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deezy dabest
CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:02:00 -
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No where did he say if AE is on your side. He said
MORTADEL0 wrote: SINCE 12th APRIL, PLEASE DONT PLAY ANY BATTLE WHERE IS A MEMBER OF ANCIENT EXILES at least during this going on!
So I believe you are the only one who did not read what OP said. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1052
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Posted - 2014.04.11 22:48:00 -
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I've never left a battle because of who is on the other side. That's simply a challenge to overcome.
That said, AFKing when paired with DNS does have a rather twisted appeal, I must say.
But I'd rather fight (with or against) any opponent straight up & let the chips fall where may.
I may not kill you, but hopefully I've weakened you, and my brothers will finish the job for we are many and unafraid. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
345
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Posted - 2014.04.11 23:05:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:This sounds like the biggest ***** I've ever met I would never leave a match because AE was in it when they are in the match I run bpo suit that way when I kill one they see that's what they died in. I see them as a great challange. They are doing what they are doing because they can. Nothing will stop that until your "pair" drops and you actually fight them in every match they are in. You want to protest? Do it with your gun *****! ^ This right here. You want DNS taken down? Do something about it, Necro, TPF and WTF have my respect as they are still fighting DNS. Red star went down, but they went down swinging, got to give them respect as well.
So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them? |
yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2014.04.11 23:16:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:This sounds like the biggest ***** I've ever met I would never leave a match because AE was in it when they are in the match I run bpo suit that way when I kill one they see that's what they died in. I see them as a great challange. They are doing what they are doing because they can. Nothing will stop that until your "pair" drops and you actually fight them in every match they are in. You want to protest? Do it with your gun *****! ^ This right here. You want DNS taken down? Do something about it, Necro, TPF and WTF have my respect as they are still fighting DNS. Red star went down, but they went down swinging, got to give them respect as well. So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them? ummm, yeah. Besides, all it was for a while was just the big dogs duking it out every time a corp nearly lost a district. If you look at it from our perspective, if we were the ones who fought for it, you know, multiple times, why shouldn't we be entitled to it? We fought for it as if it was our land, why shouldn't it be our land. |
MORTADEL0
Grupo de Asalto Chacal RISE of LEGION
243
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Posted - 2014.04.11 23:49:00 -
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Necandi Brasil wrote:We from DUST BRASIL DON'T SUPPORT THIS ! Please remove our name from the list!
We will fight, and keep fighting... No matter what the outcome will be ...
maybe u must talk with your CEO hahahah
Únete a la leyenda.
GAC
CHACALES
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Necandi Brasil
DUST BRASIL S.A Proficiency V.
865
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Posted - 2014.04.12 00:25:00 -
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MORTADEL0 wrote:Necandi Brasil wrote:We from DUST BRASIL DON'T SUPPORT THIS ! Please remove our name from the list!
We will fight, and keep fighting... No matter what the outcome will be ... maybe u must talk with your CEO hahahah
I will send him here to make an official statement
DUST BRASIL DIRECTOR
PvE and P2PM plx
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Darth Threatius
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
27
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Posted - 2014.04.12 01:44:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:This sounds like the biggest ***** I've ever met I would never leave a match because AE was in it when they are in the match I run bpo suit that way when I kill one they see that's what they died in. I see them as a great challange. They are doing what they are doing because they can. Nothing will stop that until your "pair" drops and you actually fight them in every match they are in. You want to protest? Do it with your gun *****! ^ This right here. You want DNS taken down? Do something about it, Necro, TPF and WTF have my respect as they are still fighting DNS. Red star went down, but they went down swinging, got to give them respect as well. So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them? ummm, yeah. Besides, all it was for a while was just the big dogs duking it out every time a corp nearly lost a district. If you look at it from our perspective, if we were the ones who fought for it, you know, multiple times, why shouldn't we be entitled to it? We fought for it as if it was our land, why shouldn't it be our land.
Bandwagon Derrith ftw..
This could be a picture that you could look at yet now you're wasting your time reading this.
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
639
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Posted - 2014.04.12 01:49:00 -
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Kain Spero wrote:This should make q synching against ourselves for good fights much easier! Thanks OP.
How a CPM can make statements like this I'll never know.
Even the guys in the blue doughnut can see how cancerous what they did was to the game, to NPE, and to the growth of the community.
They claim wanting good fights but AE was too afraid of Nyain to attack them. This wasn't about good fights or showing the DEVs the system was broken. It was exploiting the system and using whatever excuse at hand in order to justify it.
How things should have been:
Nyain San held the majority of land in MH. All corps and alliances fought for their districts. Ringing was done, but was frowned upon for being weak. Fights were happening constantly....good fights. Hell pull up a youtube watch some of them.
The corps would self govern and when one began taking more districts than they could handle, they would get attacked by other corps and loose said districts. Such as Nyain holding a majority of land and the other corps coming together to take some back.
