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keno trader
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:26:00 -
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In an effort to enhance both my playing skills and meet other scout players, I'm starting this thread to act as something constructive (post 1.8) as opposed to all the negative threads I've seen so far asking for changes/buffs.
I guess what you should include are:
- How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things.
- What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit).
- Your fit (if you want to share).
- Playstyle/roles/fits
I'll start by saying that I'm chronically low on ISK (funny...but true) . Having invested over 8 million points in skills, I believe I have a half decent fit as a (now) proto Caldari Scout. In retrospect, Caldari scout isn't the best offensive suit, but damn it looked cool and I wanted one. Everyone knows what a Caldari scout is supposed to do....run around, scan, avoid getting hit, etc. What frustrates me is that scouting like this is a royal pain in skirmish (guaranteed deaths) and mediocre at best on domination. These are my two favorite map modes, and it just sucks getting your butt handed to you by a team that has half a clue regarding what to do. So, in an effort to dispel myths and innovate (lol), I'd like to share my experiences as a bricktanked scout.
So apparently this is an "OP" playstyle...scout bricktanking. Not sure what it meant...but I supposed it was loading the scout up with armor and shields and just flanking the enemy. After some significant experimentation, I concluded that this is not OP, and it is damn difficult to play as.
There's a fine line between becoming an assault and staying as a scout. If you dip too much into becoming an assault, IE playing extremely aggressively, relying heavily on speed and chance to land you in a favorable position to take on heavies/brick tanked mediums, you will lose. There's simply nothing in a scouts weaponry (except shotgun, but that really isn't great for a brick tanked scout anyways...since you lack speed or dampening) to deliver the damage that you need. It's like walking a tight rope, and it will cost you. If you attempt to engage a group of enemies even with friendlies supporting you, there's a high chance that the group will a) realize that you're an easier kill and focus on you, b) panic and attack you. Both scenarios are bad.
So...a slight variation was needed. THE SCAVENGER BRICKTANK SCOUT...engage in medium range! The scavenger bricktanked scout effectively does nothing well. But it does offer a very safe, low loss, low-mediocre gain method of playing. It's pretty nice if you're low on ISK or are attempting to bump your KD.
Caldari Proto Scout: 3x complex shields. 1x enhanced shields. 1x complex plates. 1x enhanced armor rep. 1x automatic combat rifle (lvl 4)/any other combat rifle. 1x submachine gun. 1x cloak, nanite injector (or whatever you want). 'Nades (nuff said).
It's horrific, the scout purists are crying right now, but hey, it had to be discussed.
THE GOOD: -With around 550 total HP, you'll feel safer than before about running expensive stuff. -It's much harder to get taken out, much much harder I might add. You wouldn't believe it, but those extra points really do help. -It'll let you take on heavy and medium suits comfortably at a good range. -It'll help you win most scout-scout encounters if you are careful about not running into invsi-Gallentes.
THE BAD: -Very conservative playstyle. -Somewhat boring/ lower yield. -Requires constant thinking/placement. Misstep = 1 more suit lost.
The name suggests that this fit requires you to "scavenge" kills. That is, a lot of flanking/circling. I had the most success with this suit destroying enemy logis. As logis put down equipment, I followed close behind and destroyed the uplinks. After that, I engaged the enemy logis. It also became easy to get enemy heavies, and brick tanked mediums. The key diff between this and a regular scout is that there is no objective for you. You rely solely on opportunism and situational awareness, which means that you won't be helping your team that much.
It's imperative that you engage at a medium distance with full stamina. Anything more or less is disastrous. With this fit, it's important to know what region you're going to be scouting in, because establishing correct engagement distances and sight lines will prevent you from entering a bad engagement situation. Retreat is never an if...it's a must if needed.
Ideally, if you have another pure scout watching your back, you'll be safe from counter-scouts. However, this fit is self sufficient, it has an armor rep and you should be fine in most scenarios. With careful play, it'll allow a good player to extend his reach far into enemy territory (effectively becoming...a "light assault"), and pick off foolhardy/ rushy foes.
MY CONCLUSION: Boring/ not the way scout should be done, but engaging at medium range whilst moving quickly works out pretty well. Cloaks help player set up for the right type of engagements.
OP? No....quite far from it in fact.
