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lunatis orrak
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:42:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:More slots on the Assault doesn't change the fact that the suit still does nothing better than any other suit. Commandos are the best damage dealers, logistics are the best equipment/support guys, Scouts are the best stealthy/speedy guys, Sentinels have a huge amount of EHP and can use Heavy Weapons, and Assaults are just kind of there. They need something that says "I am better at you at X but you are better than me a Y." At the moment, it is just "I can kill people" and everyone else says "I can kill people and I can do something else no one else can."
Assaults were made to be best all around able to switch task and perform it better than any other class other than the class specializing in that field that is the assault class's purpose.
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lunatis orrak
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:18:00 -
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Joseph Ridgeson wrote:lunatis orrak wrote:Joseph Ridgeson wrote:More slots on the Assault doesn't change the fact that the suit still does nothing better than any other suit. Commandos are the best damage dealers, logistics are the best equipment/support guys, Scouts are the best stealthy/speedy guys, Sentinels have a huge amount of EHP and can use Heavy Weapons, and Assaults are just kind of there. They need something that says "I am better at you at X but you are better than me a Y." At the moment, it is just "I can kill people" and everyone else says "I can kill people and I can do something else no one else can." Assaults were made to be best all around able to switch task and perform it better than any other class other than the class specializing in that field that is the assault class's purpose. That doesn't really work with what the game has given us though. The Non-Specialist serves no point. The Specialist can still do what an Assault does, even if the Assault was meant to be all around decent at stuff, just as good as they can. An Assault can move across the field at a medium speed; so can a Logistics but a Logistics is also carrying a Spawn Pad and Repair Tool. An Assault can kill people with light weapons; so can every other suit in the game and also have some specialized ability they can do. I have 4 levels in Caldari Assault. Those skills would be, simply put, better spent on Logistics because it would do the same thing as my Assault but bring something more to the table. The only reason I have that many points is because I like to use my 'Raven' suit. I remember back to Battlefield 2. The Assault didn't have as good of a range as a special forces guy nor the satchel explosives but the Assault had the grenade launcher and a bullet-resistant vest that meant they could take more punishment. Assaults need something like the rifle grenade launcher ('noob tube') or any kind of thing where you go "THAT is what they are good at." As it stands, there is a smaller gap between Assaults and Frames than any other suit and their respective Frame. Scouts get the Cloak, Sentinels get the EHP, Commandos get the damage and second weapon, and Logistics can actually exist as they get the added equipment slots. Assaults get a minor change in their CPU/PG and a bonus to a racial weapon that are not in line with the others. Amarr gets a bonus that helps them shoot more, Minmatar get a bonus that helps them shoot more, Gallente get a bonus that make hipfire more accurate, and Caldari reload weapons faster. There is no focus in these bonuses.
You need to take into account the suits hitbox as well logis are horrible and rightfully so i mean someone could throw a brick a foot away from us and it would still hit me aka that damn rail rifle lol Assaults are smaller and honestly that is a play style that is shunned for good reason you must have a good all around skill to use it this game promotes specialisationnot the run and gun antics some people expect the suit to be made for this is a team game do me a favor and witness for yourself . Before you reply try this and let me know how it works for you grab a coulpe of your buds in a squad have everyone throw on a assault with a different peice pf epuipment run a match never breaking more than 50 meters from each other (dom) and let me know what you think
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lunatis orrak
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:36:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logis are a good suit, and do their job well. Assaults are currently THE lacklustre suit in the game.
The problem is that Assaults are meant to be the adaptable suit on the field, and Logis fill that role AS WELL AS being the equipment stacking suits.
Logis should lose 1 - 2 module slots, but gain HP (a decent amount) in exchange.
Assaults should gain an extra slot or 2, and the PG and CPU to use them.
Logis do not fit this role they do not adapt from the support position there made for think of it like this logis have no stand alone strength yes everyone gets lucky and catches soneone with there pants down but it is not consistent think of it like a ring of ranges logis and heavys have the smallest rings not being to capable of breaking away from the bulk of the team without getting messed up assaults have a little leeway a bigger ring if you will they can go so far away from the team to fight without becomeing to to overwhelmed scouts have no ring they go where they want preferably picking at the edges of the enemy linethis game isnt all aboit going out and killing its about going out and killing then getting back to your team before you get messed up i have seen no s on the chest of any suit in this game
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lunatis orrak
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Posted - 2014.04.10 23:53:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:lunatis orrak wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:Logis are a good suit, and do their job well. Assaults are currently THE lacklustre suit in the game.
The problem is that Assaults are meant to be the adaptable suit on the field, and Logis fill that role AS WELL AS being the equipment stacking suits.
Logis should lose 1 - 2 module slots, but gain HP (a decent amount) in exchange.
Assaults should gain an extra slot or 2, and the PG and CPU to use them. Logis do not fit this role they do not adapt from the support position there made for think of it like this logis have no stand alone strength yes everyone gets lucky and catches soneone with there pants down but it is not consistent think of it like a ring of ranges logis and heavys have the smallest rings not being to capable of breaking away from the bulk of the team without getting messed up assaults have a little leeway a bigger ring if you will they can go so far away from the team to fight without becomeing to to overwhelmed scouts have no ring they go where they want preferably picking at the edges of the enemy linethis game isnt all aboit going out and killing its about going out and killing then getting back to your team before you get messed up i have seen no s on the chest of any suit in this game I need to show you an armor tanked Gal Logi or a dual tanked Caldari Logi or as I like to call him good ol' 9 slots.
Yes you are correct they are nice but still with my ring explanation being a stronger logi only increases your ring range i know i have tanks also lol but still you get to far out you will struggle to get out and theres no pain like getting mowed down by a militia after fighting off 5 advandced suits
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