Here is where it went wrong.
Instead of balancing out Molden Heath, AE jumps in Nyain's lap and begins recruiting others into a "business venture".
It wasn't clever. It wasn't out smarting anyone. It was just exploiting the fact that there was no oversight to keep it from happening.
Some oversight like maybe a CPM saying "Hey guys this is kind of a garbage way to go about this." But being smug is useful too.
Since the blue doughnut....look at how much fun PC is.
We can pickle that.
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
27
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Posted - 2014.04.12 01:50:00 -
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Darth Threatius wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:This sounds like the biggest ***** I've ever met I would never leave a match because AE was in it when they are in the match I run bpo suit that way when I kill one they see that's what they died in. I see them as a great challange. They are doing what they are doing because they can. Nothing will stop that until your "pair" drops and you actually fight them in every match they are in. You want to protest? Do it with your gun *****! ^ This right here. You want DNS taken down? Do something about it, Necro, TPF and WTF have my respect as they are still fighting DNS. Red star went down, but they went down swinging, got to give them respect as well. So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them? ummm, yeah. Besides, all it was for a while was just the big dogs duking it out every time a corp nearly lost a district. If you look at it from our perspective, if we were the ones who fought for it, you know, multiple times, why shouldn't we be entitled to it? We fought for it as if it was our land, why shouldn't it be our land. Bandwagon Derrith ftw.. Actually, they guilt tripped me into returning. But, your attempt to troll is cute. |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
4155
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Posted - 2014.04.12 03:27:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Darth Threatius wrote: Bandwagon Derrith ftw..
Actually, they guilt tripped me into returning. But, your attempt to troll is cute.
We missed his panty dropper beats, and wanted him back.
He didn't bandwagon it. He originally left because of college classes, and only rejoined a PC corp when he needed ISK to fund his Dropship addiction.
We told him we wanted him back, and that was that.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Krixus Flux
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
178
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Posted - 2014.04.12 05:13:00 -
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And yet, DNS gathered all competitive corporations under one umbrella. I get it. Not fighting against them seems chicken ****. But don't point at others who choose not to fight because isn't that what the majority of competitive corps did? Choose not to fight each other and masked it under some false holy crusade just to get a kick out of being the big guys with power.
Saying what's on people's minds
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Canari Elphus
Dirt Nap Squad.
1412
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:38:00 -
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So you are asking blueberries to remain being blueberries? Status quo has been achieved....
What this will accomplish: - Push DNS corps to move to FW which means that they will dominate yet another game mode - Make the game more of a chore for players who you are asking not to have fun playing matches where DNS squads are involved - Probably nothing as only a fraction of Dust players are active on the forums
All this really looks like is a bunch of children who are upset because they arent getting what they want and decided to throw a temper tantrum.
To echo one of Kujo's signatures, "your failure to plan ahead is of no concern to me"
Most of what is done in Dust and New Eden revolves around business decisions and what is beneficial for the corps involved. There are so many absurd claims circulating around that it becomes mind boggling.
Did you know that you can make more money by running militia suits and standard weapons/gear than most players make from PC payments? Players can make 20-25 million ISK a week running ambush with 5k ISK suits. If your corp has 100 active members then that means that you have a potential pool of 2.5 billion a week to draw from. A half decent player can even keep a decent KDR this way as well, even against proto gear squads.
CCP will never EVER be a socialist company that gives everyone a equal slice and redistribute wealth. They will give you an equal opportunity to make what you will out of the game. If something like a blue donut exists, it is because you let it happen in the first place and did nothing to try to discourage corps from joining it by offering them a better deal to join you. You have to actually have a sense of business and politics to exist within New Eden.
CPMs are not supposed to be the Mr. Rogers of New Eden. They are allowed to have in-game personalities and those personalities can be thieves, spies, and generally unlikeable. Their ability to separate those personalities from their real world ones and actually look out for the benefit of the game as a whole is what you vote on as a player. Anything said outside of the Council Chambers forum is their in-game personality. If you cannot understand that then I fear for your ability to have a healthy view of fantasy versus reality.
TL;DR - If you want to change things in New Eden, come up with a plan of how you are going to do it and work towards the resources you are going to need to do so. Do not expect players to self regulate themselves or for CCP to hold your hand. The only thing that acting like a spoiled child will do is convince people to treat you as one.
Canari Elphus for CPM1
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VALCORE72
NECROM0NGERS Caps and Mercs
132
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:54:00 -
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lol christ tis still going on lol dns has played the way it wants . hard gamblen when the dealers alrdy know whats next . its really not dns falt guys this is a ccp mess . but i do love a good strike lol LEAVE ALL MATCHS lol gl btw if you get 2000 ppl to stop playing or paying that might wake up some . ill hold my breath lol |
STYLIE77
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
156
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:24:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:
TL;DR - If you want to change things in New Eden, come up with a plan of how you are going to do it and work towards the resources you are going to need to do so. Do not expect players to self regulate themselves or for CCP to hold your hand. The only thing that acting like a spoiled child will do is convince people to treat you as one.