THIS IS NOT THE ONLY WAY A SCOUT SHOULD BE PLAYED, BUT IS AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THOSE NOT WISHING TO BE JUMPING OVER ENEMY PLAYERS 24/7.
Best round so far with this tactic...200k gain and 0 deaths . |
Youknowutimsayin
Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad.
104
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:34:00 -
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Shotgun scout... Dragonfly, STD Shotgun, Toxin SMG, Fluxes and REs
Does whatever I need it to do. Defending a point, attacking a point or just going on murder sprees. The new stuff in 1.8 is fun but not much has changed with my scout.
Loaded skill tree. I run Dragonfly because I want to. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
4714
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:45:00 -
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I like to be more of a non-combat guy. 2 basic fits for this:
Amarr scout, with a scrambler rifle, cloak, uplinks, kincat, and profile dampener (rest of the fit doesn't matter)- mostly just runs around putting uplinks where they're needed, or doing stuff in more open objectives. Has a codebreaker on it when more slots are available.
Minmatar scout with a combat rifle, knives, cloak, and profile dampener. (again, the rest doesn't matter)- this is the one I use for more enclosed or urban areas. Sneaks in to quickly hack, with the ability to cut its way in and out of tight spots.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
86
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:47:00 -
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keno trader wrote:I guess what you should include are:
- How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things.
- What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit).
- Your fit (if you want to share).
- Playstyle/roles/fits
* SP: 38.9M; investing in all-things-Scoutly since Chrome. * Suits: 75% Caldari, 25% Gallente * Fit: ewar + biotics * Role: To haunt you while you "Scout" about.
Bang?
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keno trader
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
5
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:53:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:keno trader wrote:I guess what you should include are:
- How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things.
- What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit).
- Your fit (if you want to share).
- Playstyle/roles/fits
* SP: 38.9M; investing in all-things-Scoutly since Chrome. * Suits: Caldari, Gallente. * Fit: eWar, Biotics. * Role: To haunt you while you "Scout" about.
And this is every brick tanked scout's worst nightmare.
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Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1266
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:55:00 -
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I don't know how much SP it all totals but I have Gal scout at level 5, precision enhancement to 5, profile dampening to 5, and range amplification at 5. Biotics are at 5, kin cats to level 3.
I most often run adv. level gal scout
1 complex shield extender 1 complex precision enhancer 1 complex profile dampener 1 enhanced armor plate 1 enhanced reactive plate
Remote explosives Adv. cloak
Adv. assault CR M 209 assault SMG
I started running scout a couple months before 1.8 to try it out because I knew it was going to be OP come 1.8 and I absolutely fell in love with it and could not fathom why scout players thought it was so UP. I run mostly slayer scout using my stealth and passive scanning to set up my kills. Before 1.8 I used remote explosives much more, now its just position myself behind a guy or 2 and gun them down with the ACR. I should start skilling into shotguns but its almost too easy and my SMG does damn well in CQC.
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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Rifter7
Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad.
376
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:56:00 -
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i fit 4 complex plates, 4 complex shield extenders and a proper predator cloak. my weapons a mounted shoulder cannon. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn
1266
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Posted - 2014.04.09 23:56:00 -
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keno trader wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:keno trader wrote:I guess what you should include are:
- How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things.
- What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit).
- Your fit (if you want to share).
- Playstyle/roles/fits
* SP: 38.9M; investing in all-things-Scoutly since Chrome. * Suits: Caldari, Gallente. * Fit: eWar, Biotics. * Role: To haunt you while you "Scout" about. And this is every brick tanked scout's worst nightmare.
Yet he doesn't frighten me much unless he is using all those highs for precision mods
Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
373
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Posted - 2014.04.10 00:03:00 -
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almost at 42 million SP
19 mill in weapons
19 mill in suit upgrades
gallente scout 100%
caldari scout level 2
I play in a standard "Valor" gallente suit with standard CR, standard SMG, standard flux, advanced uplinks, basic cloak.
I play 4 suits all built the same with different links (one has proto stable)
as for modules have never changed 1.7 - 1.8 (just applied 1 more damp)
3 of my fits cost 8k and the one with a proto link is around 13k
(a cal scout with 2 complex precision cannot see me)
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors Dropsuit Samurai
117
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:01:00 -
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On this main, I have a Cal Scout to lvl 1. Pretty good thus far. I've only used it once though and died due to IRL distractions.
