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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:13:00 -
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The magsec is better at long range AND close range Why use the bolt pistol |
Patrick57
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:17:00 -
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How do you think I feel with the Ion Pistol?
Hell is empty and all the devils are here.
-William Shakespeare
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Vordred Knight
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
68
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:18:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:How do you think I feel with the Ion Pistol?
^ +1
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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:18:00 -
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um. Because range and accuracy and power? Because it's a good offset to the shotgun on a scout? Because you don't always want to spray and pray?
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Roxas Shin Hikaru
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
33
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:20:00 -
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I think you'll no doubt enjoy Mr. Cyrus Li Moody's review of said gun. Take a look:
http://youtu.be/-4pB4coPpH0
P.S. *Wispers Loudly* I LOVE YOU MOODY
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:22:00 -
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I absolutely love the Bolt pistol.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
454
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:30:00 -
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The bolt pistol is a pocket sniper rifle, because of the space in time between shots it can be really hard to tell where you're being hit from and it's also pretty damn quiet and doesn't kick when aimed down sights.
It is an excellent tool for flanking.
The magsec is loud, inaccurate and kicks pretty badly, I honestly prefer the regular smg. |
Contaminator Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:31:00 -
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because finesse is clearly lost on you
admitting you are being illogical doesn't validate your point. It shows you know you are being dumb and keep talking
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:33:00 -
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I run a heavy, and there's no better sidearm in the game for a heavy than the bolt pistol.
Why? Because the thing allows you to slowly weaken heavy targets from long distances away. When they finally get within range they won't have much health left and you can kill them easily with your HMG.
People who get shot by the bolt pistol also get really confused. They first think it was a mlt sniper and don't care, then they realize they have no shields and panic, and after that it takes maybe 1-2 more shots before they're dead thanks to the armor bonus the weapon gets
Just don't use it CQC, only on players that are far away. The weapon doesn't work well with other long-range weapons, but makes a great addition to short-range ones.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:39:00 -
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The concept of it was a joke. At least the ion pistol has a logical way to improve it.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1367
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:42:00 -
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Seeth Mensch wrote:um. Because range and accuracy and power? Because it's a good offset to the shotgun on a scout? Because you don't always want to spray and pray? Magsec is better at all of those things |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:43:00 -
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http://i.imgur.com/KZhhpbw.jpg?1
I beg to differ
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1367
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:44:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I run a heavy, and there's no better sidearm in the game for a heavy than the bolt pistol.
Why? Because the thing allows you to slowly weaken heavy targets from long distances away. When they finally get within range they won't have much health left and you can kill them easily with your HMG.
People who get shot by the bolt pistol also get really confused. They first think it was a mlt sniper and don't care, then they realize they have no shields and panic, and after that it takes maybe 1-2 more shots before they're dead thanks to the armor bonus the weapon gets
Just don't use it CQC, only on players that are far away. The weapon doesn't work well with other long-range weapons, but makes a great addition to short-range ones. Magsec kills faster at long range |
Roxas Shin Hikaru
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:44:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:http://i.imgur.com/KZhhpbw.jpg?1
I beg to differ Holy doodie.
44 kills...?
A tip of the hat to you, good sir.
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Boot Booter
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
417
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:49:00 -
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I guarantee its better than the flaylock. |
Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1367
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:59:00 -
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Well people say the flaylock is balenced so i dont know why people would want this to be a good gun Looks like we have another weapon to add to the useless weapons list |
Awry Barux
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:26:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I run a heavy, and there's no better sidearm in the game for a heavy than the bolt pistol.
Why? Because the thing allows you to slowly weaken heavy targets from long distances away. When they finally get within range they won't have much health left and you can kill them easily with your HMG.
People who get shot by the bolt pistol also get really confused. They first think it was a mlt sniper and don't care, then they realize they have no shields and panic, and after that it takes maybe 1-2 more shots before they're dead thanks to the armor bonus the weapon gets
Just don't use it CQC, only on players that are far away. The weapon doesn't work well with other long-range weapons, but makes a great addition to short-range ones.
This would be true if it wasn't bugged to have an absolute range of 60m. It becomes literally useless after that range, making the magsec a much better long-range sidearm.
Nerdier than thou
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Krator Kosta Nostra
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:38:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Well people say the flaylock is balenced so i dont know why people would want this to be a good gun Looks like we have another weapon to add to the useless weapons list I run dual flaylocks...I can assure you they are NOT balanced. They need one extra shot in a clip. That would make it balanced. |
Vesperz
D3ATH CARD
79
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:44:00 -
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Bolt Pistol is damn awesome. Picking off shields and finishing them off with a M512 A-SMG. Those head shots too. YUM.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:52:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:Bolt Pistol is damn awesome. Picking off shields and finishing them off with a M512 A-SMG. Those head shots too. YUM. Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor |
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1368
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:53:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:I run a heavy, and there's no better sidearm in the game for a heavy than the bolt pistol.
