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True Adamance wrote:

My biggest pet peeve is how Milita HAV essentially make putting SP into the Tanking role and class meaningless.

I can quite well understand the need to allow players to develop their own styles and means of play by allowing them to make use of weapons and equipment before putting their SP into the skill and unlocking the normal variant. However in terms of MLT HAV you essentially get an insanely powerful unit (yes Tanks are powerful units I admit it) for no SP and very little ISK which can effectively counter and make a mockery of the purpose of putting SP into HAV based skills.

That's not to say I have trouble with MLT HAV. I don't. I love seeing Tank Spam of MLT Spam. It makes my day. But when I make use of MLT HAV....I wonder why I ever put SP into tanks when I can achieve the same or better results than a Madrugar or Gunlogi.

What it feels like, instead of HAV becoming progressively more powerful or functional, that STD HAV allow you more room to **** up than MLT Tanks do. This to me isn't right.

HAV operation should feel tactical, how and when to activate modules, fitting tanks for functionality in certain roles over others, having the weaknesses of powerful short term reps and hardenings vs permas hardening and reps, and more importantly a player should feel like they are progressing from one tier to another.

When I can double damage/damage-harden a Sica and lay waste to a tanker with vastly more invested SP and ISK wise...the victory feels hollow and weak.

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Boot Booter Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 511	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:31:00 - [1] - Quote I am conducting a survey. What is your biggest pet peeve in dust / update 1.8. If you had to pick one thing that makes you rage quit or get butthurt the most about, what is it? WAIT! BEFORE YOU GO AND POST PLEASE READ! Please only post one pet peeve. Also, try to be as specific as possible. For example, "Dear Boot Booter, my biggest pet peeve is bugs", No WRONG! Which bug is the worst for you. Example 2, "Dear Boot Booter, my biggest pet peeve is when you kill me". Yes, good bunny, that is a very specific pet peeve. Example 3, nah just joking... You've got the idea. Now, I will post the tallied results every couple of days to see what one thing is really annoying the **** out of mercs. If you want to include a description of how to fix your pet peeve, please do. Nonsensical remarks and non specific peeves won't be tallied... But I know you'll put them anyway. Just a fair warning. The idea here is to show what things need to be fixed and in what order. Hopefully we get something useful and hopefully the Devs can use it to help "sort through the noise" on the forums. I'll kick it off with my biggest pet peeve. Sprint glitch. You try running but for whatever reason you can only move at the speed of 1/4 sloths per hour. You must stop sprinting, crouch, jump, or wait to fix it. It often happens when I pull out equipment. - - - - - - - - - - - Results - April 15 Sprint glitch - 100% SMG Specialist
jerrmy12 kahoalii 1006	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:35:00 - [2] - Quote redline snipers large blasters hmg heavies because its so op remotes because instakill lav roadkillers getting shot reduces speed CR and RR, mostly RR Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Boot Booter Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 511	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:37:00 - [3] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: redline snipers large blasters hmg heavies because its so op remotes because instakill lav roadkillers getting shot reduces speed CR and RR, mostly RR Can you pick one, the worst one for you? SMG Specialist
Repe Susi Rautaleijona 1208	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:40:00 - [4] - Quote Skills not applying on spawn. Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
jerrmy12 kahoalii 1006	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:44:00 - [5] - Quote Boot Booter wrote: jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: redline snipers large blasters hmg heavies because its so op remotes because instakill lav roadkillers getting shot reduces speed CR and RR, mostly RR Can you pick one, the worst one for you? i cant, two are tied hmg rail rifle Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
PARKOUR PRACTIONER R 0 N 1 N 1141	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:44:00 - [6] - Quote Being chased by a group of scouts. Once flanked from all sides then OHKed by a Creo shotty, then chased by a group of scouts and a couple meds then when I ran out of stamina got my face slashed open with a pair of basic Novas. Specialize in Mass Drivers and Fluxes Ima force-a-nature I play TF2 and Warframe with a KB/Mousepad
Hottracer88 The Southern Legion League of Infamy 11	Posted - 2014.04.15 07:52:00 - [7] - Quote Anyone that stays red zone wont come out to play tanks aee bad about it snipers I hate them but I guess there apart if life mybe need sumthing even odds against them
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1931	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:02:00 - [8] - Quote dear boot, my biggest pet peeve is ccp.... this game makes me sad....
Funkmaster Whale Ancient Exiles. 1850	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:05:00 - [9] - Quote Framerate lag. Server lag is bearable because I can expect there to be issues occasionally on a network of servers run worldwide, but when the game that's run locally on my PS3 starts to stutter and run poorly because of lack of optimization or what have you, it drives me nuts. Let me play you the song of my people!
G Torq ALTA B2O 677	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:06:00 - [10] - Quote Dear Bootie, My biggest pet peeve is people posting 854 threads on the same topic, instead of using on of the hundred other threads about how Scouts+Cloaks+Shotguns are OP because they once got killed by a player using that combination. Team Fairy DUST HTTP://Dust.Thang.DK/ - DUST514 Fitting Tool based on DUST SDE

