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Eworomir Cappadocian
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:38:00 -
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-Heavys are slow becouse of all the armor and armor staking you get slower due to percentage on movment speed on your base armor speed .
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
-Assaults have a decent speed ... but the armor is useless
-Scouts are fast no mater what you do .... and you can do abou anything out of them.
Have pratically the same high and low slots as assault suits.
Have 2 equip slots (same as basic cal and amarr logistics) with no speed penalty.
Get to stack armor and take reduced speed penalty ... cus 5% on a fast based suit isnt the same as a slow one.
You get to see everything and nobody sees you.
Top regen points.
They are small shaped theyr hitbox is really small and they are fast as hell so .... really hard to kil.
If that wasnt enough .... they are invisible .... lol
No point going anything other then scout.
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:43:00 -
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Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
Get to stack armor and take reduced speed penalty ... cus 5% on a fast based suit isnt the same as a slow one.
Wrong, the higher the number, the higher the penalty, if your speed is 100 and you have 5% penalty it means that your speed is reduced by 5.if your speed is 50 and you have 5% reduction your speed is reduced by 2.5.
Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Wat? |
Eworomir Cappadocian
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:52:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
Get to stack armor and take reduced speed penalty ... cus 5% on a fast based suit isnt the same as a slow one.
Wrong, the higher the number, the higher the penalty, if your speed is 100 and you have 5% penalty it means that your speed is reduced by 5.if your speed is 50 and you have 5% reduction your speed is reduced by 2.5. Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Wat?
Dont really understand your statments but ok ....
On amor you pratically sayd the same i did.
And yes .... logis are slow. |
sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:54:00 -
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Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Yeah this bit. How much does a uplink and a nanohive weigh then?
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.11 16:56:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Yeah this bit. How much does a uplink and a nanohive weigh then?
I ve never noticed that nanohives have a speed penalty  |
Eworomir Cappadocian
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:06:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:sabre prime wrote:Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Yeah this bit. How much does a uplink and a nanohive weigh then? I ve never noticed that nanohives have a speed penalty
Its a comun sence conclusion .... you are tottaly right .... uplinks and nanohives dont weight.
Hell logistics suits are good.
But then again ---- go for scout.
For all the reasons i sayd.
Cus all you did was find on thing on my post that was wrong and destuced it all....
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:14:00 -
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You based all your post about speed, but that is not the only aspect of the game. If You Consider speed to be the most important thing of the game than... You are right: go for the scout.
But:
Sentinels : slow but with tons of ehp, good resistances, the weapon with the highest dps of the game.
Commandos: slow but a good amount of ehp, 2 light weapons with a bonus to dps and recharge time.
Logis: slow but more hp than scouts, 4 or 3 equipments, they are the support role and they do it right.
Assault: slower than scouts but with more hp and with bonuses to weapons (I think they are a bit UP btw)
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.11 17:32:00 -
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I am a scout; I get killed 50/50 by heavies and other scouts with rifles that can hit me from 50 meters away. I speed tank meaning that I cannot return fire at 50 meters; I would instadie. I cannot get more than 3 meter away from a heavy or I will die, I cannot kill a heavy even from behind with one hit, even with nova knives. So that allows heavies to have a good chance of killing me if they react quickly; of course, I ONLY GO AFTER LONE HEAVIES. NO ONE would die from me if they ran in a group of 3 - 4 guys, it would be too dangerous. Likewise, my particular set of skills does not lend itself to groups. I can hack and turn the tide of a game, but have chosen a lone wolf style of game play. If I die, I die alone without anyone near me with a needle, so most of the time I lose my suit. If you run with a squad you may die but usually can get picked up.
I never get killed by mediums and I think that is a testament that they need a buff.
However, here is the best reason NOT to run as a scout all the time, you can weigh them down with armor and give them a cloak and you will just die slow and alone. You need almost 15 mil in core skills before you have a chance as a scout against other scouts. A level 1 suit with a level 1 precision, dampening, and range are easy mode against a cal scout (which are running rampant).
VS 1 point in a heavy suit and 1 in HMG with a BPO LAV (which you can buy off a card on Amazon for 4.99) and you are a murder machine. You can spec that before you go into the academy.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:18:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
Get to stack armor and take reduced speed penalty ... cus 5% on a fast based suit isnt the same as a slow one.