Why? Because the thing allows you to slowly weaken heavy targets from long distances away. When they finally get within range they won't have much health left and you can kill them easily with your HMG.
People who get shot by the bolt pistol also get really confused. They first think it was a mlt sniper and don't care, then they realize they have no shields and panic, and after that it takes maybe 1-2 more shots before they're dead thanks to the armor bonus the weapon gets
Just don't use it CQC, only on players that are far away. The weapon doesn't work well with other long-range weapons, but makes a great addition to short-range ones. This would be true if it wasn't bugged to have an absolute range of 60m. It becomes literally useless after that range, making the magsec a much better long-range sidearm. Even without the range bug the magsec would still be better at long range |
baniel bj
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:10:00 -
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bolt pistol is is one of the best sidearms. I got 25 kills just useing that sidearm.
Who's op?
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:13:00 -
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Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:25:00 -
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can it kill anyone besides starter fits? if not it is
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
460
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:05:00 -
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Johnny Guilt wrote:can it kill anyone besides starter fits? if not it is
I've caught gallente sentinels offguard with it. It is not good if you want to stand off and shoot at someone like it's a duel at high noon - smg's or scp is better for that, but it is a great precision sidearm. |
Asha Starwind
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:29:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:The bolt pistol is a pocket sniper rifle, because of the space in time between shots it can be really hard to tell where you're being hit from and it's also pretty damn quiet and doesn't kick when aimed down sights.
It is an excellent tool for flanking.
The magsec is loud, inaccurate and kicks pretty badly, I honestly prefer the regular smg.
I'd agree if it's range wasn't hardcapped at 40 or so meters.
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MINA Longstrike
2Shitz 1Giggle United Brotherhood Alliance
460
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:33:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:The bolt pistol is a pocket sniper rifle, because of the space in time between shots it can be really hard to tell where you're being hit from and it's also pretty damn quiet and doesn't kick when aimed down sights.
It is an excellent tool for flanking.
The magsec is loud, inaccurate and kicks pretty badly, I honestly prefer the regular smg. I'd agree if it's range wasn't hardcapped at 40 or so meters.
Bugs, just like why the ion pistol cant shoot past 20m. As it is it's still a great sidearm. |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:37:00 -
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Funny you should say that since I actually like it and enjoy it more than the Ion Pistol.
Fun fact: the Bolt Pistol is actually more useful than the Ion Pistol.
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Gaurdian Satyr
Glitched Connection
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:The magsec is better at long range AND close range Why use the bolt pistol
As i said when 1.8 came out
"magsec are just mini RR pre 1.8"
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Contaminator Aquarius
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:57:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote: Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
wut bolt gets bonus to armor... if i was going to run dual pistols it would be scram then switch to bolt
admitting you are being illogical doesn't validate your point. It shows you know you are being dumb and keep talking
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Zetsumi Ravencroft
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
-blink- Uhh... let's see... something is wrong here...
Scrambler pistol... laser damage profile... +20% versus shields, -20% versus armor
Bolt Pistol... rail damage profile... -10% versus shields, +10% versus armor
Pretty sure that means the Scrambler does less damage to armor, not the Bolt pistol.
@Thread: The thing with the Magsec is that it is much harder to actually control the thing when firing full auto due to the insane amount of kick it has due to being a smaller, more compact Rail Rifle... yes, it fires faster and currently has more range due to the bug, but trying to compare the Magsec and the Bolt Pistol's ranges when one is currently being hampered by a coding bug is heavily flawed and does not make a good point for discussion.
