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Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:30:00 - [1] - Quote If the DNS alliance's ultimate goal is to control all of MH to prove PC is broken why do so many of your players encourage corps to "do something about it"? Isn't it counterproductive? My corp has no room to talk as most of our group is composed of casual players but it seems stupid to goad the enemies of your cause. Could it be that you actually don't want to be in 100% control of MH and that you simply are just trying to be the villains, or is it simply because you just want the money the ability to say that you "beat" the game?
Monarch Cyan 1	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:31:00 - [2] - Quote I don't even know what the goal of all this is. I'm just wanting to get my money. And Lord knows I need my Iskies. If you don't know who I am, then don't mind me, I'm just some dude.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:32:00 - [3] - Quote I can understand that.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:40:00 - [4] - Quote Ok we'll a question for you money minded players is why join DNS if you could have made money in PC anyways? Was it because you were paying them protection money anyways?
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4556	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:40:00 - [5] - Quote I think that a lot of corps who have been removed may unite and try to break the donut. At least that's what I'm hoping for. The truth is that the blue donut corps have been doing a majority of the fighting against each other for most of PC history. Most every corp would hire one of us to attack/defend for their corp. Now its time you guys fight your own battles. I have seen more excitement and the fighting spirit from corps recently who have engaged us and seen how fun these intense battles can be. I hope more will insue as you all unite to kick our asses.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:48:00 - [6] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: I think that a lot of corps who have been removed may unite and try to break the donut. At least that's what I'm hoping for. The truth is that the blue donut corps have been doing a majority of the fighting against each other for most of PC history. Most every corp would hire one of us to attack/defend for their corp. Now its time you guys fight your own battles. I have seen more excitement and the fighting spirit from corps recently who have engaged us and seen how fun these intense battles can be. I hope more will insue as you all unite to kick our asses. Ok I get that too then the point of all this is to simply get the other players to fight you. Why do some of the other people in your alliance claim it is to show how broken PC is? I mean why not just say "get gud" and fight your own battles?
Monarch Cyan 1	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:56:00 - [7] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: Ok we'll a question for you money minded players is why join DNS if you could have made money in PC anyways? Was it because you were paying them protection money anyways? Well, I'm a part of a DNS corp. Not this character, mind you. If you don't know who I am, then don't mind me, I'm just some dude.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 03:58:00 - [8] - Quote Well why did your corp join in the first place? I suppose that is what I am really asking.
HowDidThatTaste Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 4557	Posted - 2014.04.10 04:01:00 - [9] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: I think that a lot of corps who have been removed may unite and try to break the donut. At least that's what I'm hoping for. The truth is that the blue donut corps have been doing a majority of the fighting against each other for most of PC history. Most every corp would hire one of us to attack/defend for their corp. Now its time you guys fight your own battles. I have seen more excitement and the fighting spirit from corps recently who have engaged us and seen how fun these intense battles can be. I hope more will insue as you all unite to kick our asses. Ok I get that too then the point of all this is to simply get the other players to fight you. Why do some of the other people in your alliance claim it is to show how broken PC is? I mean why not just say "get gud" and fight your own battles? Actually I'm sure its a mixture of all of it PC is broken I.e (low clone packs to get in ,dull mechanics that make you wait days to fight, the grind that can be associated with fight schedules etc.) And you can find many posts with people saying get good and PFC is not encouraging corps to get good. I don't even know the official reason but this all makes sense to me. And of course add in the we are taking cause we can comments, or the wouldn't it be cool if we just take it all mentality and I think you have your answer. Why does it matter why we are doing it so much? Just build a force to stop it there is plenty of talentented payers who could if they worked together.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 04:11:00 - [10] - Quote Then why don't just say that? I think people would accept that much more easily, hell that would probably just **** everyone off that much more. I mean if you just want to fight just say that.

Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 4101	Posted - 2014.04.10 04:37:00 - [11] - Quote I just like to fight with 15 of my buds and get paid for it! I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost I hack at Mach V
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 04:56:00 - [12] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: I just like to fight with 15 of my buds and get paid for it! Ok I get that you can't really do that anywhere else.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 77	Posted - 2014.04.10 05:06:00 - [13] - Quote Glad to see I haven't gotten any straight up hateful comments. Seems you guys really are human after all. =)
Alaska Kilgannon The Phoenix Federation 46	Posted - 2014.04.10 05:22:00 - [14] - Quote I'd like to see GunFall attack some districts. Theres some pretty solid guys in your corp. Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 5022	Posted - 2014.04.10 05:26:00 - [15] - Quote As taste said, we are doing this for lots of mixed reasons. We can't just "say" the specific reason because everyone in DNS has their own view point. We can't exactly control what people in DNS say so you will always get points that contradict or aren't exactly in line with what would be the "True" reason. Also to be frank, I don't think it would matter if we told the specific reason. Regardless of "why" we do something, we will ** people off and they will just give us regardless. GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior Pro I** \| Warframe is awesome! \| PSN: I-NINJA-ALL-DAY
JL3Eleven Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1826	Posted - 2014.04.10 05:53:00 - [16] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: As taste said, we are doing this for lots of mixed reasons. We can't just "say" the specific reason because everyone in DNS has their own view point. We can't exactly control what people in DNS say so you will always get points that contradict or aren't exactly in line with what would be the "True" reason. Also to be frank, I don't think it would matter if we told the specific reason. Regardless of "why" we do something, we will ** people off and they will just give us ** regardless. Let me translate AE speak: We need more Strippers and Blow. Please Give. Looking to buy: Balac's Modified Assault ck.0 Balac's MRN-30 Submachine Gun Balac's N-17 Sniper Rifle Daemons Shotty BPO
Lunatic Kota TeamPlayers Dirt Nap Squad. 118	Posted - 2014.04.10 07:08:00 - [17] - Quote I heard when we take 100% of MH I finally get to leave my basement. Cubs has had me tied down with a 65% tax rate for over a month farming for this war. That's my reasoning. Edited: Cubs also has me making some God aweful mustard and pickle sandwiches he's been eating. There's a message in my Cheerios!
