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burning powers Algintal Core Gallente Federation 17	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:55:00 - [1] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be.
Burntface man112 Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 143	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:03:00 - [2] - Quote burning powers wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be. gaylock... Never again... Thank god.
Gunner sclor Intara Direct Action Caldari State 21	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:04:00 - [3] - Quote burning powers wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be. The one weapon and tactics that nearly drove me from dust 514. that was rough months.
H1sen Burg Ametat Security Amarr Empire 30	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:06:00 - [4] - Quote Gunner sclor wrote: burning powers wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be. The one weapon and tactics that nearly drove me from dust 514. that was rough months. This weapon was really like that, dude where was I during that time period? Assault rilfles seemed pointless against this weapon. He used it in all ranges of combat.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2468	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:20:00 - [5] - Quote Yes I remember this. Itmhad something ridiculous like 150 splash 280 direct damage and a blast radius that rivaled the Mass Driver. The nerf was deserved, but good old CCP whacked it with nerf bat so hard its been on life support ever since. Bring back CCP, it needs some drastic help. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
LudiKure ninda DROID EXILES General Tso's Alliance 84	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:20:00 - [6] - Quote Love it <3 Solo player.. SCAN ATTEMPT PREVENTED!
Jack Kittinger Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 210	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:44:00 - [7] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Yes I remember this. Itmhad something ridiculous like 150 splash 280 direct damage and a blast radius that rivaled the Mass Driver. The nerf was deserved, but good old CCP whacked it with nerf bat so hard its been on life support ever since. it makes you wonder... who thought it was a good idea to make it OP? and then make it irrelevant?? it's one of the multiple signs of thing to come Proud winner of the 'Templar BPO Raffle' by Castor Crave!! Lucky Number 29
Awry Barux Ametat Security Amarr Empire 1748	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:50:00 - [8] - Quote TBH it wouldn't be overpowered if you brought it back to the old stats now that hit detection actually works. The guy in that video could easily have gotten all of those kills using any of the full-auto bullet hoses in 1.8. Also, that video was 90% against MLT suits. All the flaylock butthurt was just the product of broken hit detection that made non-explosive weapons all but useless. Nerdier than thou
Rusty Shallows 1478	Posted - 2014.04.10 17:55:00 - [9] - Quote The biggest problem with the Flaylock was other direct fire weapons weren't registering hits. CCP spent most of that year improving game performance. Even the HMG didn't get its fix until December. Practically everything else getting range boosts didn't help. The Flaylock will make a comeback someday when the Devs have a chance to monkey with homing rounds. Edit: Awry beat me to it. Forums > Game: So here is a cookie and a Like. Please keep posting. Bwahahahahahahahahahaha! >>> GòÜ(GÇóGîéGÇó)Gò¥ >>>
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6549	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:18:00 - [10] - Quote Take away the arc and splash damage, then nerf the ROF and you have yourself a Bolt Pistol. #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND

Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 6549	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:21:00 - [11] - Quote Awry Barux wrote: TBH it wouldn't be overpowered if you brought it back to the old stats now that hit detection actually works. The guy in that video could easily have gotten all of those kills using any of the full-auto bullet hoses in 1.8. Also, that video was 90% against MLT suits. All the flaylock butthurt was just the product of broken hit detection that made non-explosive weapons all but useless. Maybe it's because I was a Masshole back then, but I didn't really have a problem with Flaylock Pistol users back then. Honestly I didn't really consider anything to be OP (though AV did need a slight adjustment) until 1.4 when the TTK went to hell. #LivingLikeLarry [s]Text[/s] <-------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
Egonz4 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 210	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:30:00 - [12] - Quote burning powers wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be. RIP.....now it's the worst weapon in the game BORN CALDARI
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1734	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:34:00 - [13] - Quote Did you ask why the weapon Was OP? was it simply just everything about it? Not. Flaylock explosions where triggering Headshot Damage Multipliers... Same problem that plagued Core Locus grenades. Flaylock then got it's damage nerfed. It's Blast Radius Nerfed, It's direct Damage nerfed. And the Amount of ammo carried nerfed. 4 Nerfs for a Problem that CCP created themselfs. This is the problem with DUST's community right here... Most of them are freaking morons that haven't a clue whats actually going on.
