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Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Games Haven wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Games Haven wrote:

But see, their not the ones begging for fights, so maybe their QQ blitzkrieg is working.

They really don't have the will to fight anyways.

I say this because FA had two squads q-synced for Amarr FW yesterday. We ran straight into two squads of Pheonix Fed.

They quit not even halfway through the match. (Not like "Redline Sniping" quitting. We saw the names start rolling in the upper right hand corner."

Hell, Science for Death put up a better fight than they did, and thats saying something.

Well, not to burst your bubble, but in terms of people who even care about PC (which is shrinking), DNS is pretty team stacked.
Also it's a bit hard to recruit good players when you guys are paying off all the good ones.

Hopefully this will cease being an issue when 16 players+ good players can no longer dominate the majority.

DNS IS teamstacked, but that wasn't the point of my post.

That ROUND wasn't team stacked. It was 2 squads FA + Randoms vs 2 Squads PF +Randoms

They decided they didn't like losing, so they left.

WTF am I supposed to do? Quit matches if they don't give us good opposition?

My point is, people go and start whining about how "we are killing PC" and how "We don't want good fights".

You don't want a good fight either. Everyone in this game basically wants to stomp the other side, and everyone points fingers at whoever is on top of the hill.

Same with EoN, same with DNS.

It will never change.

So I might as well make some ISK and be at the top.