Patrick57 6872	Posted - 2014.04.10 10:42:00 - [18] - Quote Monarch Cyan wrote: I don't even know what the goal of all this is. I'm just wanting to get my money. And Lord knows I need my Iskies. This. My Pythons aren't going to buy themselves... Hell is empty and all the devils are here. -William Shakespeare
ER-Bullitt Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1337	Posted - 2014.04.10 13:29:00 - [19] - Quote Isk.
Monarch Cyan 1	Posted - 2014.04.10 13:35:00 - [20] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: Glad to see I haven't gotten any straight up hateful comments. Seems you guys really are human after all. =) Uh, Uh, YOU ALL SUCK!! GIT GUD SCRUBS!!! Y U MAD!!? If you don't know who I am, then don't mind me, I'm just some dude.

MythTanker The Phoenix Federation 31	Posted - 2014.04.10 13:48:00 - [21] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: I think that a lot of corps who have been removed may unite and try to break the donut. At least that's what I'm hoping for. The truth is that the blue donut corps have been doing a majority of the fighting against each other for most of PC history. Most every corp would hire one of us to attack/defend for their corp. Now its time you guys fight your own battles. I have seen more excitement and the fighting spirit from corps recently who have engaged us and seen how fun these intense battles can be. I hope more will insue as you all unite to kick our asses. Just think, the possibility of a massive 2 sided war. That is awesome. Gun Hard Travis Heavies are OP? Say that to the buisness end of my HMG you peasent.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 80	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:12:00 - [22] - Quote Alaska Kilgannon wrote: I'd like to see GunFall attack some districts. Theres some pretty solid guys in your corp. Thank you it's been a while since we have been in PC but we are going to make a comeback =)
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 80	Posted - 2014.04.10 16:13:00 - [23] - Quote Monarch Cyan wrote: Travis Stanush wrote: Glad to see I haven't gotten any straight up hateful comments. Seems you guys really are human after all. =) Uh, Uh, YOU ALL SUCK!! GIT GUD SCRUBS!!! Y U MAD!!? Lol
Alaska Kilgannon The Phoenix Federation 50	Posted - 2014.04.11 05:13:00 - [24] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: Alaska Kilgannon wrote: I'd like to see GunFall attack some districts. Theres some pretty solid guys in your corp. Thank you it's been a while since we have been in PC but we are going to make a comeback =) That's awesome. Hopefully, if we can take a district and manage to hold it, we should set up some friendly matches or heck, you guys just try to take it from us lol. Looking forward to seeing GunFall get back into the mix. o7 Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
Alaska Kilgannon The Phoenix Federation 52	Posted - 2014.04.11 05:30:00 - [25] - Quote MythTanker wrote: HowDidThatTaste wrote: I think that a lot of corps who have been removed may unite and try to break the donut. At least that's what I'm hoping for. The truth is that the blue donut corps have been doing a majority of the fighting against each other for most of PC history. Most every corp would hire one of us to attack/defend for their corp. Now its time you guys fight your own battles. I have seen more excitement and the fighting spirit from corps recently who have engaged us and seen how fun these intense battles can be. I hope more will insue as you all unite to kick our asses. Just think, the possibility of a massive 2 sided war. That is awesome. Gun Hard Travis I'm always down for a good war. Here put this lipstick on. 'Cause you finna get f*ed.
deezy dabest CLONES AGAINST HUMANITY 323	Posted - 2014.04.11 20:43:00 - [26] - Quote HowDidThatTaste wrote: I think that a lot of corps who have been removed may unite and try to break the donut. At least that's what I'm hoping for. The truth is that the blue donut corps have been doing a majority of the fighting against each other for most of PC history. Most every corp would hire one of us to attack/defend for their corp. Now its time you guys fight your own battles. I have seen more excitement and the fighting spirit from corps recently who have engaged us and seen how fun these intense battles can be. I hope more will insue as you all unite to kick our asses. This is the best statement I have seen from anyone in your alliance in reference to the current situation. (Not saying I have seen them all) Thank you for not hiding behind the lame excuse of helping the game.