On my scout alt, I rock a Gal scout to lvl 3. I have enough SP to go lvl 5, but there are LP Gk.0's after all, and I still have core skills to attend to. That includes Kincats to 3, dampening to 4, and armor to 5. It's quite fun, and death seems like a memory.
Forgot to tell you that I like knives. As to why I haven't Minscout, I dunno. |
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1012
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:09:00 -
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@OP, I have a almost the same fit using the Minmatar Advanced scout. Only three shield extenders and lower level plate/repper, but sits around the 550EHP mark and gets used as a light assault for taking/holding objectives. The Assault CR is a beast if you get the drop on someone.
More generally, 19M skill points. After 1.8 my only points in dropsuits is proto Minmatar scout. About 7M in weapons, and the rest in dropsuit upgrades.
Normal fit is: M/1 advanced scout Complex shield extender Advanced precision enhancer
Complex profile dampener Advanced range extender
Assault CR ZN-28 Nova Knives Flux Grenades
Advanced Cloak Compact Nano Hive
EWAR capabilities isn't as good as the GAL/CAL suits, but is good enough compared to pre-1.8. Just need range and precision to 5 (4 and 3 respectively) and then I'll have all of my scout skills maxed out.
Knowledge is power
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Shutter Fly
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
310
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Posted - 2014.04.10 01:46:00 -
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LOLFWARMY, do you have any idea who your CEO is? If not, I have some very eye-opening stories for you.
Anyway, I have about 30M invested directly into scout-type things.
Lv5 Dropsuits: Caldari Scout Gallente Scout Minmatar Scout
Almost all my scout fittings are slayers of some sort, although the methods vary by suit.
Caldari: Precision, Precision, Precision: My go-to ADV Cal scout has <400 eHP, and two Precision Enhancers. Seeing almost everything lets me focus more on looking out for the occasional Gal scout that I can't see.
Gallente: First Priority: Beat all the scans. Second: Light brick. My Gal scout fittings are unscannable while cloaked and require very specific countermeasures to scan while uncloaked, rest usually consists of low tier armor plates and shield extenders.
OR
1) Straight up brick tank 2) Assault Mass Driver 3) Lotsa hives 4) ??? 5) Profit
Minmatar: Hack n' Slash: KCs, a codebreaker, precision, and Nova Knives. Hack everything, hide in the shadows, and shank anything that gets near the letters. You don't see them much, but the cloak has made Nova Knives practical and legitimately useful. Heavies die in one charged attack, medium frames rarely even need a charge swipe, and scouts are dead before they can drop their cloak. |
keno trader
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:52:00 -
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No idea why I'm in the faction...I've been here a while....but like your typical dinosaur I haven't quite caught up with the faction scene yet. |
Umma Kabula
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
15
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Posted - 2014.04.10 02:59:00 -
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I run a G scout on my 2nd pg, Il Gallo Cedrone. 9 millions SP Damp and range level 5, precision just 1, scout suit level 4 (600k sp to proto ) Biotics 5, red drugs 3 and green drugs 1 SG 5, prof 2.
Usually I run shields on high slots Enh kincat Complex range ext 3rd slot used for Bio / Tank / Damp according to what I need. Not always running a cloack, i use it more as a 2nd complex damp. REs, nanite injectors or hives. I have some tanked fit when i use CR instead of SG but I don't like armor tank in general, moreover on a scout. Armor tanking slows you down and has bad regen. Love the bonus of this suit, skilled in 1.6. In 1.7 I used this character more than my 1st because of the scannerina, tanks and the protobears. Nothing used to beat this suit in getting at the back of a proto-supertanked-tripledamagemodded-gallogi relying too much on his scanner. Now you can do this in more ways then before, and this is good. (even if I think scanners were nerfed a bit too much.. maybe increasing the angle could be nice?) Blowing tanks was (is) another good stuff I enjoy a lot (now i get a loooot of point doing that! Plasma cannon, flux nades and REs for the Blow!
On my 1st pg i just skilled adv C scout. My 1st suit is a cal logi, i still don't have put sp on "scout abilities"... getting them in 2-3 weeks. ATM I'm using the suit as a light assault
3 Complex shield exts 1 basic plate 1 armor repairer Adv RR or AR compact hive nanite injectors (I can run wiyrkomi if I use a GEK-38!!!)