Ablerober The Southern Cross Extraction Services 18	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:08:00 - [11] - Quote Being revived during a firefight. Then dying. Then being revived again. Then being killed by the same person for a third time. And being revived by the same person for a third time. I wish they implemented friendly fire in cases like this as the cu*t who revived me would taste lead. If only there was a button you could press to choose if you wanted saving or not...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 14235	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:09:00 - [12] - Quote skills not applying on spawn. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Caldari Assault // Unlocked
Boot Booter Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 511	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:09:00 - [13] - Quote G Torq wrote: Dear Bootie, My biggest pet peeve is people posting 854 threads on the same topic, instead of using on of the hundred other threads about how Scouts+Cloaks+Shotguns are OP because they once got killed by a player using that combination. Can I lump that in to a QQ forum spam category? SMG Specialist
Kaylee Veloc Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 66	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:11:00 - [14] - Quote I think my biggest pet peeve of 1.8 is getting to the hack point 1st at the start of a dom match with my minmatar scout and a complex code breaker and my passive skills still havent kicked in. d d d d d d d d d d dead.
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 821	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:14:00 - [15] - Quote The fact that it only took a year to make isk completely meaningless to a large portion of the playerbase. It took much longer for that to happen in eve. Fixing swarms
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 124	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:15:00 - [16] - Quote Hit Detection Favoring High Latency(Bendy Bullets) Bullsh*t RPG Style Hit Detection(Why Don't We Have Dynamic Hit Detection?) I Start To Wonder If I Am Masochistic After Playing This Game...........
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3050	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:22:00 - [17] - Quote Most of dust player base. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 82	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:29:00 - [18] - Quote Dear boot, My biggest pet peeve is Bunny Hopping! I wish jumping was removed entirely but I know how important it is to scouts, so make it either use all of your stamina, or consecutive jumps within about 3-5 seconds little tiny baby hops. And no firing in mid air.. maybe.. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9503	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:30:00 - [19] - Quote My biggest pet peeve is how Milita HAV essentially make putting SP into the Tanking role and class meaningless. I can quite well understand the need to allow players to develop their own styles and means of play by allowing them to make use of weapons and equipment before putting their SP into the skill and unlocking the normal variant. However in terms of MLT HAV you essentially get an insanely powerful unit (yes Tanks are powerful units I admit it) for no SP and very little ISK which can effectively counter and make a mockery of the purpose of putting SP into HAV based skills. That's not to say I have trouble with MLT HAV. I don't. I love seeing Tank Spam of MLT Spam. It makes my day. But when I make use of MLT HAV....I wonder why I ever put SP into tanks when I can achieve the same or better results than a Madrugar or Gunlogi. What it feels like, instead of HAV becoming progressively more powerful or functional, that STD HAV allow you more room to **** up than MLT Tanks do. This to me isn't right. HAV operation should feel tactical, how and when to activate modules, fitting tanks for functionality in certain roles over others, having the weaknesses of powerful short term reps and hardenings vs permas hardening and reps, and more importantly a player should feel like they are progressing from one tier to another. When I can double damage/damage-harden a Sica and lay waste to a tanker with vastly more invested SP and ISK wise...the victory feels hollow and weak. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Victor889 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 82	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:32:00 - [20] - Quote jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: redline snipers - not so much of an issue any more I find large blasters - no issue at all hmg heavies because its so op - nope remotes because instakill - sentinels can tank them now lav roadkillers - not so much of an issue these days getting shot reduces speed - this is a myth CR and RR, mostly RR - agreed. Part time Logi, Full time heavy.

