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Aszazel
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:15:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig mistake in getting rank five in any skill when you have so few SP to begin with, 4 is more then good enough while you build the rest of your essentials to 3 and 4, and THEN you can start wasting SP on that last level to 5.
Stay strong buddy.
Ah, you have to go 5 in botics to unlock kin kats and cardio regs. And its not that expensive x3 multiplier. He made a smart decision for a scout, red and green bottles are our lifeblood. |
Aszazel
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:16:00 -
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SPACE SYPHILIS wrote:I am at the worst point myself. I have over 44 million SP and have maxed out all the skills in drop suit upgrades, 3 proto suits and 9 proto weapons and still have 400K left over. I am at a horrible place for I want to use the SP but there is nothing I want. I know you and I are at different points, but we are at a same point and that is we are stuck and only time will help us. Good luck.
You are an a$$. If you are serious though, (I doubt) get an assault drepship and start blowing all the billion of isk you must be sitting on. |
Aszazel
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:19:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig mistake in getting rank five in any skill when you have so few SP to begin with, 4 is more then good enough while you build the rest of your essentials to 3 and 4, and THEN you can start wasting SP on that last level to 5.
Stay strong buddy. I've learn, but if you max anything MAX CORE PG/CPU FIRST. It will make any suit run like a proto suit. But I'm at 7mil total right now including both refund and events.
Get core and pg to 4, 5 is way too much to blow when 777K SP will get you to proto in almost anything else. However, before you go to even 4 in PG/CPU, have the patience to get your suit to 5, the lowered cost of cloak + the range + the dampening will make your basic suit feel way more powerful. |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1906
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:25:00 -
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I feel your pain- I only recently emerged from that zone a few months ago. My advice is to make some cheap-fitted ADV suits- ADV suit, basic weaponry, basic equipment, the best modules you can fit. At that point you can run ADV for only around 25k-30k per suit. Practice, practice, practice at this level of gear, so that when you finally get to turn it up some notches in a few months, you'll feel like a god.
This is going to be a controversial opinion, but since you're a scout I would focus on getting your suit skill to V. Not to use the proto suits, but to make it feasible to run a cloak on a STD suit and get your free complex damp. It's a grind, but the 3x SP week coming up plus the 750k from the last event should get you most of the way from 3 to 5. Being able to fit a cloak on your STD suit makes you much, much more effective in the cheapsuits. You don't necessarily need the extra EHP or speed or damage from high-tier suits and weapons when you have that level of positioning and engagement control.
edit: I still have my CPU/PG core skills at 3, and I don't have trouble making solid fittings at every tier. Maxing it is good, but it's not absolutely crucial.
Nerdier than thou
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Aszazel
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:29:00 -
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I know you been frustrated, I was too when I was were you are at. We had a couple of good runs with the fits we made together and next time I am on I will try to run 1 on 1 with you. It just gets too hard with more than that. Stick with CR/ZN-28 on a basic gal scout frame with basic\militia shield extender, kin kats, cardio, plate, flux, and cloak. Should be around 12K. Or what I did, (cause if you don't get enough war points you won't make enough to pay for more than 10 deaths) is to get a milita minimatar light frame, two kin kats, and a stable uplink and run around and drop one in a smart location 100M out from an objective on the enemies half of the board. Even if we own it at the time, once it flips, you will start getting +25 spawn like a strobe.
Also, you GOTTA get a 720p or better TV. Your WORLD WILL CHANGE MAN. Standard def sucks balllsssssss.
I'll see if I can get on tonight for ya. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion League of Infamy
558
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:32:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Biiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiig mistake in getting rank five in any skill when you have so few SP to begin with, 4 is more then good enough while you build the rest of your essentials to 3 and 4, and THEN you can start wasting SP on that last level to 5.
Stay strong buddy. I've learn, but if you max anything MAX CORE PG/CPU FIRST. It will make any suit run like a proto suit. But I'm at 7mil total right now including both refund and events. Over 1000 likes and only 7m sp?
I think i found your issue....
Yeah, i run an Amarr logi with a mass driver.. what are YOU going to do about it?
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
851
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:32:00 -
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Honestly, it sounds like you're playing hard but not playing smart. You can be extremely effective in just milita/standard gear, and you don't need lots of SP or isk to run suits like that.
You just have to be smarter with taking your engagements. Don't fight someone head on. You have to be smart, look around, find an unsuspecting target and take that one out. You try and rush the other team and it's not going to go well for you. It's not really a function of gear vs gear if you play smart.
Some of my funnest times I have is just running something really cheap and getting a few kills. Sure, I don't lead the WP totals at the end of the match, but I make ~100k isk or so net and I had fun while doing it. Like I said, it's playing smart and not hard.
EDIT: Or hell, just run a basic scout suit or milita light frame. You honestly DON'T need a cloak. It's a crutch that a lot of people use. Most of the kills I get while in my scout suits aren't because I decloaked and ran up on someone. It's because I laid in wait for them, saw which direction they were facing on the radar and ran up behind them. They can't see you if you're coming up behind them, cloaked or not. Also remember that most players use the radar as a crutch or a replacement for using their eyeballs. If they don't see you on the radar, then you must not exist, right?
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axis alpha
Red Star. EoN.
310
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Posted - 2014.04.15 18:36:00 -
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You gotta pace your self when leveling up. I learned this in closed beta that's why I was alot more smarter with my sp later with the respecs we went through. I have 30 mill sp and I just maxed my CPU and pg not too long ago.
As for your situation I would buy passive boosters and just grind with bpo no point in going negative with your best gear and lose isk.
We won't follow the deceiver.
You let this be your warning.
The path of the wretched is burning..
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
1910
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:00:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote: Also remember that most players use the radar as a crutch or a replacement for using their eyeballs. If they don't see you on the radar, then you must not exist, right? But that's what makes the cloak so useful. The fact that you don't come up on the tacnet hides you much more powerfully than the actual visual invisibility. Before 1.8, I would check behind me literally by spinning in a circle while staring at my tacnet minimap- if anyone was around, a dot would briefly show up from the LOS tacnet painting. The cloak means that most people quickly checking their back won't see you, visually or on the tacnet. That's huge, just huge, for scouts.
Nerdier than thou
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1102
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:25:00 -
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I have been dying a lot to militia shotguns. It looks like an inexpensive way to get kills.
Maybe make sure you have some dampening, and run around the fringes of a fight.
Also, don't neglect hacking. When I was first really getting into the game, I was able to get WP and isk from hacking undefended objectives, CRUs, and depots. Especially now that they are not able to scan everything under the sun, you can stay out of the fights and still rack up some isk.
Looking for the scout hangout?
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Fox Gaden
Immortal Guides
2939
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:29:00 -
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Figure out a fit to get by with and grinding points during the Triple Skill point event. That should get you over the hump.
Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
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2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
106
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:35:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Everything Dies wrote:If playing like a scout is making you broke, change things up and tank your Gallente scout; you'll basically have a faster, more mobile medium suit with the added bonus of an extra equipment slot. This really pays off if you have at least two different uplinks--create a cheap suit with high speed/endurance and equip the uplinks in each slot. Drop them just off of the beaten path (where they'll still be close enough for your team to advance on an objective) and you can earn an extra 30-50,000 ISK per match simply from the WP they provide. Otherwise, keep your suit under 15k and you shouldn't have any trouble turning a profit (assuming you aren't dying more than ten times per battle!) I just died a little on the inside Thats what i was thinking! 2014 & still no unlike button... |
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