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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 22:55:00 -
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So once upon a time I was a brand new, green merc and was deciding what I wanted to specialize in. I thought it might be cool to be a dedicated anti-vehicle player and as such I tried out the starter AV blueprint with a militia swarm launcher.
Once. Never again.
Months later I know the importance of skill points and passives. I run a Minmatar Commando (CR/MD) post-1.8 and I know that I have a damage bonus to explosives as well as a fat reload bonus. I decide it might be fun to try a swarm launcher again.
(For background, I have 3 points in my commando for +6% damage and +15% reload speed, and I always, always, always run a damage mod in my high slot. Basic, enhanced, or complex...always the best I can fit in)
So just for fun I try a militia swarm launcher and see that it's not completely laughable...mostly, but not completely. So I skill into swarm launchers to level 2 so that I can try the assault variant. I know the damage is the same, but I hate using militia weapons unless I have to, and it might be useful to need to lock onto two targets at once sometime (tankbush say what). I run a few games and find that it's not completely lackluster. In fact, it's pretty fun (I run CR/Swarms). So I drop a little bit more SP into it and start using the CBR-7.
WOW.
It feels sooooo much better than the STD level swarms. I take LAVs apart like wet tissue paper, and tanks/ADS turn and run after 2-3 hits. The added bonus of a faster reload makes a very, very big difference as well...the rate at which I can put 6-9-12 swarms in the air far, far outstrips a merc in any other suit.
Is it just me? Is it the placebo effect? Or are ADV swarms really that much better than STD? If so I'm totally going proto. And soon.
TL; DR: See the above line.
Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:03:00 -
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I knew I got an extra missile for an extra 220 damage (before damage modifiers), which obviously increases damage by 25%...but I think knowing the math and seeing it in action are so completely different in this case.
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The real placebo effect, is the Minmatar Commando. Even with Level V your still doing less damage than you possibly could in Uprising 1.7.
I had 0 points in swarms before yesterday, so I wouldn't know about that.
But as powerful as I feel with them right now I can't even imagine what it would have been like in 1.6 when the lock-on range was super-long-range (or so I've heard).
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:08:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Not entirely sure if the swarm launcher is affected by minmatar commando bonus. I thought the swarm was a Caldari weapon. Maybe I'm wrong though....
I remember thinking the same thing (because they are indeed caldari tech), but they do explosive damage and one of my regular squadmates did a "study" on it and found that the damage bonus seems to apply.
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:09:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:If you're fine with just scaring away vehicles and goin 0/5 every match go ahead and skill into them all the way, but just be aware of the circumstances meaning you'll only kill vehicles that are jokes, while being a joke to and decent vehicles.
Nah, I'm a commando. My CR is always good for a few kills 
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:12:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Hmm good to know.. Looks like my min commando is going to have some fun tonight 
My only problem is that I'll find myself in a situation where I wish I had a MD instead of swarms, and vice versa.
My CR stays attached to my hip...besides, if I run MD/swarms (which I do have such a fit) I'm tied to my nanohive and the best hives I have are K-2...so once I get proto hives maybe I'll be more comfortable running around from place to place since I can drop more of them, but until then I'd prefer to keep my CR with me.
That's one situation in which I really wish commandos could all carry 2 L weapons + 1 S.
And grenades. For the love of god CCP, GRENADES!!
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:17:00 -
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Right now I'm having wet dreams of fits with my M/1 Series Commando, Boundless CR and Wiyrkomi Swarms. Maybe my RS-90 to save PG/CPU.
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:20:00 -
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Atiim wrote:about the same as a Breach Mass Driver.
Funny story...
A missile Maddy with ~1k armor left parked himself underneath me (I was on top of a tabletop) and proceeded to open up on a friendly tank right in front of him.
He got the tank, but my Core BMD got him
Yep. I got some hatemail that match.
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:24:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:the unfortunate part is that no matter what level of launcher, suit and dmg mods you have a tripple rep madrugar is still invincable to it due to the sheer passive reps and the fact that it reps back to full HP during your 35%faster reload.
Then I'll just have to hope for a friendly forge gunner to help me out with some high alpha damage.
Atiim wrote:Don't believe the myths. If you were locking on a tower from 3-400m away, you weren't going to hit your target unless they were AFKing, or your playing on Manus Peak.
I would imagine it could make life difficult for most dropship pilots other than those of Judge's caliber, yes? Certainly harder for them than tanks.
Benjamin Ciscko wrote:If I'm bored I'll just get out of my tank and gun you down.
Unless I gun you down first then blow up your tank out of spite.
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Zaaeed Massani
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:32:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Zaaeed Massani wrote:Right now I'm having wet dreams of fits with my M/1 Series Commando, Boundless CR and Wiyrkomi Swarms. Maybe my RS-90 to save PG/CPU. You don't really need the RS-90 once you have the MinCommando up to Level III, and using the Boundless on it is just overkill XD If you really want to save CPU/PG, use Enhanced Damage Modifiers. It's only 1% less than the Complex tiers.
Well, if I'm completely forthright my gun game really isn't all that good. I routinely miss shots that I know I should hit, and lose engagements that I really should win. While I would place myself solidly in the upper-middle of the pack in terms of skill at DUST, if I got all my WP from kills and none from repping/uplinks I would still be chillin around 6M SP.
So I figure the Boundless, while costing significantly more ISK, may be that last little bit to help me win those engagements I currently lose by the skin of my teeth.
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