P14GU3 The Southern Legion League of Infamy 556	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:38:00 - [21] - Quote Terrain! I have been getting stuck on terrain since beta. It has probably gotten me killed more than any other bug in the game Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 3050	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:41:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: My biggest pet peeve is how Milita HAV essentially make putting SP into the Tanking role and class meaningless. I can quite well understand the need to allow players to develop their own styles and means of play by allowing them to make use of weapons and equipment before putting their SP into the skill and unlocking the normal variant. However in terms of MLT HAV you essentially get an insanely powerful unit (yes Tanks are powerful units I admit it) for no SP and very little ISK which can effectively counter and make a mockery of the purpose of putting SP into HAV based skills. That's not to say I have trouble with MLT HAV. I don't. I love seeing Tank Spam of MLT Spam. It makes my day. But when I make use of MLT HAV....I wonder why I ever put SP into tanks when I can achieve the same or better results than a Madrugar or Gunlogi. What it feels like, instead of HAV becoming progressively more powerful or functional, that STD HAV allow you more room to **** up than MLT Tanks do. This to me isn't right. HAV operation should feel tactical, how and when to activate modules, fitting tanks for functionality in certain roles over others, having the weaknesses of powerful short term reps and hardenings vs permas hardening and reps, and more importantly a player should feel like they are progressing from one tier to another. When I can double damage/damage-harden a Sica and lay waste to a tanker with vastly more invested SP and ISK wise...the victory feels hollow and weak. I think that's why iv not logged onto my tanker char for about 4 months properly. I don't think tanks are op, they are just too easy to pilot now and you don't have to time mods or anything and they are all the fking same now. People used to name their tanks and sht but now meh. If you know what a telefrag match is, then I love you. The tritanium I sell is more relevant than dust has ever been.
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1003	Posted - 2014.04.15 08:41:00 - [23] - Quote Skills not applying on spawn. jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote: hmg heavies because its so op You must be one of those players that blindly charge towards a heavy or try to kill us in cqc with your racial AR of choosing? "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro
Lordsmash Dead Man's Game 16	Posted - 2014.04.15 09:51:00 - [24] - Quote The annoying slowdown effect upon getting shot.
LT Shanx OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 69	Posted - 2014.04.15 09:51:00 - [25] - Quote My biggest pet peeve is that I cannot see my merc's feet when looking down. I have looked and looked, but despite my efforts, I am always unable to see a thing.
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2329	Posted - 2014.04.15 09:58:00 - [26] - Quote No player market "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
KGB Sleep Inner.Hell 1020	Posted - 2014.04.15 10:13:00 - [27] - Quote Collision detection issues with terrain and when throwing grenades out of windows or near objects. Because beer, that's why.
Clone D 215	Posted - 2014.04.15 11:15:00 - [28] - Quote I died because scrambler pistol clip size bonuses were not applied and I spawed without full health and then I got reamed by a SMG while reloading and then I got pissed at the developers for not performing regression testing and introducing new bugs into the game and then I realized that any time I get irritated in life it is usually because of CCP programmers and then I wrote this . So yeah, basically bonuses not being applied. TL;DR BONUSES NOT BEING APPLIED !!!!!!!!!! What the hell? .
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 2	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:08:00 - [29] - Quote In general, I'm gonna have to go with....hmg heavies that do drivebys n just move from spawn to spawn whether it's a cru or an uplink they just happened to find
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 2191	Posted - 2014.04.15 12:19:00 - [30] - Quote Lordsmash wrote: The annoying slowdown effect upon getting shot. Especially from HMGs.... FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.



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