision. Your not really "sacrificing" anything to run them.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.04.15 15:54:00 -
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Dmg mods aren't worth the CPU/PG anymore.
Extenders and plates are not to be put on scouts.
All scouts get enough damp to hide from advanced scanners and with max passive skills you go all the way down to 31.5 iirc, so there is no reason to run damps unless you wanna hide from a complex scanner(good luck finding those anymore) or a Cal scout.
A cal scout's precision is 26.3 with max skills iirc(assuming he has a base db of 40 like the other scouts and has his passive skills to max, which if they aren't then you shouldn't be running scout anyway)
So a cal scout can see all scouts(except gal) mediums and heavies with no mods(assuming no one is running damps)
and all other scouts can see mediums and heavies(unless they run a damp or 2)
So the Cal scouts bonus is always active and gets to see basically everyone and the Gals bonus is good for hiding from Proto scanners and Cal scouts...that's it...
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.04.15 16:15:00 -
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Magnus Amadeuss wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:Dmg mods aren't worth the CPU/PG anymore.
Extenders and plates are not to be put on scouts.
All scouts get enough damp to hide from advanced scanners and with max passive skills you go all the way down to 31.5 iirc, so there is no reason to run damps unless you wanna hide from a complex scanner(good luck finding those anymore) or a Cal scout.
A cal scout's precision is 26.3 with max skills iirc(assuming he has a base db of 40 like the other scouts and has his passive skills to max, which if they aren't then you shouldn't be running scout anyway)
So a cal scout can see all scouts(except gal) mediums and heavies with no mods(assuming no one is running damps)
and all other scouts can see mediums and heavies(unless they run a damp or 2)
So the Cal scouts bonus is always active and gets to see basically everyone and the Gals bonus is good for hiding from Proto scanners and Cal scouts...that's it... Look, your post here is just oozing dumb. In one post you say you have the only way to fit a scout suit, and that everyone else is wrong. I don't even know where to begin other than saying that you are not interested in a conversation, just spouting your own misguided beliefs. If you don't fit a damp, then everyone who fits precision enhancers will see you (rounded to 24 dB w/ cloak, precision is alos rounded to 24dB w/ 2 complex modules) cal scout's precision is 27 (40*0.9*0.75=how to math) Just stop, you are sounding like an idiot.
You made no argument, just insulted me and said my math is wrong. Seriously, you never even tried to counter the fact that the Gal bonus is good for 2 things(really only 1 now) and the Cal bonus is better in general.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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