The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.12 12:53:00 -
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Remove the bonus from the skill and add it to the suit.
Basic medium frames would get 2 per level bonuses from dropsuit command per level and an extra slot that was useful to their race and a stat tweak that makes them generic but powerful.
Assault medium frames would get a per level bonus from dropsuit command and one from assault per level. They would lose a slot when compared to their basic brother and the stats would be tweaked to reflect the racial play style of the suit. The loss of a slot or two would be made up with the bonus the suit receives from skill level and tweaks to stats that make them totally different from a basic but better at being an assault.
Basic suits are generic but should not be useless. With better resources (stat tweaks, CPU, PG and slots) than the specialized suit a basic could do around the same job but be better at diversifying fits to suit what is needed where as an assault would have less resources but be focused on one thing, assaulting. I would not be better in every single situation than a basic like we have now.
Here is a quick example
Basic Assault
High slot 2 2
Low slot 3 2
CPU 175 150
PG 30 35
Movement Speed 5 5.5
Sprint Speed 6.5 7.0
Shield HP 120 135
Shield recharge 17 23
Shield recharge delay 7 9
Shield recharge delay Depleted 9 10
Armor 210 190
Stamina 175 180
Stamina Recovery 18 21
Scan Profile 45 50
Scan Precision 52 45
Scan Radius 12 10
Basic would get two per level bonuses from dropsuit command to armor fitting costs and weapon fitting costs.
Assaults would get a per level bonus from dropsuit command to armor fitting effectiveness and a per level of assault skill to racial DPS.
Of course I am not a balancing expert or game designer so this is just an example but you can see that the suit is different but the assault is not just not better in every way. The extra slot on the basic could be used for to make suit perform close to a specialized assault but still be useful enough for players to use and not have to put SP into a specialization. This would put different suits on the field that were fitted differently and allow players to test out suits that they wouldn't normally because everyone would have dropsuit command trained.
Sorry for the format, I clearly don't know what I am doing.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies
Brave Collective
2307
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Posted - 2014.04.12 13:25:00 -
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m twiggz wrote:
The addition of all three of these ideas may make Assault Suits OP. I wouldn't have an idea, nor would you, until proper testing was done. Theoretically we all have separate opinions that are completely viable in our own minds, these are just a few of mine. Honestly I feel bad for Assault suits, they're in a really bad place right now. Things like this should have been figured out long ago before Dust left closed-beta. Unfortunately we are still the guinea pigs to CCPs master plan of Dust 514.
Giving assaults the same number of slots isn't a good idea. The suits should all be different and making them all the same across the board is only going to make this game even more boring and repetitive. Every suit in the same race and class should have different resources, stats and slot layouts to make them unique. That goes for basic, assault and logi in the medium class. Part of the problem we have now is that CCP painted themselves into a corner and have no way out.
The suits are too alike and the bonus is awkward and just plain out junk and moving to suit uniformity is only going to exacerbate the problem, not fix it. We have already had assaults with lots of equipment slots and it made logi suit almost useless and now we are creeping back to that state with scouts having two equipments. The scout suit needs one of the equipment slots dropped, pick a cloak or a piece of equipment not both. The point of having different suits it to make the suit different. They way we are going now everything will have 1K HP, 2 grenades and two pieces of equipment and that will ruin the game fast.
"One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production."
Raoul Duke
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