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Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 114	Posted - 2014.04.12 15:00:00 - [1] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Games Haven wrote: But see, their not the ones begging for fights, so maybe their QQ blitzkrieg is working. They really don't have the will to fight anyways. I say this because FA had two squads q-synced for Amarr FW yesterday. We ran straight into two squads of Pheonix Fed. They quit not even halfway through the match. (Not like "Redline Sniping" quitting. We saw the names start rolling in the upper right hand corner." Hell, Science for Death put up a better fight than they did, and thats saying something. Pfft you wish mate, you think we've got balls to spend ISK on clone packs every day attacking you but we're too scared to fight a FW? im 90% sure the scenario you describe is completely made up, but in the slight chance you actually saw our guys leaving I can guarentee its because one squad didn't make it into the Q sync, not because we didn't want to fight the one team out of the big alliance that's actually losing battles - o7 P.S. we are more than happy to take you up on you're FW challenge. CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over! Were stuck in a MH full of dicks, YET NO ONE HAS ANY BALLS?
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 115	Posted - 2014.04.12 16:59:00 - [2] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Poncho Polous wrote: Pfft you wish mate, you think we've got balls to spend ISK on clone packs every day attacking you but we're too scared to fight a FW? im 90% sure the scenario you describe is completely made up, but in the slight chance you actually saw our guys leaving I can guarentee its because one squad didn't make it into the Q sync, not because we didn't want to fight the one team out of the big alliance that's actually losing battles - o7 P.S. we are more than happy to take you up on you're FW challenge. So, you're saying that one squad didn't make it in, and they just happened to notice when they were already redlined? Seems legit. Did he say they were redlined? Or did he say it happened right away - and put emphasis on it not being a redline leave? We're more than happy to see their challenge as said before. CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over! Were stuck in a MH full of dicks, YET NO ONE HAS ANY BALLS?
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 115	Posted - 2014.04.12 17:01:00 - [3] - Quote Knight Solitaire wrote: Phoenix Federation used to recruit from my Local, just sayin', heuheuheuheu. And I used to be just a grunt here, many things change (though I never personally witnessed, participated in or condoned the idea, I've heard other say that in the past and have made sure to put a quick end to that nonsense). CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over! Were stuck in a MH full of dicks, YET NO ONE HAS ANY BALLS?
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 117	Posted - 2014.04.13 01:10:00 - [4] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Games Haven wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Games Haven wrote: But see, their not the ones begging for fights, so maybe their QQ blitzkrieg is working. They really don't have the will to fight anyways. I say this because FA had two squads q-synced for Amarr FW yesterday. We ran straight into two squads of Pheonix Fed. They quit not even halfway through the match. (Not like "Redline Sniping" quitting. We saw the names start rolling in the upper right hand corner." Hell, Science for Death put up a better fight than they did, and thats saying something. Well, not to burst your bubble, but in terms of people who even care about PC (which is shrinking), DNS is pretty team stacked. Also it's a bit hard to recruit good players when you guys are paying off all the good ones. Hopefully this will cease being an issue when 16 players+ good players can no longer dominate the majority. DNS IS teamstacked, but that wasn't the point of my post. That ROUND wasn't team stacked. It was 2 squads FA + Randoms vs 2 Squads PF +Randoms They decided they didn't like losing, so they left. WTF am I supposed to do? Quit matches if they don't give us good opposition? My point is, people go and start whining about how "we are killing PC" and how "We don't want good fights". You don't want a good fight either. Everyone in this game basically wants to stomp the other side, and everyone points fingers at whoever is on top of the hill. Same with EoN, same with DNS. It will never change. So I might as well make some ISK and be at the top. What you say just makes no sense... TPF is afraid of a good fight, so instead of Q syncing in FW where we are far more likely to win the match, we decided we would spend hundreds of millions of ISK attacking your districts? Comon now mate, if you're going to call out anyone who can be considered part of a resistance against ya'll, you should choose one that hasnt been the most vocal about their intentions / willingness to lose matches for the cause of getting just that - GOOD FIGHTS. I've notice that not so many people are complaining about DNS anymore, but now DNS feels the need to complain about the rest of the community instead? P.S. no more ''get good' nonsense, the ones who are fighting you are already working on it, no one is going to decide to start fighting because you said so, and in all honesty you end up blueing up with anyone who eventually does 'get good' and deliver you the fights you've been asking for anyways, so all of that is nothing more than jerkin ur lil e-peen off of other peoples work (obviously that doesn't apply to all of you, but a really large number it does).\ Corps like us in TPF are going to keep fighting regardless, but for many other corps out there, if you really wanted to get them involved in the game and have them step up to a higher level of competition, you would approach the situation far differently, not running around the forums like a bunch of rabies infested flame-bags. CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over! Were stuck in a MH full of dicks, YET NO ONE HAS ANY BALLS?
Poncho Polous The Phoenix Federation 119	Posted - 2014.04.13 05:07:00 - [5] - Quote ''Please point out where I said "Get Good". (The only spot I see is inferred in a sentence) My argument was simple. TPF does not seem to have the will to fight based off of what I have seen. I would never have posted this if it weren't for the scenario I saw earlier. I can respect someone who fights tooth and nail even when they can't win. I can't respect someone who tries until it gets too hard and quits, or people who hate losing so much they quit halfway through. Also, Underlined my main argument for your convenience. If the bulk of your players wanted good fights against tough opponents, 12 of your guys wouldn't have backed out in a pub. If I see a good squad on the other side, I go ALL OUT so that even if I lose, they remember the name. '' That was in no way directed at you personally, just a trend I see when people bring up legitimate points they receive similar responses from the mighty forum warriors. However, in response to your second part, Why would we continually be attacking districts where we know we are certain to face off against the most merciless players in PC if we had no will to fight? We have so much will to fight that we've tried to act as some small beacon of light to other corps with a lesser mentality to let them know there are still people fighting back and it's not too late to get involved. We were all syncing that night with 30 or so guys trying to get into matches together, and I said I was pretty certain that they didn't leave, but in order to not call you out as lying, stated that they would have left to get their other guys in the match, with a very large number of people online at once on comms it can be confusing who is in what battle at times, but I wont go into a story here, we learn from our losses we don't leave them anyone should be able to attest to that, and I don't just say it out of spite when I say we'd take you up on your FW offer, we do genuinely desire good fights. I'm honestly surprised if you havn't yet seen that for yourself, but I assure you that you'll frequent us on the battlefield, win or lose. o7. CEO > The Phoenix Federation > We da BUSSS!! We takin over! Were stuck in a MH full of dicks, YET NO ONE HAS ANY BALLS?