Lolno

I do pretty decent, not great, running solo in my Sentinel with an HMG.

And I will agree it is pretty hard to get in close for those kills. But when I do get in close... I die... but thats because my logi is too chicken **** to follow me up

Well once you close distance you usually have enough HP to engage targets, and your DPS exceeds your enemy which is the great and how some mechanics should work for short ranged weapons. Although you probably die because you have like 3 people on you and a logi who forgot his rep tool.

Is because any mechanic short of using a CR or RR requires you to get very close to the enemy, but attempting to do so will ensure your demise as you can be killed instantly before you can close any respectable amount of distance. There is no way to quickly close distance and stay relevant without getting your ass handed to you.

- Have you tried the HMG? Logi Suits? Commando with the Laser+SCR or CR+MD ?! lol

For example, you have a swarm launcher but you are to far from the target, getting within range of the tank usually means being in extremely vulnerable places where infantry and the tank can eliminate you quickly before you do any form of respectable damage to a tank.

- Why would you try to push with a swarm without proper cover ?! I know swarms need more range and damage, but you have commando suits now for swarms, so infantry shouldn't be an issue

Using a shotgun, there is no effective way to use a shotgun without a cloak since closing distance is practically suicide without a cloak and even in closed quarter map the range and hit detection is so bad you might as well use an ion pistol.

- Effective scouts are the ones that work with the squad... So they can be very deadly

The scout makes the AR work, although if the scout it's good with an AR it's better with a rail or CR.

- Scout + AR vs a Commando lol : Unless the Commando/Assault is bad at aiming then Scout wins, or else with 200+ hp its a lost cause

This is also why the CR and RR are the best weapons, they don't require you to be vulnerable for them to work.

- CR and AR has almost similar ranges (AR could use a scope though), Try fighting a Caldari commando/heavy with a RR

At least with a cloak most of these mechanics are slightly more viable as you eliminate the factor that includes you getting killed for trying to do your job, or trying to get to the intended range of your weapon.

- Cloak and scout, unless it's a gal scout with 3 dampeners and proper scout modules, they'll lose a lot of ISK

ISK Cost for my Proto Commando : 110 - 120k ISK
ISK Cost for my Proto Assault : 110 - 120k ISK
ISK Cost for my Proto Scout : 150 - 185k ISK

So yeah scouts are the way to go lol

Using a shotgun, there is no effective way to use a shotgun without a cloak since closing distance is practically suic

And the CR has DPS exceeding the AR, and RR has very similar DPS.

So.... why should I risk myself in CQC combat?

LAV

welcome to the world of heavy frames.

RR is a long range weapon... IT works better at distance, not in cqc. CR is a bit more cqc oriented but you can use it very well at distance. The only weapons that really require you to Close distance and say really near to your enemy are shotgun and nk, that are great weapons for scouts.

But say that a scout can use better rr and cr because he can Close distance....

You don't need to get close to use the RR. It's a long range weapon.

You don't need to use cloak to use the shotgun. I just speed tank.

This thread is irrelevant.

Yeah because you can ram an LAV through a tight corridor, this tactic works best for the HMG specially since when you get out of an LAV at top speed you end up like 20Meters from the place you pressed O at.

And what of my commando with kincats, shottty and CR?

I have no problems rushing the enemy.

Also my Assault has kincats, perfect for closing distance.

Although you probably die because you have like 3 people on you and a logi who forgot his rep tool.

Now they are gonna say, medium suits should not be allowed to use anything other than Shield and Armor modules lol

Off topic, but i thought you name was Hav Hiv, sounded appropriate.

How depressedd i must feel right now.

I do pretty decent, not great, running solo in my Sentinel with an HMG.

And I will agree it is pretty hard to get in close for those kills. But when I do get in close... I die... but thats because my logi is too chicken **** to follow me up

so your crutch machine gun doesn't kill them? impossible