DUST Search - What do you think will be in 2.0?

General John Ripper wrote:

J4yne C0bb wrote:

General John Ripper wrote:

CCP TAKE OUT YOUR FAIL BATTLE ACADEMY.

Yeah, the Battle Academy sucks, I sure hope they have some better plans for it. I wanted a new alt to test with, so I created one. Joined my first match and proceeded to stomp the crap out of mercs. And I'm not even that good. Went 15-3 with 1300 WP, and blew up a tank for good measure. Most of those kills were scram pistol, cause I was using the free AV fit. One battle, and that was it for me -- back to the protostomping grounds.

And my point is not that I'm great -- cause I'm not -- my point is that the battle academy is way too short, with no explanations on how equipment/weapons/vehicles work, etc. My team spent half that match running around trying to avoid that mil tank, until I got sick of it and swapped out to the free swarm fit, and blew it pretty easily cause the pilot didn't know what he was doing either. But none of the smurfs on my side was even trying to swarm the tank -- it's like they didn't even know that weapon existed until I brought it out on the field, or that they could change fittings during a match at any depot. That kind of stuff needs to be in the academy, so noobs aren't totally clueless when they 'graduate'.

Agreed. Way too short. No explanations. Just noobs who don't know what they are doing, fighting against other noobs who also don't know what they are doing. Dust corporations haven taken over the role of tutoring new players. But not everyone uses the forums or is aware of this and most people quit. CCP needs to stop relying on us and make a real game. You cannot make a game without any type of guide on how to play. hell even pacman came with instructions....

I also don't want to see a fail giant wall of text by ccp.. I want an actual interactive tutorial. Where players can test guns they don't own. They can pick up a scrambler rifle and find out "ohhh I can charge it!!!".
or...
"ohh those blue things on the floor are nanohives? not shields? I been standing on them this whole time and still dying!"

A good tutorial and new player experience can double a noobs chances of surviving a pub stomp. Us vets already know all the tricks to these maps. We are comfortable with and efficient with out equipment. I wouldn't feel so bad stomping noobs if the noobs atleast had some sort of idea of what they are doing.

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8276	Posted - 2014.04.12 04:26:00 - [31] - Quote Gallente weaponry unsucking? My Plasma Cannon has been waiting to get some love since the very beginning. My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone. If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
JARREL THOMAS Dead Man's Game 256	Posted - 2014.04.12 04:29:00 - [32] - Quote Flying pigs that give us 200 million isk. Your welcome. :D Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits
General John Ripper 19786	Posted - 2014.04.12 05:27:00 - [33] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: General John Ripper wrote: CCP TAKE OUT YOUR FAIL BATTLE ACADEMY. Yeah, the Battle Academy sucks, I sure hope they have some better plans for it. I wanted a new alt to test with, so I created one. Joined my first match and proceeded to stomp the crap out of mercs. And I'm not even that good. Went 15-3 with 1300 WP, and blew up a tank for good measure. Most of those kills were scram pistol, cause I was using the free AV fit. One battle, and that was it for me -- back to the protostomping grounds. And my point is not that I'm great -- cause I'm not -- my point is that the battle academy is way too short, with no explanations on how equipment/weapons/vehicles work, etc. My team spent half that match running around trying to avoid that mil tank, until I got sick of it and swapped out to the free swarm fit, and blew it pretty easily cause the pilot didn't know what he was doing either. But none of the smurfs on my side was even trying to swarm the tank -- it's like they didn't even know that weapon existed until I brought it out on the field, or that they could change fittings during a match at any depot. That kind of stuff needs to be in the academy, so noobs aren't totally clueless when they 'graduate'. Agreed. Way too short. No explanations. Just noobs who don't know what they are doing, fighting against other noobs who also don't know what they are doing. Dust corporations haven taken over the role of tutoring new players. But not everyone uses the forums or is aware of this and most people quit. CCP needs to stop relying on us and make a real game. You cannot