Leadfoot10 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1051	Posted - 2014.04.11 20:44:00 - [27] - Quote Travis Stanush wrote: If the DNS alliance's ultimate goal is to control all of MH to prove PC is broken why do so many of your players encourage corps to "do something about it"? Isn't it counterproductive? My corp has no room to talk as most of our group is composed of casual players but it seems stupid to goad the enemies of your cause. Could it be that you actually don't want to be in 100% control of MH and that you simply are just trying to be the villains, or is it simply because you just want the money the ability to say that you "beat" the game? Proving PC was broken was never the goal. It was simply subterfuge, and I think you captured the essence in your last sentence.
Travis Stanush GunFall Mobilization 93	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:10:00 - [28] - Quote Leadfoot10 wrote: Travis Stanush wrote: If the DNS alliance's ultimate goal is to control all of MH to prove PC is broken why do so many of your players encourage corps to "do something about it"? Isn't it counterproductive? My corp has no room to talk as most of our group is composed of casual players but it seems stupid to goad the enemies of your cause. Could it be that you actually don't want to be in 100% control of MH and that you simply are just trying to be the villains, or is it simply because you just want the money the ability to say that you "beat" the game? Proving PC was broken was never the goal. It was simply subterfuge, and I think you captured the essence in your last sentence. I wanted to see what he majority of the players thought but yes I do believe it was the last reason mostly.
demens grimwulff Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 187	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:52:00 - [29] - Quote Regardless of what we say, the same reasoning you see some use in this thread, and others, will cause it to go on deaf ears (or ones plugged with fingers and the person screaming LA LA LA LA). If it was the isk, then why am I the poorest member of ERA? I would say, the mass majority of DNS came into this with millions of isk and did not need the land for isk farming... heck, I gave away half my wallet and I still probably have more than some of the corps who are fighting us. If it was to prove PC was broken, then we have done it... but I think it is more than that. I think the philosophy and mindset behind PC is broken... the whole thing is and always has been broken. If you are familiar with me at all, I was very outspoken about my feelings on district locking and argued heavily to get that fixed, as that was TRULY isk farming. People can attack us all they want, but with the way clone packs are, they may never take a district. So, for me, I feel this is a part we all feel needs to be fixed... PC has ZERO value in its current set up, outside of making the wealthy good players, even more wealthy. Another line, and one that I sympathize with is what Taste brought up... A lot of us are really f'in tired of fighting just us. No one else would dare step up... The time I was in AE we only ever fought 0.H (that was the ringers everyone hired) or ERA at the end... who were the same people that were in EoN (FA too, but that are same faces/different name). So... I, personally, think that all of you are to blame for this... not wanting to attack or take districts as you idley stand back and watch the "big boys" fight for you. "If we want competition, we should just fight ourselves"... We HAVE been fighting ourselves... For months now... And we're tired of it. It is your turn to fight us, instead of paying us to fight for you. Also... saying we won the game makes it just that much better... like saying they put an extra shot of tequila in my margarita... just that much sweeter. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
General John Ripper 19707	Posted - 2014.04.11 21:53:00 - [30] - Quote 97.96% The message has been sent already. CCP knows their game is broken. My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 cpm petition Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.

demens grimwulff Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 187	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:02:00 - [31] - Quote General John Ripper wrote: 97.96% The message has been sent already. CCP knows their game is broken. GÇ£If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.GÇ¥ GÇò Samuel Adams We seek not to control you to your actions... we seek to prove a point, and we're tired of your money that you used to hire us a soldiers of fortune... we want what we have earned, and what we have been fighting for. If you want in our game, we simply ask that you fight for what you think is yours... if you do not fight with your own, you have not learned your lesson, or if you cry in a corner by your keyboard, you have given up. Stake your claim... prove you are worthy. In the meantime, CCP needs to rethink their philosophy on PC as it is broken beyond repair. As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end
General John Ripper 19710	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:17:00 - [32] - Quote demens grimwulff wrote: General John Ripper wrote: 97.96% The message has been sent already. CCP knows their game is broken. GÇ£If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.GÇ¥ GÇò Samuel Adams We seek not to control you to your actions... we seek to prove a point, and we're tired of your money that you used to hire us a soldiers of fortune... we want what we have earned, and what we have been fighting for. If you want in our game, we simply ask that you fight for what you think is yours... if you do not fight with your own, you have not learned your lesson, or if you cry in a corner by your keyboard, you have given up. Stake your claim... prove you are worthy. In the meantime, CCP needs to rethink their philosophy on PC as it is broken beyond repair. I fight, not for glory, not even for wealth. I simply fight for the thrill of the game. My like count = Nominate Ripper 4 cpm petition Sign it to let CCP know we are serious.
demens grimwulff Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad. 188	Posted - 2014.04.11 22:23:00 - [33] - Quote Same As the archeology of our thought easily shows, man is an invention of recent date. And one perhaps nearing its end


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