DUST Search - The A.E. 128 Million ISK Challenge - Part 2 The Attack of the Red Do...

Ripley Riley wrote:

I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here. Your grammar is really hard to decipher, but I think you are trying to ask me if AE has done something to me personally. No, I don't game with them. I just know they control massive amounts of PC and PC has been, and continues to be, a way to make passive ISK in Dust without much effort at all. That goes against New Eden's "Low risk = low reward, high risk = high reward" mantra.

They shouldn't stop playing Dust, just get out of PC. Do you have to put words in people's mouths when you don't have an argument to speak of?

"Not corp could make profits from FW and Random battle"... Wow. What the **** are you going on about?

After re-reading this, I think you are trying to say that corps can make ISK in FW and public contracts too. You aren't wrong, but in those games modes the amounts of ISK are IN NO WAY similar proportions and you know it.

A.) PC =/= competitive. It's a passive way to accumulate ISK. Look up R&D in Eve Online; it's like that.
B.) You are projecting your own insecurities really hard right now. I just wanted to make you aware.

I strongly dislike the state of PC and that makes me a poor leader? Again, I think you are projecting your own insecurities on someone else. Maybe you wish you had the drive to stand up to your PC masters, but you can't? That's my guess.

What the **** is a hurt feeling report?

Also, I never claimed to be diamond tier MLG uber gamer. I just know a broken system when I see one.