Is a box of "S.M.U.G." standard issue with you guys or what?
I just love all the advise given in this thread.
However, pointing out the obvious... only serves the oblivious.
GAC came up with a plan that they hope will changes things in New Eden, it even includes how to grow resources to achieve the goal. The term snowballing is really a form of Crowd Sourcing that they are hoping to utilize.
The lack of PC attacks should be the only worrying part of this plan to DNS.
Otherwise enjoy the vacation, and try to keep your playerbase off the PS4!!
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Darth Threatius
Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION
29
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Posted - 2014.04.12 17:32:00 -
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So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them?[/quote] ummm, yeah. Besides, all it was for a while was just the big dogs duking it out every time a corp nearly lost a district. If you look at it from our perspective, if we were the ones who fought for it, you know, multiple times, why shouldn't we be entitled to it? We fought for it as if it was our land, why shouldn't it be our land.[/quote]
Bandwagon Derrith ftw.. [/quote] Actually, they guilt tripped me into returning. But, your attempt to troll is cute.[/quote]
Ok corp hopper.
One day you may be able to think for yourself. Until then enjoy being a puppet.
This could be a picture that you could look at yet now you're wasting your time reading this.
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yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2014.04.12 18:47:00 -
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Darth Threatius wrote:
Ok corp hopper.
One day you may be able to think for yourself. Until then enjoy being a puppet.
Wow, I don't even know what keeps me replying to you. You haven't done anything noteworthy, or even in a PC as I've seen, since PX1 wiped you off the first time. I really should stop, as you clearly have no idea what you're spewing and wouldn't be willing to back it up if you were called to, so I guess I'll leave you with whatever your response is going to be here, and I'll go back to listening to my panty dropper songs. With that, I now bid you, hopefully for the final time, adieu. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
1870
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Posted - 2014.04.12 22:56:00 -
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im just going to leave this here
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2037005#post2037005
Not fighting your own battles was how this whole catastrophie started in the first place.
everyone lost MH becuase they kept using the DNS corps to fight for them every time oen of the districts was about to flip.
it seems to me that commiting to the same actions (refusing to fight when it counts) will not really help matters but only make them worse.
I suggest learning from your actions rather then repeating them if you want to solve the problem. |
RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
648
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Posted - 2014.04.12 23:36:00 -
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Canari Elphus wrote:
TL;DR - If you want to change things in New Eden, come up with a plan of how you are going to do it and work towards the resources you are going to need to do so. Do not expect players to self regulate themselves or for CCP to hold your hand. The only thing that acting like a spoiled child will do is convince people to treat you as one.
Trying to justify it make you look like a tool.
Does DNS pay you to look like an idiot or do you take it upon yourself to do so?
We can pickle that.
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Yokal Bob
The Phoenix Federation
456
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Posted - 2014.04.13 01:03:00 -
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*facepalm* this thread is still going on?
CPM1 candidate
I want my logi tank back
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RemingtonBeaver
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
648
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Posted - 2014.04.13 01:29:00 -
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Yokal Bob wrote:*facepalm* this thread is still going on?
No. It is not. Please go away.
We can pickle that.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
484
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Posted - 2014.04.13 03:13:00 -
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MORTADEL0 wrote:Hi folks!
Since a little time, most of the major and strongest Corporations have come together into the same alliance (Dirt Nap Squad), making of Molden Heath an exclusion zone for the rest of Corporations, with out fighting between them, and un-respecting the pact that had been since the beginnings of planetary conquest in Oddelulf that was recently extended to Bosena.
htto://www.dustcharts.com/moldenheath
This makes that almost no planetary conquest battles are being played, many Corporations canGÇÖt practice, and the Corporations from Dirt Nap Squad can make ISK easily, than latter they use to pay for prototype suits and weapons in public games, making very rust rating and boring almost all modalities of play within the game.
It-¦s possible to conquer them a district or two, but the level they have makes almost impossible to defend them in long terms, no because they canGÇÖt be defeated in battle, but because the economical warfare will be lost standing the economically strongest all together.
The RESULT = Gamers get bore! lack of resources and training for middle and big corporations that are not in the mentioned alliance, that will lead to gamer leaving the game because it losses its sense.
What can I do?
We want to propose to all the players don-¦t play with ANCIENT EXILES, in any FW, Public or PC battles! Keep doing that until that Corp leaves its alliance. Its been decided that because of the number of players, time schedule and importance of the Corp into that alliance.