Wrong, the higher the number, the higher the penalty, if your speed is 100 and you have 5% penalty it means that your speed is reduced by 5.if your speed is 50 and you have 5% reduction your speed is reduced by 2.5. Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Wat?
You'd think some people would do the math before posting Scouts are OP thread ?!
Logi's who tank armor, well they die fast... Smart logis are really thriving right now |
Yan Darn
Science For Death
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:29:00 -
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Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:-Heavys are slow becouse of all the armor and armor staking you get slower due to percentage on movment speed on your base armor speed . -Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor. -Assaults have a decent speed ... but the armor is useless -Scouts are fast no mater what you do .... and you can do abou anything out of them. not if you stack plates as you mention belowHave pratically the same high and low slots as assault suits. and? That needed to be done, remember when only commandos were more UP than us? Assaults are pretty much unsatisfactory in general at the mo, like scouts used to be. Have 2 equip slots (same as basic cal and amarr logistics) with no speed penalty. but our only equipment bonus is with cloaks - our role bonus is so vastly limited compared to other roles, if they didn't give us that slot, we would always had to choose whether to use our bonus or not - no other role needs to do that Get to stack armor and take reduced speed penalty ... cus 5% on a fast based suit isnt the same as a slow one. the error here has already been pointed out by others... You get to see everything and nobody sees you. we always could see 'everything'  (well since...1.6 was it?) it's weird to see people only bringing that up now...Top regen points. apart from that "massive" 3hp regen Gals got (our shield recharge rate was nerfed in 1.8 btw), the rest is consistent with pre 1.8 regen... They are small shaped theyr hitbox is really small and they are fast as hell so .... really hard to kil. sorry, I must of missed the bit in patch notes where they said they shrunk our hitbox and increased our speed. If that wasnt enough .... they are invisible .... lol aaaah, now that you got to the thing that actually bothers you, may I suggest you contribute to one of the many cloak...'discussion' threads?No point going anything other then scout. or heavy, logi or vehicles...
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.04.11 18:55:00 -
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Always?
You do realize that the suit was garbage for over a year right?
Bang?
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Smooth Assassin
Stardust Incorporation
IMMORTAL REGIME
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:06:00 -
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Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:pagl1u M wrote:Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
Get to stack armor and take reduced speed penalty ... cus 5% on a fast based suit isnt the same as a slow one.
Wrong, the higher the number, the higher the penalty, if your speed is 100 and you have 5% penalty it means that your speed is reduced by 5.if your speed is 50 and you have 5% reduction your speed is reduced by 2.5. Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:
-Logis are slow becouse of all the equipment... you can make some variations on the armor but its a slow based armor.
Wat? And yes .... logis are slow.
What?
Assassination is my thing.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.04.11 19:19:00 -
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Heavies: Tons of EHP and a uber HMG of death
Logis: Equipment 4 dayz and got their passive scans buffed
Scouts: speed and ewar
Assaults: need a buff <-----what needs to change |
Eworomir Cappadocian
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.12 00:31:00 -
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Yeap nothing new....
Just for the record cloaks are not my problem.
My problem is that i cant express my ideas on this forum withou being call idiot, go place my post elswere ... dont know math and such....
Hell i think Scout suits could really use a buff.
I rest my case ...
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pagl1u M
Maphia Clan Unit Unicorn
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:01:00 -
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Eworomir Cappadocian wrote:Yeap nothing new....
Just for the record cloaks are not my problem.
My problem is that i cant express my ideas on this forum withou being call idiot, go place my post elswere ... dont know math and such....
Hell i think Scout suits could really use a buff.
I rest my case ...
Now you are saying that scouts should be buffed? Ok I m confused now |
John ShepardIII
G0DS AM0NG MEN
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:20:00 -
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Assaults should get that 10% to rate of fire. Hell make it 15% :)
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The Robot Devil
Brave Bunnies
Brave Collective
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:32:00 -
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I do think scouts are pushing the boundary between them and assault a little too hard. They do seem to have have few drawbacks when compared to the drawbacks of the other suit sizes.
However, I ran with a squad today and me, an HMG and a rifle assault had not problems with scouts. They couldn't get close enough to do major damage and when they did one of us always dropped them before the could escape. I did have one match with a monster of a scout who had a shotgun and was destroying everyone on our team but he died a good bit but he did more than the lions share of killing. He was damn good 44/8 with a CreoSG.
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