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2471	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:57:00 - [14] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Did you ask why the weapon Was OP? was it simply just everything about it? Not. Flaylock explosions where triggering Headshot Damage Multipliers... Same problem that plagued Core Locus grenades. Flaylock then got it's damage nerfed. It's Blast Radius Nerfed, It's direct Damage nerfed. And the Amount of ammo carried nerfed. 4 Nerfs for a Problem that CCP created themselfs. This is the problem with DUST's community right here... Most of them are freaking morons that haven't a clue whats actually going on. Umm no, IF that's even true, it only contributed a small amount to the OPness of the weapon. It is effectively a smaller version of the Mass Driver, yet it had better Splash and Direct DPSs a wide enough blast radius to match the Mass Driver, lower travel, flatter projectile Arc, unerring accuracy, faster ROF, enough rounds per mag to finish of most suits, lower nanohive consumption, and still allowed you to carry a ligjt weapon. The headshot multiplers for most weapons is only 30-50%, if the damage of the Flaylock hadn't been so powerful to begin with that wouldn't even have been that much of problem. It also doesn't explain where CCP said the flaylock was doing this, or where they said they fixed it. The flaylock (standard variant needs to be equivalent to an Assault Mass Driver with a Breach Mass Drivers blast radius (Maybe a little more) So about 80/88/97 Splash Damage 2.25/2.5/2.75 Splash Radius 120/132/145 Direct Damage or somewhere around there anyway. Enough to hit something with splash and do moderate damage. Unless your a Computer Scientist don't tell me how Game Mechanics Work. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl 2.
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 4670	Posted - 2014.04.10 19:22:00 - [15] - Quote Yknow what would be sweet? If it was reliable like that again. Flaylock needs to be able to kill someone in one clip. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 2001	Posted - 2014.04.10 19:59:00 - [16] - Quote i miss my old flaylocks but seriously, it wasn't everything about it that was OP, and to those who said it had splash radius that rivaled the MD, it didn't. at proto, it had about a 2.50m splash radius, with around roughly 200 to 210 spash and 200 to 250 direct. the damage may have been a bit too high, but the splash radius nerf wasn't needed. perfect example of CCP overnerfing a potentially very balanced weapon. Anime > EVERYTHING
LittleCuteBunny 411	Posted - 2014.04.10 20:02:00 - [17] - Quote Dual Flaylocks were OP Retired.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 152	Posted - 2014.04.10 20:08:00 - [18] - Quote I run the flaylock as my side arm and it is AWESOME. I actually believe it is still a bit OP. I can't tell you how many times I throw a grenade and shoot 3 shots into a group of people hacking a null and just dominate. I love the flaylock. It needs no changes. If people don't like it then that is their problem.
Radar R4D-47 0uter.Heaven 594	Posted - 2014.04.10 20:08:00 - [19] - Quote Used to go 30+ and 0 with my dual flaylock fit. As of this build my best so far is 25 and 3. Its back. :) Stats are still the same as 1.7 but for some unknown reason I can kill people again. Next PC I will do my best to use the fit religiously.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1373	Posted - 2014.04.10 20:48:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: Take away the arc and splash damage, then nerf the ROF and you have yourself a Bolt Pistol. Also lower the damage and range

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 9424	Posted - 2014.04.10 21:00:00 - [21] - Quote burning powers wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be. Is this supposed to be proof that it doesn't need a buff? Your argument is unconvincing. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Smooth Assassin Stardust Incorporation IMMORTAL REGIME 1193	Posted - 2014.04.10 21:07:00 - [22] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Yknow what would be sweet? If it was reliable like that again. Flaylock needs to be able to kill someone in one clip. They do, but they can't do ** with that damn tight radius (nova knives have more range than that). Assassination is my thing.**
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 208	Posted - 2014.04.11 05:14:00 - [23] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Yknow what would be sweet? If it was reliable like that again. Flaylock needs to be able to kill someone in one clip. I agree but I disagree if its splash damage killing. Especially since the weapon can have 8 round clips with the assault mimatar suit. 1 direct shot and 2 splash damage hits should take out a standard suits.