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TERMINALANCE 295	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:08:00 - [1] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Better than nothing right? No. Man reading your comments, how do you have that much sand in your vaj? maybe you should play a game where having the best players in the largest organized pool does not over time give you the most successful results. I have never heard so much butthurt from someone. Seriously in exactly what world would you beat them? how desperately crafted would a PC have to be designed to even give you and your corp a hope in hell of actually being a threat to them. 1. You dont have the players 2. You dont have the skill 3. You ob dont have the drive or even the willpower to do the hardwork to get 1&2 4. You lack any sort of personal responsibility, have you ever even stepped up in PC? tech by you sitting on the sidelines stuffing fresh sand into your vaj your exactly the reason there is a blue donut 5. If your discouraged now it means you will always be because you will always make excuses Your telling me you cant hold 1 district from AE every 2 days? if you cant do that you have no place in this games competitive scene but I guess you know that and that is why you sit on the sidelines.
TERMINALANCE 295	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:22:00 - [2] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: But the opportunity to win 4 million per player is certainly worth something. You act as it there is absolutely nothing to gain...which is wrong. They get experience fighting top tier teamwork. They get experience improving their own teamwork and skill. And they get the chance of winning and getting isk. And to top it all off... They get bragging rights! If you ask me, there's more to gain then there is to lose "Experience top tier teamwork" = stomping your face in to the point of absurdity. "Chance of winning and getting ISK" = that chance is incredibly small and just encourages AE and other PC corps to continue sucking on PC's tit. "Bragging rights" = bragging because... they won in a fight against a PC corp? You must brag for completely different reasons that I do. Anyone who voluntarily joins these matches is essentially dancing for your entertainment. Like fat greedy lords chucking gold at peasants because they like seeing the bruises the heavy coins make. Better then you, the small man whining in the corner to anyone who will listen about how hard done by you are. Awwww did AE hurt you? Should they be sorry that they set the bar in any game mode? Should they stop playing because it hurts your feelings? But your right isk is SOOOOO hard to come by....... not corp could make good profits from FW and random battle...... Anyone who joins any match is dancing for the better players entertainment. Fighting them in the back alley or in Caesars palace its gonna end the same way. Maybe some players like the competitiveness? not everyone goes to sleep crying at night because someone was mean to them in a videogame, reevaluate your life princess. I hope your not in a pos of power in your corp, you have a shite attitude and deserve your lack of gains with the poor leadership you must display. Feel free to file more hurt feeling reports though because whining is the only way you know how to improve things for yourself. And that is probably why your on the bottom looking up.
TERMINALANCE 295	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:32:00 - [3] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: Snip Keep talking and maybe your PC masters will give you more scraps and a nice pet on the head I did not realize you where owed something for just breathing there down syndrome. I always thought you had to fight for your seat at the table. Not complain that someone has to wipe your ass for you to get out of bed in the morning and maybe do something to improve your own situation. Fact is your a scrub who cant play
TERMINALANCE 295	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:54:00 - [4] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here. Your grammar is really hard to decipher, but I think you are trying to ask me if AE has done something to me personally. No, I don't game with them. I just know they control massive amounts of PC and PC has been, and continues to be, a way to make passive ISK in Dust without much effort at all. That goes against New Eden's "Low risk = low reward, high risk = high reward" mantra. They shouldn't stop playing Dust, just get out of PC. Do you have to put words in people's mouths when you don't have an argument to speak of? "Not corp could make profits from FW and Random battle"... Wow. What the ** are you going on about? After re-reading this, I think you are trying to say that corps can make ISK in FW and public contracts too. You aren't wrong, but in those games modes the amounts of ISK are IN NO WAY similar proportions and you know it. A.) PC =/= competitive. It's a passive way to accumulate ISK. Look up R&D in Eve Online; it's like that. B.) You are projecting your own insecurities really hard right now. I just wanted to make you aware. I strongly dislike the state of PC and that makes me a poor leader? Again, I think you are projecting your own insecurities on someone else. Maybe you wish you had the drive to stand up to your PC masters, but you can't? That's my guess. What the ** is a hurt feeling report? Also, I never claimed to be diamond tier MLG uber gamer. I just know a broken system when I see one. For your administration or menstruation in this case I guess http://www.xdtalk.com/forums/attachments/xdtalk-chatter-box/17383d1360611353-anybody-have-hurt-feelings-report-laying-around-hurt-feelings-report.jpg Yes PC is competitive, guess how AE got those districts? by pushing everyone who was against them out, ask TP. Like you yourself said, its where all the ISK is. Thus its the most coveted of game modes. It is also where the best corps have fought it out time and time again, other then the tournaments and guess who won those? I never saw you there mate? wonder why. Yes the proportions are smaller for non PC ISK funding, small effort, small potatoes, you get what you put in and at the level of play you and your allies can muster. Could the PC system be better and more inviting? sure. But you go to war with the army you have not the one you want IE no system is perfect and waiting for one is a bench-warmers game. Would any change in the system really stop AE from winning anyways? not really. They have the largest pool of skilled players with the most experience and willpower under one roof. The best you could do is to attempt to bog them down for a longer period of time. If you removed all of their isk tomorrow and reset PC the same thing would happen again, probably faster. If you put everyone in MLT suits they would still eventually push everyone over.
TERMINALANCE 295	Posted - 2014.04.10 18:59:00 - [5] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: I did not realize you where owed something for just breathing there down syndrome. Wow. We can disagree about a video game, but let's not be hateful against the mentally handicapped... true, I retract my offense to the mentally handicapped. Although they might not notice... :P
TERMINALANCE 295	Posted - 2014.04.10 20:05:00 - [6] - Quote Ripley Riley wrote: TERMINALANCE wrote: I typed exactly what you wanted me to PC masters. Please reward me like the good servant I am. So let's cut the bullshit... you think PC is 100% viable. You believe that the ISK gained from PC is in no way illegitimate. Everyone participating is PC is not exploiting game mechanics in any way. Am I or aren't I correct? Depends what you mean by viable? if you where to ask me if there are enough skilled players evenly spread across the various corps and alliances in order for some sort of equilibrium to be established I would say the answer is no. This game probably has about 10,000 to 15,000 total active players, maybe more maybe less. Of those only a fraction of them have the skills/experience required to compete against top tier teams. Most of those players are spoken for. The few that are not are either retired or have no interest in PC anymore. Of the non-PC players who have never done PC but are talented they have little to no experience on how to fight PC warfare. What I am saying is that with the game numbers and human resources available not currently members of alliances already there are not enough players to sweep back AE from the map. So from a human resources standpoint AE has the Scales completely in their favor. IE PC is at a point of no return. Now as for other problems with PC sure you could go on for days and weeks thinking of systems to change the core mechanics of how PC works, but no matter what system you go with (given current ability of CCP) you have 2 eventualities. #1 Skilled players who are teamed into a larger group and collectively have the most willpower push everyone out of the map with time through attrition and ratios of W/L over time. #2 less skilled extremely large corps Zerg everyone out of the map through attrition and numbers. both lead to the same eventuality, its just how MMO's tend to work for these game modes. Ways to change that are difficult at best. 1# you could infinitely expand the districts. but then there is 0 competition because there would be nothing to fight over as districts would be essentially worthless. so increasing map/district size over player size does little to help the issue. more districts would not change much for the better. Other things like high value contracts might seem like they would work, but again the most skilled corp with the highest number of skilled players would dominate that as well. so no go. Some think bringing eve into the equation would help. they are wrong, you would just have a different colored blue donut. So its hard to find any real answer for the issue that would solve the problem of skilled players vs numbers of players. some of that comes down to straight life mechanics, ie how people work and work together, they like to horde up and skilled players like to work with other skilled players. maybe you could have a double PC with separate high and low isk districts? probably would not work though.