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Cheydinhal Guard CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 76	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:34:00 - [1] - Quote So I have some sp laying around and I figured I need some powerful AV to take the fight to those dastardly HAVs. What should I get? Yesterday I saw a Gal commando eat a sica with his wyrkomi swarms like it was an everyday thing.... so I'm leaning towards swarms.... but I also know how strong the proto forge guns are..... "1.8 is gonna be filled with fat suits and invisible stick men" - Echo 1991
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1252	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:39:00 - [2] - Quote Forge. *Assassination is my thing.*
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 5072	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:40:00 - [3] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: So I have some sp laying around and I figured I need some powerful AV to take the fight to those dastardly HAVs. What should I get? Yesterday I saw a Gal commando eat a sica with his wyrkomi swarms like it was an everyday thing.... so I'm leaning towards swarms.... but I also know how strong the proto forge guns are..... The best AV is a TANK. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Cheydinhal Guard CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 76	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:43:00 - [4] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: So I have some sp laying around and I figured I need some powerful AV to take the fight to those dastardly HAVs. What should I get? Yesterday I saw a Gal commando eat a sica with his wyrkomi swarms like it was an everyday thing.... so I'm leaning towards swarms.... but I also know how strong the proto forge guns are..... The best AV is a TANK. I'm a terrible tanker "1.8 is gonna be filled with fat suits and invisible stick men" - Echo 1991
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1778	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:50:00 - [5] - Quote Wirykomi Swarm Launchers are pretty beast right now.. Specially with the lack of solid shield tankers on the field now. Swarm launchers Have a bonus to Armor damage and Forges have a bonus to shield damage. Swarms however are one of the most nerfed and buffed guns in the history of DUST 514. Forges are broken currently... Where every once and a while it fires blanks.... But they are and have always been the strongest AV option in the history of DUST. other then another tank that is.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1914	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:52:00 - [6] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Forges have a bonus to shield damage. This is a year long myth that needs to be stamped out. Call in an LAV, grab a militia forge, and observe your 90% damage efficiency versus shields. The Forge is a railgun hybrid, and acts accordingly. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1778	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:53:00 - [7] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: So I have some sp laying around and I figured I need some powerful AV to take the fight to those dastardly HAVs. What should I get? Yesterday I saw a Gal commando eat a sica with his wyrkomi swarms like it was an everyday thing.... so I'm leaning towards swarms.... but I also know how strong the proto forge guns are..... The best AV is a TANK. I'm a terrible tanker You really have to spend a week tanking to really understand the AV game well. Knowing all aspects of DUST makes you better at facing them and knowing their weaknesses.
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2250	Posted - 2014.04.15 00:55:00 - [8] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Wirykomi Swarm Launchers are pretty beast right now.. Specially with the lack of solid shield tankers on the field now. Swarm launchers Have a bonus to Armor damage and Forges have a bonus to shield damage. Swarms however are one of the most nerfed and buffed guns in the history of DUST 514. Forges are broken currently... Where every once and a while it fires blanks.... But they are and have always been the strongest AV option in the history of DUST. other then another tank that is. Forge is anti-armor... Also, I think you're better off with a Forge.
Duran Lex Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 708	Posted - 2014.04.15 01:06:00 - [9] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Bethhy wrote: Forges have a bonus to shield damage. This is a year long myth that needs to be stamped out. Call in an LAV, grab a militia forge, and observe your 90% damage efficiency versus shields. The Forge is a railgun hybrid, and acts accordingly. Once again Bethhy swings and misses.
keno trader Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 51	Posted - 2014.04.15 01:40:00 - [10] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Bethhy wrote: Forges have a bonus to shield damage. This is a year long myth that needs to be stamped out. Call in an LAV, grab a militia forge, and observe your 90% damage efficiency versus shields. The Forge is a railgun hybrid, and acts accordingly. Once again Bethhy swings and misses. If you intend on using AV, please watch this video (dedicated to Bethhy). *1.8* --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes. *1.8* --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.

Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 549	Posted - 2014.04.15 01:45:00 - [11] - Quote i still like forge guns myself. Unlike a swarm launcher if a stray infantryman starts closing in on my i can dispatch them with a very carefully aimed FG shot.
danthrax martin Butcher's Nails 57	Posted - 2014.04.15 01:55:00 - [12] - Quote You guys left out the importance of a spec'd up side arm for the forges if you don't have someone to help cover ya. At least with swarms on a commando you can still use your main rifle. Fatty Fat Fat gk.0 - HMG / Duvolle Noob DS Ferryman
TCP Logihoe Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 8	Posted - 2014.04.15 02:05:00 - [13] - Quote Fudge gun for a sticky happy ending
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 2771	Posted - 2014.04.15 02:22:00 - [14] - Quote I was a fan from the forgegun but with the recent bug where it shots blanks half of the time i would say go swarms. Then stick them onto a cloaked scout and you can ambush tanks and avoid infantry. Head of public relations from The Rainbow Effect.
Thumb Green THE STAR BORN 896	Posted - 2014.04.15 02:35:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: The best AV is a TANK. I'm a terrible tanker Don't have to be a good tanker, just a good ambusher. Most tankers will follow a predictable pattern so all you have to do is wait in your redline and watch the map & wait for them to get into a position you can rush up behind them and just blast away. Though multiple tanks make this harder and the tank(s) won't show on the map unless a team member can see the tank or is near it (not sure which) danthrax martin wrote: You guys left out the importance of a spec'd up side arm for the forges if you don't have someone to help cover ya. At least with swarms on a commando you can still use your main rifle. Don't really have to spec into side arms too much. I use the 1st assault SMG (I forget which tier it is) on my heavy; got plenty of hp buffer that the only real threat is another heavy or multiple enemies. Support Orbital Spawns
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 5081	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:18:00 - [16] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Cheydinhal Guard wrote: So I have some sp laying around and I figured I need some powerful AV to take the fight to those dastardly HAVs. What should I get? Yesterday I saw a Gal commando eat a sica with his wyrkomi swarms like it was an everyday thing.... so I'm leaning towards swarms.... but I also know how strong the proto forge guns are..... The best AV is a TANK. I'm a terrible tanker Dont worry, you dont need to be good. Thats the point. Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
Magnus Amadeuss Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 814	Posted - 2014.04.15 03:21:00 - [17] - Quote Cheydinhal Guard wrote: So I have some sp laying around and I figured I need some powerful AV to take the fight to those dastardly HAVs. What should I get? Yesterday I saw a Gal commando eat a sica with his wyrkomi swarms like it was an everyday thing.... so I'm leaning towards swarms.... but I also know how strong the proto forge guns are..... This depnds on a lot of things like: Do you like being a heavy? Would you rather be a medium or commando suit? How far away would you like to engage? How often will you be using non-prototype? Here is a chart to show you the damage progression of the two basic forms of weapons. The forge does more DPS, Alpha, damage, travel way faster, and have better range. Swarms have a homing function but can run into objects (quite often) and can be outran by dropships and LAVs. If you are ever going to use non prototype AV, swarms are a waste of time. Fixing swarms
Tectonic Fusion 1476	Posted - 2014.04.15 04:21:00 - [18] - Quote I use to have a viable 22k mlt assault forge gunner with a complex heavy damage mods and basic armor repper, but the damage mods suck now and forge guns are broken soooo... Solo Player Squad status: Locked
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 5106	Posted - 2014.04.15 05:23:00 - [19] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Bethhy wrote: Forges have a bonus to shield damage. This is a year long myth that needs to be stamped out. Call in an LAV, grab a militia forge, and observe your 90% damage efficiency versus shields. The Forge is a railgun hybrid, and acts accordingly. It's been a "year long" myth because for almost half that year, the Forge Gun has had its bonus incorrectly applied and been damaging shields more than armour. And before that year, while we were in closed beta, it was an anti-shield weapon and dealt more damage to shields. At that point, DUST didn't have a rule about rail weapons behind anti-armour and Blasters being anti-shield. That was introduced a couple of builds into Uprising, and as mentioned, wasn't implemented correctly on Forge Guns at first.
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 25	Posted - 2014.04.15 06:20:00 - [20] - Quote I have both on prof. 3 but at this moment I prefer swarms until CCP fix forge. QRT30 - logi QRT300 - heavy/commando Rave Technologies Inc.



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