DUST Search - Logi dont NEED points for passive drop equipment

Bethhy wrote:

Athena Sentinel wrote:

Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics.

Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points!

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Logi's need to be rewarded constantly for being a Logi. The more you can incentivise a Logistic class to run support the better for DUST 514 as a whole.

Logistics facilitate fights in DUST 514. The intensity and the stand off's you experience in DUST is almost 90% of the time created by Logistical roles on the battlefield.

People argue that this is a first person shooter and they should be just as competent with a gun as any class.. I dont agree.

I Believe Logi's should have a natural disadvantage in Offensive abilities... But have a Large Health pool to make up for it. As the large health pool will help them stay as active support on the battlefield longer.

The more we incentivise and reward Logi's for true support of DUST 514 the better the gameplay will get as a whole.

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Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 253	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:19:00 - [1] - Quote Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points!
Crimson Cerberes Hammer Of Light Vanguard of the Phoenix 548	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:21:00 - [2] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need skill points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you skill points! Hi cloaky/SG crutcher. "We are not ever going to respec weaponry and dropsuit command because the majority of our Aurum gear falls within those
Sir Dukey KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 638	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:21:00 - [3] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need skill points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you skill points! they do get wp for that stuff...
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 253	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:22:00 - [4] - Quote Sir Dukey wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need skill points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you skill points! they do get wp for that stuff... noted* thank you
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 253	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:24:00 - [5] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need skill points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you skill points! Hi cloaky/SG crutcher. Please stay on thread topic.. I will take your post as a +1 to the thread. Thank you
pagl1u M Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn 603	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:31:00 - [6] - Quote Other suits kill enemies to win the match and get more profict. I dont think they need skill points to do this or promote doing it.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 2457	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:35:00 - [7] - Quote For all of the things wrong with this game,.. This is not one of them. Even if it's a problem, it's about as low on priority as you can get. /thread
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1911	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:41:00 - [8] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Its just teamwork and tactics. Just like shooting enemies to stop them from hacking your node. I really don't see the problem of rewarding someone for using a piece of equipment as opposed to say... REs or anything else that directly blows someone up. This promotes diversity. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
RKKR The Southern Legion League of Infamy 905	Posted - 2014.04.12 19:42:00 - [9] - Quote Probably another geezer that wants logis to not use extenders and plates while not protecting them but whines when there is no hives or uplinks,... around.
Cosgar 9180	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:15:00 - [10] - Quote Yeah, let's just remove any support related incentive for a support based class. That'll show em. Any other bright ideas while you're on this stroke of genius oh great armchair dev? Oh please, grace us with more of your brilliant analysis. This community is the nail in Dust 514's coffin, waiting to be hammered in.

Mojo XXXIII Abandoned Privilege Top Men. 0	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:43:00 - [11] - Quote Let me guess: this is a dumb-ass troll response to the "Scouts don't need Cloaks" thread?
Soldiersaint Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 834	Posted - 2014.04.12 20:48:00 - [12] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Well if thats the case then i guess assault players dont need points for kills. but i know your trolling so i will leave alone for now.
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 255	Posted - 2014.04.13 05:28:00 - [13] - Quote Soldiersaint wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Well if thats the case then i guess assault players dont need points for kills. but i know your trolling so i will leave alone for now. No one wants there style nerfed.
Cardio Therapy Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 5	Posted - 2014.04.13 06:00:00 - [14] - Quote Man, do you know the price opf a logi suit. it is way more expensive than an assault or commando. also the logi is a lot easier to die coz it is slow and underpowered. I run logi and if I don't get my WP from deploying equioment I wioll barely survive this game. I got few kills but I support my team in the best way through uplinks in the right place, nanohives that resuply and repare, and of course my ative scanner. all these cost a lot of SP and ISK. I use proto and advanced equipment. Do you gave any idea how much it costs??? My scanner is 19 000 ISK
Krixus Flux Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 187	Posted - 2014.04.13 06:03:00 - [15] - Quote Posting in one of Athena's threads. Saying what's on people's minds
General John Ripper 19897	Posted - 2014.04.13 06:05:00 - [16] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! killing enemies help the team win battles and get more profit. you dont need points for kills. Everytime I get a like, another bug is fixed.
The Headless Horseman Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 201	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:10:00 - [17] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Buy your own links then. Run your fat azz all the way from the CRU. I would MUCH rather proto stomp anyway. Signed, Sealed, Delivered
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 258	Posted - 2014.04.13 14:31:00 - [18] - Quote The Headless Horseman wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Buy your own links then. Run your fat azz all the way from the CRU. I would MUCH rather proto stomp anyway. Um than due that.. The point is someone would WANTS to play logi does not need points for passive drops. If you playing logi and would much rather play another style.. why aren't you?
rithu Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 45	Posted - 2014.04.13 16:42:00 - [19] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Thats the dumbest thing i have heard from a dust player. Who would help the team for nothing? logis dont kill they depend entirely on equipments. You cant see me caldari scouts ;)
Silas Swakhammer GamersForChrist 393	Posted - 2014.04.13 17:08:00 - [20] - Quote 2/10 troll Pineapples on pizza.