Minor Treat The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 208	Posted - 2014.04.11 05:18:00 - [24] - Quote True Adamance wrote: burning powers wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-45RspYrxw This video reminds people of how stupidly over powered this weapon use to be. Is this supposed to be proof that it doesn't need a buff? Your argument is unconvincing. I think he simply post a video to provide we should avoid buffing the flaylock to its previous iteration. Probably bring back its splash damage radius but leave its overall damage as it is now. I won't lie that weapon damn near drove me off the game when everyone and their mother started to use it on its final month.
MarasdF Loron Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 367	Posted - 2014.04.11 06:16:00 - [25] - Quote Minor Treat wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Yknow what would be sweet? If it was reliable like that again. Flaylock needs to be able to kill someone in one clip. I agree but I disagree if its splash damage killing. Especially since the weapon can have 8 round clips with the assault mimatar suit. 1 direct shot and 2 splash damage hits should take out a standard suits. 3*1.25=8? Get your math right. I think the highest it can get to is 4, but if it's not rounded up then it's still 3. R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
jerrmy12 kahoalii 940	Posted - 2014.04.11 06:17:00 - [26] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Minor Treat wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Yknow what would be sweet? If it was reliable like that again. Flaylock needs to be able to kill someone in one clip. I agree but I disagree if its splash damage killing. Especially since the weapon can have 8 round clips with the assault mimatar suit. 1 direct shot and 2 splash damage hits should take out a standard suits. 3*1.25=8? Get your math right. I think the highest it can get to is 4, but if it's not rounded up then it's still 3. Its 4, I saw the vid, it had 4 Closed beta vet Tears, sweet delicious tears
Lynn Beck Wake N' Bake Inc Top Men. 1091	Posted - 2014.04.11 06:50:00 - [27] - Quote I hate this community's utter and supreme hate of Flaylocks. "It was once so ridiculously OP, so now we want you to have wasted SP, never to be useful again." "CCP would just buff it to enormous levels again, so leave well enough alone" ** you. Every single person who believes the current flaylock is "Still Op" and "still deserves a nerf" How about that Laser HUH?! It was once SO OP that you had 2 guys on a roof melt the entire map. It justgot a buff. Why isn't anybody complaining their asses off that a once ridiculously OP weapon is about to, or is bein talked about, being buffed!? Mass drivers used to outkill AR's in CQC, now they've been buffed. Are they still raping AR users in CQC? NO! It's a balanced ***** weapon. Buff the damned flaylock. Edit: and that guy was landin direct hits on the guys he killed from full HP to none. The rest were killsteals or splash against mlt suits with PROTO. General John Ripper is my 2nd best friend!
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1124	Posted - 2014.04.11 07:25:00 - [28] - Quote I use the flaylock on my assault suit. Gotta say I hate it when I have to rely on it if my primary is out of ammo. Its only slightly better going around meleeing people. I am cautious of bringing it back to its former glory. The splash was a little severe. But it does need some serious love. To those saying 'its only a sidearm' I will just say, ALL sidearms should be deadly when used within their perfect environment. Even the Ion is beastly when skilled up and in the right range. The Bolt and Scram pist is monsterously powerful in the right hands. The flaylock? a Proto flay to any militia fit takes the entire mag with all direct shots, some of which may not register. Compared to the Bolt - 135 damage per shot, total 810 damage per mag, Basic varient. More forgiving damage model. Flaylock takes sidearm op 3 as well to unlock "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Broonfondle Majikthies Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day 1125	Posted - 2014.04.11 07:33:00 - [29] - Quote MarasdF Loron wrote: Minor Treat wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Yknow what would be sweet? If it was reliable like that again. Flaylock needs to be able to kill someone in one clip. I agree but I disagree if its splash damage killing. Especially since the weapon can have 8 round clips with the assault mimatar suit. 1 direct shot and 2 splash damage hits should take out a standard suits. 3*1.25=8? Get your math right. I think the highest it can get to is 4, but if it's not rounded up then it's still 3. You haven't seen the latest Dev blog? we don't get explosive weapon clip increase. When the assault suit had a general sidearm bonus it was 4 shots, but only at proto level, and it still made the pistol terrible. "...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
Pvt Numnutz R 0 N 1 N 1081	Posted - 2014.04.11 07:42:00 - [30] - Quote Shame he didn't shoot at any dropships, now that was funny.



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