It must be clear that no one of the Corporations that support this initiative have no bad intentions against AE or any of its player in particular, they have wonderful and not such wonderful people like everywhere, but if this is a game we should have fun all, been the normal thing than the must powerful have moreGǪ but not all! and without fighting!?!?!?
This is why Corps and player behind GÇ£Snow ballGÇ¥ ask all DUST 514 community SINCE 12th APRIL, PLEASE DONT PLAY ANY BATTLE WHERE IS A MEMBER OF ANCIENT EXILES at least during this going on!
Corps and Players that support this are:
ROFL (GAC, KEQ, Onslaught Inc, UPS, etc.) and Chacales, WTF, Valor Coalition, Maphia, Rebelion Ltd, Vacuum Cleaner LLC, LK, Dust Brasil and players from others corps as MiBO.
It's your turn to grow Snowball!!!
The corps listed seem to play cheaper than the ones they want to boycott. I have no idea how being a quitter hurts the other side but I don't find it surprising that people think they can blackmail people into not doing what they themselves would do.
I think DPS should open up a few districts for people to play with, it won't hurt them. I don't buy the idea they are forcing CCP hand.
Because, that's why.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
350
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Posted - 2014.04.15 11:51:00 -
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yep derrith again wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:This sounds like the biggest ***** I've ever met I would never leave a match because AE was in it when they are in the match I run bpo suit that way when I kill one they see that's what they died in. I see them as a great challange. They are doing what they are doing because they can. Nothing will stop that until your "pair" drops and you actually fight them in every match they are in. You want to protest? Do it with your gun *****! ^ This right here. You want DNS taken down? Do something about it, Necro, TPF and WTF have my respect as they are still fighting DNS. Red star went down, but they went down swinging, got to give them respect as well. So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them? ummm, yeah. Besides, all it was for a while was just the big dogs duking it out every time a corp nearly lost a district. If you look at it from our perspective, if we were the ones who fought for it, you know, multiple times, why shouldn't we be entitled to it? We fought for it as if it was our land, why shouldn't it be our land.
Eh?
Your response to my question makes no sense.
Too many scrub corps hiding behind the DNS petticoats - if you all hadn't blued up AE, NS and ERA would have wiped you all out of PC - then again.... it's not like these scrub corps actually have any land - so beat your chest about your alliance, but AE/NS/ERA don't seem to trust you to control a district. |
yep derrith again
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
81
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Posted - 2014.04.15 12:25:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:yep derrith again wrote:Al the destroyer wrote:This sounds like the biggest ***** I've ever met I would never leave a match because AE was in it when they are in the match I run bpo suit that way when I kill one they see that's what they died in. I see them as a great challange. They are doing what they are doing because they can. Nothing will stop that until your "pair" drops and you actually fight them in every match they are in. You want to protest? Do it with your gun *****! ^ This right here. You want DNS taken down? Do something about it, Necro, TPF and WTF have my respect as they are still fighting DNS. Red star went down, but they went down swinging, got to give them respect as well. So do you have any respect for the corps who joined DNS because they knew they couldn't fight against them? ummm, yeah. Besides, all it was for a while was just the big dogs duking it out every time a corp nearly lost a district. If you look at it from our perspective, if we were the ones who fought for it, you know, multiple times, why shouldn't we be entitled to it? We fought for it as if it was our land, why shouldn't it be our land. Eh? Your response to my question makes no sense. Too many scrub corps hiding behind the DNS petticoats - if you all hadn't blued up AE, NS and ERA would have wiped you all out of PC - then again.... it's not like these scrub corps actually have any land - so beat your chest about your alliance, but AE/NS/ERA don't seem to trust you to control a district. I can totally agree with your claim that there are corps in DNS hiding behind the big boys, heck I could even call out a few. I won't, but I could. FA held it's ground from what I was told from the bench against ERA, and RA for at least a good weak before they got the offer to fold. And DNS has actually given us the opportunity to hold land. FA recently flipped a PX1 district on their own wallet with clone packs (I wasn't there I don't fight PX1), I believe Kain said we could keep the district, yet Zatara refused.... vehemently.
Again, I'll agree with you on the weaker corps in DNS hiding behind the big dogs. But the fact of the matter is, that the ratio of corps outside to inside the alliance hiding behind the big boys was much larger on the outside than it was in.
I'd like to see a PC revival with a lot of new corps, but the fact of the matter is that, if you looked at the starmap before all this, the only corps that held land were corps that did nothing but call in other corps to fight their own fights. Ask yourself why should people own land if they aren't willing to fight for it? |
demens grimwulff
Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad.
212
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:22:00 -
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Because QQ Derrith. Q f'ing Q.
People want to feel special and show they did something... but they never want to put in the work for it. Easier to pay someone than to life a finger to do it yourself...
As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
6756
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Posted - 2014.04.15 19:33:00 -
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This thread is so full of fail...
I don't even know how to approach it.
#LivingLikeLarry
[s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through
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