make a game without any type of guide on how to play. hell even pacman came with instructions.... I also don't want to see a fail giant wall of text by ccp.. I want an actual interactive tutorial. Where players can test guns they don't own. They can pick up a scrambler rifle and find out "ohhh I can charge it!!!". or... "ohh those blue things on the floor are nanohives? not shields? I been standing on them this whole time and still dying!" A good tutorial and new player experience can double a noobs chances of surviving a pub stomp. Us vets already know all the tricks to these maps. We are comfortable with and efficient with out equipment. I wouldn't feel so bad stomping noobs if the noobs atleast had some sort of idea of what they are doing. My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 CCP petition I'll fix the game. Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
Chayser Rautaleijona 129	Posted - 2014.04.12 06:19:00 - [34] - Quote I hope it will be finally real connection to EvE Online. We provide... VICTORY!
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 1191	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:02:00 - [35] - Quote more proto 31 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT CLICK HERE FOR ACTIVE DUST 514 YOUTUBE VIDEOS
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1272	Posted - 2014.04.12 07:38:00 - [36] - Quote full isk and SP reset, everyone starts from new. this will sort out all of the scrubs
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1132	Posted - 2014.04.12 08:00:00 - [37] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I was just thinking about how badly this game needs something new, not a new fotm but a new gamemode instead.... But anyways, my guess is a dust side only P2P market will be in 2.0 but no pve... was just wondering what other people think will be in 2.0 really. Blackjack... and hookers "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1094	Posted - 2014.04.12 08:20:00 - [38] - Quote I hope pve and/or conquest
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2302	Posted - 2014.04.12 08:43:00 - [39] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I was just thinking about how badly this game needs something new, not a new fotm but a new gamemode instead.... But anyways, my guess is a dust side only P2P market will be in 2.0 but no pve... was just wondering what other people think will be in 2.0 really. Trading and/or a market (they are two different things) will probably be announced for release within a month or two. A couple of maps and and few new items (suits, weapons, equipment and maybe a vehicle) but not many to be released within a month or two. PVE announced with release within six months (it better not be a safe farming zone, by this I mean there better be reds) but limited. Skirmish 1.0 revamped and to be released within six months. New PC mechanics to be released within three months and a new set of systems opened up within a 12 months. Medium suit tweaks announced and to be released within two months. For some reason I want to say a heavy laser AV weapon, I don't know why but I just think that a HLR will be announced. Pilot suits may or may not be discussed and if they are it will be out in around three months. Nothing huge, only things that are needed for the game to progress. No big talk at all and I would say that they will only talk about things that they seriously think they can put out in under six months. I would like to see a bounty system but I doubt it will be in any Fanfest talks. They will show some concepts but not give any kind of timeline or descriptions and they will talk about development and how they have improved performance and how they will continue to improve performance. I would say that it will be interesting but probably not any big surprises. They will announce things that will fundamentally change the game, sticking with the evolution banter but nothing that is a total surprise to anyone whom has been in the game longer than a few months and reads the forums. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2302	Posted - 2014.04.12 08:51:00 - [40] - Quote Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I was just thinking about how badly this game needs something new, not a new fotm but a new gamemode instead.... But anyways, my guess is a dust side only P2P market will be in 2.0 but no pve... was just wondering what other people think will be in 2.0 really. Blackjack... and hookers I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack. Ahh, screw the whole thing! "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke

General John Ripper 19807	Posted - 2014.04.12 09:13:00 - [41] - Quote The Robot Devil wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I was just thinking about how badly this game needs something new, not a new fotm but a new gamemode instead.... But anyways, my guess is a dust side only P2P market will be in 2.0 but no pve... was just wondering what other people think will be in 2.0 really. Blackjack... and hookers I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack. Ahh, screw the whole thing! screw the hookers too? My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 CCP petition I'll fix the game. Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
tander09 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 88	Posted - 2014.04.12 09:42:00 - [42] - Quote none, they are all scrubs... Recruiter link here: https://dust514.com/recruit/FepTs1/ Try and steal my BPOs. I dare ya. AMARRIAN4LYFE
Zetsumi Ravencroft Ultramarine Corp 35	Posted - 2014.04.12 11:05:00 - [43] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: full isk and SP reset, everyone starts from new. this will sort out all of the scrubs As well as kill the entire bloody player base. @Thread: I imagine 2.X will be the introduction of the MTAC... and then the rage and QQ will start as the rise of the Mechs begins. M.A.G - Former RAVEN
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 145	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:02:00 - [44] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: General John Ripper wrote: CCP TAKE OUT YOUR FAIL BATTLE ACADEMY. Yeah, the Battle Academy sucks, I sure hope they have some better plans for it. I wanted a new alt to test with, so I created one. Joined my first match and proceeded to stomp the crap out of mercs. And I'm not even that good. Went 15-3 with 1300 WP, and blew up a tank for good measure. Most of those kills were scram pistol, cause I was using the free AV fit. One battle, and that was it for me -- back to the protostomping grounds. And my point is not that I'm great -- cause I'm not -- my point is that the battle academy is way too short, with no explanations on how equipment/weapons/vehicles work, etc. My team spent half that match running around trying to avoid that mil tank, until I got sick of it and swapped out to the free swarm fit, and blew it pretty easily cause the pilot didn't know what he was doing either. But none of the smurfs on my side was even trying to swarm the tank -- it's like they didn't even know that weapon existed until I brought it out on the field, or that they could change fittings during a match at any depot. That kind of stuff needs to be in the academy, so noobs aren't totally clueless when they 'graduate'. Agreed. Way too short. No explanations. Just noobs who don't know what they are doing, fighting against other noobs who also don't know what they are doing. Dust corporations haven taken over the role of tutoring new players. But not everyone uses the forums or is aware of this and most people quit. CCP needs to stop relying on us and make a real game. You cannot make a game without any type of guide on how to play. hell even pacman came with instructions.... I also don't want to see a fail giant wall of text by ccp.. I want an actual interactive tutorial. Where players can test guns they don't own. They can pick up a scrambler rifle and find out "ohhh I can charge it!!!". or... "ohh those blue things on the floor are nanohives? not shields? I been standing on them this whole time and still dying!" A good tutorial and new player experience can double a noobs chances of surviving a pub stomp. Us vets already know all the tricks to these maps. We are comfortable with and efficient with out equipment. I wouldn't feel so bad stomping noobs if the noobs atleast had some sort of idea of what they are doing. I did that once before, as well. Made a new character to see what the battle academy felt like after having been "baptized" via pubstomp. My first time after graduating the battle academy I think I went 1-13. Then when I came back to the battle academy on Jaames Vega I went 27-2. I dearly hope the battle academy is overhauled and a legitimate tutorial is started up in its place. Proud Federal Marine & Republic Commando / Do you even lift?
yep derrith again Shining Flame Amarr Empire 33	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:07:00 - [45] - Quote I want to see those bomber dropships they talked about in some thread, hard for me to find, so I can't link it yet.
Tek Hound Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 243	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:16:00 - [46] - Quote QQ
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 498	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:17:00 - [47] - Quote THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I was just thinking about how badly this game needs something new, not a new fotm but a new gamemode instead.... But anyways, my guess is a dust side only P2P market will be in 2.0 but no pve... was just wondering what other people think will be in 2.0 really. Hopefully additions of new game modes. I thoroughly enjoyed 'Search and Destroy' in CoD back in the day. With all the different suit fits and modules we have in Dust those matches could be very, very interesting. I'd also like to see the player market added, I have far too many assets sitting around collecting... dust. Introduction of the infamous COMMAND NODE. Last but not least, some new territory open for PC and perhaps a PC rework. These are only hopes and dreams. As for what I think will actually be in 2.0? Perhaps some nerfs, some buffs, MAYBE a new map/socket and more false hope.
The Robot Devil Brave Bunnies Brave Collective 2307	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:32:00 - [48] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: The Robot Devil wrote: Broonfondle Majikthies wrote: THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote: I was just thinking about how badly this game needs something new, not a new fotm but a new gamemode instead.... But anyways, my guess is a dust side only P2P market will be in 2.0 but no pve... was just wondering what other people think will be in 2.0 really. Blackjack... and hookers I'll go build my own lunar lander, with blackjack and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and the blackjack. Ahh, screw the whole thing! screw the hookers too? I don't need to pay for it. I don't use hookers because I am a pimp, ask anyone that knows me in RL or my wife. They will tell you. Hookers are pointless because there is enough free out there. That is a Bender quote, I forgot to use the quotes and cite him, I will fix it. "One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production." Raoul Duke
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1674	Posted - 2014.04.12 13:49:00 - [49] - Quote Nothing, Destiny Beta will be live and this game will die, too many things wrong to keep players sticking around who want an enjoyable game. Right now only one out of four matches is enjoyable. The Traveler will save us all... CEO Whiskey squad leader You will never break my will...
Kierkegaard Soren Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 273	Posted - 2014.04.12 14:35:00 - [50] - Quote Given that Saberwing has already suggested that this year the hype will be seriously reigned in in regards to content announcements, I'd wager that we're getting the player market, PC 2.0 and then, at a stretch, the foundation of PvE laid down in a new NPE experience that does away with the battle academy. Beyond that, I can't see what else they could realistically promise the player base right now. Dedicated Commando. "He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." -Paul Atreides.

Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 122	Posted - 2014.04.12 14:57:00 - [51] - Quote Tank Nerfs, AV Buffs, Button-Pusher Biomass Bang?
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1956	Posted - 2014.04.12 14:59:00 - [52] - Quote In 2.0 I will be impressed with Rouge's execution on core FPS mechanics, or i will be gone. I support SP rollover.
LittleCuteBunny 413	Posted - 2014.04.12 15:01:00 - [53] - Quote the current forecast is that 2.0 will be the same fail 1.0 was Retired.
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 2205	Posted - 2014.04.12 15:21:00 - [54] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: In 2.0 I will be impressed with Rouge's execution on core FPS mechanics, or i will be gone. Pretty much this. So many other good games out there!
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 76	Posted - 2014.04.12 15:26:00 - [55] - Quote Spectral Clone wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: In 2.0 I will be impressed with Rouge's execution on core FPS mechanics, or i will be gone. Pretty much this. So many other good games out there! It would be awesome if Dust 514 could be a open world shooter in where you could go to any planet in eve and battle. :D If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.


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