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Zetsumi Ravencroft
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
-blink- Uhh... let's see... something is wrong here...
Scrambler pistol... laser damage profile... +20% versus shields, -20% versus armor
Bolt Pistol... rail damage profile... -10% versus shields, +10% versus armor
Pretty sure that means the Scrambler does less damage to armor, not the Bolt pistol.
@Thread: The thing with the Magsec is that it is much harder to actually control the thing when firing full auto due to the insane amount of kick it has due to being a smaller, more compact Rail Rifle... yes, it fires faster and currently has more range due to the bug, but trying to compare the Magsec and the Bolt Pistol's ranges when one is currently being hampered by a coding bug is heavily flawed and does not make a good point for discussion.
Yes, the Bolt Pistol does seem unappealing to most due to its low rate of fire, but the thing is the freaking hand cannon of Dust, it is not meant to shoot fast, it is meant to shoot one powerful bullet with each "trigger pull" that your enemies will feel for certain and reward you for being able to consistently put the shoots on your target from down range instead of spraying and praying with a gun that kicks harder then an Asian grandpa in a cheesy kung fu flick. It is not a weapon meant for those who have issues with precision shots, it is a skill weapon that makes up for its sniper rifle level of damage with the need to practice and learn to make those 6 shots in your clip count.
M.A.G - Former RAVEN
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1369
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:54:00 -
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Contaminator Aquarius wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
wut bolt gets bonus to armor... if i was going to run dual pistols it would be scram then switch to bolt I meant so say weak to shields Oops |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
2984
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Posted - 2014.04.10 14:32:00 -
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Roxas Shin Hikaru wrote:I think you'll no doubt enjoy Mr. Cyrus Li Moody's review of said gun. Take a look: http://youtu.be/-4pB4coPpH0P.S. *Wispers Loudly* I LOVE YOU MOODY That was great. I'd like to see him do one on the Ion pistol as well.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1369
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:07:00 -
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Zetsumi Ravencroft wrote:Dexter307 wrote:Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor -blink- Uhh... let's see... something is wrong here... Scrambler pistol... laser damage profile... +20% versus shields, -20% versus armorBolt Pistol... rail damage profile... -10% versus shields, +10% versus armorPretty sure that means the Scrambler does less damage to armor, not the Bolt pistol. @Thread: The thing with the Magsec is that it is much harder to actually control the thing when firing full auto due to the insane amount of kick it has due to being a smaller, more compact Rail Rifle... yes, it fires faster and currently has more range due to the bug, but trying to compare the Magsec and the Bolt Pistol's ranges when one is currently being hampered by a coding bug is heavily flawed and does not make a good point for discussion. Yes, the Bolt Pistol does seem unappealing to most due to its low rate of fire, but the thing is the freaking hand cannon of Dust, it is not meant to shoot fast, it is meant to shoot one powerful bullet with each "trigger pull" that your enemies will feel for certain and reward you for being able to consistently put the shoots on your target from down range instead of spraying and praying with a gun that kicks harder then an Asian grandpa in a cheesy kung fu flick. It is not a weapon meant for those who have issues with precision shots, it is a skill weapon that makes up for its sniper rifle level of damage with the need to practice and learn to make those 6 shots in your clip count. Even if you hit every shot it kills slower than the mag sec With a ROF of 92.3 it's only doing 210 DPS A standard magsec has a higher DPS towards shields than a proto bolt pistol with proficiency 5 does to armor It's unfortunate that the bolt pistol couldn't at least feel like a hand cannon. The low recoil, quiet noise, and low DPS makes it feel more like a small caliber pistol :/ |
Kalante Schiffer
535
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Posted - 2014.04.10 15:58:00 -
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its a good pub gun. but not something reliable therefore is not PC approved.
PSN:MWsRAGE_5
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sabre prime
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
172
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:29:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil
Bolt pistol has zero kick, when aiming down sites. It starts to kick with hip-fire, but you don't want to use it that way. It has a scope for a reason.
Bolt pistol is a great little sidearm, a lot of player skill is required to use it well (it's all in the timing of shots). Easy to learn, hard to master.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
1369
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:33:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil Bolt pistol has zero kick, when aiming down sites. It starts to kick with hip-fire, but you don't want to use it that way. It has a scope for a reason. Bolt pistol is a great little sidearm, a lot of player skill is required to use it well (it's all in the timing of shots). Easy to learn, hard to master. Bolt pistol is outclassed by every other sidearm DPS? Lolnope Range/accuracy? Magsec is better at range and most pistols (ion, scrambler, and bolt) have perfect accuracy ads so it's not the best here Damage? Scrambler pistol headshots and breach scrambler |
Horizen Kenpachi
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
310
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:51:00 -
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Scp all the way them headshots. Bolt the joke is on the enermy if u get the kill.
Hit me with your nerf bat.
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Seeth Mensch
Capital Acquisitions LLC Dirt Nap Squad.
177
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Posted - 2014.04.12 00:46:00 -
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Contaminator Aquarius wrote:Dexter307 wrote: Scrambler pistol better at both of those things since bolt pistol is weak against armor
wut bolt gets bonus to armor... if i was going to run dual pistols it would be scram then switch to bolt
exactly what i did all last week.
Hi! Gosh, I've missed you...with every bullet, plasma shot, rail gun, and missile.
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2241
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:29:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Roxas Shin Hikaru wrote:I think you'll no doubt enjoy Mr. Cyrus Li Moody's review of said gun. Take a look: http://youtu.be/-4pB4coPpH0P.S. *Wispers Loudly* I LOVE YOU MOODY That was great. I'd like to see him do one on the Ion pistol as well. This. |
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2241
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:31:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:sabre prime wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:Bolt pistol has almost no kick, I can't kill anything at long range with the magsec because of the recoil Bolt pistol has zero kick, when aiming down sites. It starts to kick with hip-fire, but you don't want to use it that way. It has a scope for a reason. Bolt pistol is a great little sidearm, a lot of player skill is required to use it well (it's all in the timing of shots). Easy to learn, hard to master. Bolt pistol is outclassed by every other sidearm DPS? Lolnope Range/accuracy? Magsec is better at range and most pistols (ion, scrambler, and bolt) have perfect accuracy ads so it's not the best here Damage? Scrambler pistol headshots and breach scrambler Ion sucks ads lol. It's supposed to be a spray and pray weapon that's why it has low accuracy. I want to get sharpshooter 5 to make it viable though lol I have it at 2 and it helps a lot. |
Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad.
786
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Posted - 2014.04.12 16:36:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:The magsec is better at long range AND close range Why use the bolt pistol
I like the bolt pistol.
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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