Yes, the Bolt Pistol does seem unappealing to most due to its low rate of fire, but the thing is the freaking hand cannon of Dust, it is not meant to shoot fast, it is meant to shoot one powerful bullet with each "trigger pull" that your enemies will feel for certain and reward you for being able to consistently put the shoots on your target from down range instead of spraying and praying with a gun that kicks harder then an Asian grandpa in a cheesy kung fu flick. It is not a weapon meant for those who have issues with precision shots, it is a skill weapon that makes up for its sniper rifle level of damage with the need to practice and learn to make those 6 shots in your clip count.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1369
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:54:00 -
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Contaminator Aquarius wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
wut bolt gets bonus to armor... if i was going to run dual pistols it would be scram then switch to bolt I meant so say weak to shields Oops |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
2984
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:32:00 -
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Roxas Shin Hikaru wrote:I think you'll no doubt enjoy Mr. Cyrus Li Moody's review of said gun. Take a look: http://youtu.be/-4pB4coPpH0P.S. *Wispers Loudly* I LOVE YOU MOODY That was great. I'd like to see him do one on the Ion pistol as well.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1369
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:07:00 -
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Zetsumi Ravencroft wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor -blink- Uhh... let's see... something is wrong here... Scrambler pistol... laser damage profile... +20% versus shields, -20% versus armorBolt Pistol... rail damage profile... -10% versus shields, +10% versus armorPretty sure that means the Scrambler does less damage to armor, not the Bolt pistol. @Thread: The thing with the Magsec is that it is much harder to actually control the thing when firing full auto due to the insane amount of kick it has due to being a smaller, more compact Rail Rifle... yes, it fires faster and currently has more range due to the bug, but trying to compare the Magsec and the Bolt Pistol's ranges when one is currently being hampered by a coding bug is heavily flawed and does not make a good point for discussion. Yes, the Bolt Pistol does seem unappealing to most due to its low rate of fire, but the thing is the freaking hand cannon of Dust, it is not meant to shoot fast, it is meant to shoot one powerful bullet with each "trigger pull" that your enemies will feel for certain and reward you for being able to consistently put the shoots on your target from down range instead of spraying and praying with a gun that kicks harder then an Asian grandpa in a cheesy kung fu flick. It is not a weapon meant for those who have issues with precision shots, it is a skill weapon that makes up for its sniper rifle level of damage with the need to practice and learn to make those 6 shots in your clip count. Even if you hit every shot it kills slower than the mag sec With a ROF of 92.3 it's only doing 210 DPS A standard magsec has a higher DPS towards shields than a proto bolt pistol with proficiency 5 does to armor It's unfortunate that the bolt pistol couldn't at least feel like a hand cannon. The low recoil, quiet noise, and low DPS makes it feel more like a small caliber pistol :/ |
Kalante Schiffer
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:58:00 -
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its a good pub gun. but not something reliable therefore is not PC approved.
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:29:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil
Bolt pistol has zero kick, when aiming down sites. It starts to kick with hip-fire, but you don't want to use it that way. It has a scope for a reason.
Bolt pistol is a great little sidearm, a lot of player skill is required to use it well (it's all in the timing of shots). Easy to learn, hard to master.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1369
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:33:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil Bolt pistol has zero kick, when aiming down sites. It starts to kick with hip-fire, but you don't want to use it that way. It has a scope for a reason. Bolt pistol is a great little sidearm, a lot of player skill is required to use it well (it's all in the timing of shots). Easy to learn, hard to master. Bolt pistol is outclassed by every other sidearm DPS? Lolnope Range/accuracy? Magsec is better at range and most pistols (ion, scrambler, and bolt) have perfect accuracy ads so it's not the best here Damage? Scrambler pistol headshots and breach scrambler |
Horizen Kenpachi
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
310
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:51:00 -
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Scp all the way them headshots. Bolt the joke is on the enermy if u get the kill.
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
177
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Posted - 2014.04.12 00:46:00 -
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Contaminator Aquarius wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
wut bolt gets bonus to armor... if i was going to run dual pistols it would be scram then switch to bolt
exactly what i did all last week.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2241
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:29:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Roxas Shin Hikaru wrote:I think you'll no doubt enjoy Mr. Cyrus Li Moody's review of said gun. Take a look: http://youtu.be/-4pB4coPpH0P.S. *Wispers Loudly* I LOVE YOU MOODY That was great. I'd like to see him do one on the Ion pistol as well. This. |
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2241
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:31:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:sabre prime wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil Bolt pistol has zero kick, when aiming down sites. It starts to kick with hip-fire, but you don't want to use it that way. It has a scope for a reason. Bolt pistol is a great little sidearm, a lot of player skill is required to use it well (it's all in the timing of shots). Easy to learn, hard to master. Bolt pistol is outclassed by every other sidearm DPS? Lolnope Range/accuracy? Magsec is better at range and most pistols (ion, scrambler, and bolt) have perfect accuracy ads so it's not the best here Damage? Scrambler pistol headshots and breach scrambler Ion sucks ads lol. It's supposed to be a spray and pray weapon that's why it has low accuracy. I want to get sharpshooter 5 to make it viable though lol I have it at 2 and it helps a lot. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
786
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:The magsec is better at long range AND close range Why use the bolt pistol
I like the bolt pistol.
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