Dunk Mujunk RestlessSpirits 765	Posted - 2014.04.13 17:59:00 - [21] - Quote Hi guys, We have almost completely killed off the medium suits, but they are still flopping around a bit, so lets give them the killing blow. I'll give up logi WP when scouts give up all weapons in place of a pair of binoculars. The idiocy that 1.8/scouts have brought to this game is ridiculous, and the threads (by scouts mostly) are getting stupider by the day. Switzerland is small and neutral. We're more like Germany. Ambitious and misunderstood. Futurama
Seymor Krelborn L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1867	Posted - 2014.04.13 18:07:00 - [22] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! trust me if you take my wp away for hives and links I promise you, you want get ANY hives/links EVER from any self respected logi... this game makes me sad....
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1268	Posted - 2014.04.13 18:50:00 - [23] - Quote I actually agree, but I'd go a step further and suggest removing passive equipment entirely. Instead of nanohives, create something like the repair tool that replenishes ammo for whoever you hold the beam on. Instead of drop uplinks, have beacons that you hold, and that allow other players to drop down onto your position (similar to dropping out of the MCC). RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 259	Posted - 2014.04.14 00:05:00 - [24] - Quote R F Gyro wrote: I actually agree, but I'd go a step further and suggest removing passive equipment entirely. Instead of nanohives, create something like the repair tool that replenishes ammo for whoever you hold the beam on. Instead of drop uplinks, have beacons that you hold, and that allow other players to drop down onto your position (similar to dropping out of the MCC). Great idea man!! Risk should equal reward.. I think you should make a whole new thread on this topic! OR I will !
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1751	Posted - 2014.04.14 00:13:00 - [25] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Logi's need to be rewarded constantly for being a Logi. The more you can incentivise a Logistic class to run support the better for DUST 514 as a whole. Logistics facilitate fights in DUST 514. The intensity and the stand off's you experience in DUST is almost 90% of the time created by Logistical roles on the battlefield. People argue that this is a first person shooter and they should be just as competent with a gun as any class.. I dont agree. I Believe Logi's should have a natural disadvantage in Offensive abilities... But have a Large Health pool to make up for it. As the large health pool will help them stay as active support on the battlefield longer. The more we incentivise and reward Logi's for true support of DUST 514 the better the gameplay will get as a whole.
Athena Sentinel SOE Knights Templar 263	Posted - 2014.04.14 22:43:00 - [26] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Athena Sentinel wrote: Logi use drop equipment to help their team win to win the battle and get more profit. I don't think they need points to do this or promote doing it? Its just teamwork and tactics. Active equipment, scanners and reppers should be the things the give you points! Logi's need to be rewarded constantly for being a Logi. The more you can incentivise a Logistic class to run support the better for DUST 514 as a whole. Logistics facilitate fights in DUST 514. The intensity and the stand off's you experience in DUST is almost 90% of the time created by Logistical roles on the battlefield. People argue that this is a first person shooter and they should be just as competent with a gun as any class.. I dont agree. I Believe Logi's should have a natural disadvantage in Offensive abilities... But have a Large Health pool to make up for it. As the large health pool will help them stay as active support on the battlefield longer. The more we incentivise and reward Logi's for true support of DUST 514 the better the gameplay will get as a whole. We are now discussing how all Logi equipment should be active and give rewards.. to make it more tactical and more rewarding then passive drops. Risk should equal isk. I would be pro making the active equipment even more SP then what it is now as passive drops. AND an active drop uplink sounds wicked to me. I have 10 ways it could work... (example 1: Remote mine style) You plant it activate it when needed and it spawns in people for a given amount of time before popping. ^ with this I would also want to see more equipment carried or the ability to reload it at a supply depot.


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