OMG ... 50 hp/s regen... I said it all!! 250 hp less than C assault but I can completely regen my shields in 10-11 secs if completely empty. 1 basic plate doesn't slow me down too much, I can strafe a lot and i can flank in a moment. my radar is good even if I don't use modules and I have lower profile than an assault. And I can use 2 equipments. I'm ******* lovin it!!
thnx for all the fish!
Umma Kabula, Wolfgang Tee Funk, Il Gallo Cedrone. Sono uno e trino.
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keno trader
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:09:00 -
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Some great stuff so far! Want to start a discussion here: Are scout suits better at being assaults than assault suits? |
KING CHECKMATE
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
4984
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:14:00 -
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GÖª How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things. 28 MILLION total. 25 million invested in scout skills , suits and weapons. (weapons i've tested them all so..)
GÖª What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit). Flanker scout / Defensive scout = Gk.0
GÖª Your fit (if you want to share). (the proto version, i usually run ADV...) Gk.0 LOWS: GÖª Complex Kin Cat GÖª Complex Profile DAmpener GÖª 2x Complex Range amps
HIGHS (depend on who im fighting) GÖª 2 Cx Shield Extender OR GÖª 2 Cx Precision enhancers
Weapons: CR or ASCR SMG
Playstyle/roles/fits Drop uplink scout and after i die the first time i change to my ''Defensive fits'', i just ''camp'' around 2 or 3 objectives trying to avoid the enemy to get close to it/hack it, so my team can focus on taking enemy letters.
Like drones? = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=153604&find=unread
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2763
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:25:00 -
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Amarr scout = light assault. We all play like cloaked assaults :(
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
2219
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:27:00 -
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Focus on dampning. Have Gallente Scout at 5.
Mostly run shotty with REs.
You can't see me; my time is now. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
2763
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:29:00 -
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Joel II X wrote:Focus on dampning. Have Gallente Scout at 5.
Mostly run shotty with REs.
You can't see me; my time is now. Till I RKO you
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Umma Kabula
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy
15
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Posted - 2014.04.10 03:49:00 -
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keno trader wrote:Some great stuff so far! Want to start a discussion here: Are scout suits better at being assaults than assault suits?
Don't know.. maybe it depends more on your playstyle. As it is now the "only" advantages you have in skilling in assault are better ehp and gun bonuses (and i'm running caldari, so..) Running a "light assault" gives you better regen, speed, stamina, profile and a 2nd equipment. From what I've seen so far, my c scout is great at flanking enemies, not so good when you have to face someone 1vs1 if you don't have cover. 250 hp less is something you can feel pretty hard, you're not exactly a face-to-face soldier. But it's amazing if you have a good position and if you can get to cover just for a few seconds. And you will still have better scanner precision, range and profile. I think assault are still better in first line combat... light assaults don't have that ehp you need for that. But maybe just in that. Assault need some love, i think..
thnx for all the fish!
Umma Kabula, Wolfgang Tee Funk, Il Gallo Cedrone. Sono uno e trino.
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming Zero-Day
1120
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Posted - 2014.04.10 04:07:00 -
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Min Scout 25 mil SP Maxed all but precision (4) for all things scout related Prof 4 Knives
I can be the eyes of the team. A fully fitted eWar Min can have a precision lower than a Gal but higher than a Cal and have range at between the two if using Proto. Thats right, bottom of the leaderboard in the match but the squad is rarely surprised. Backed up with a roaming Cal scout not much can escape.
Alternatively I am the annoying git forcing you to go back again and again to hack the same point. Killing lone players trying to take it back and forcing a bigger push to reclaim. Once you do I slip away, cus my job is done. I've forced them to waste time and a greater portion of infantry to take back 1 point taken by 1 player.
... Or I just die an awful lot, but thats ok cus my cheap <10k isk suit has remotes and a slightly trollish Ion pistol for ***** and giggles
"...where Bylothgar the Ill-postured was made King of the People With No Name But Decent Footwear"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad.
4108
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Posted - 2014.04.10 05:03:00 -
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keno trader wrote:I guess what you should include are:
- How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things.
- What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit).
- Your fit (if you want to share).
- Playstyle/roles/fits
27 Million SP total. Vast majority into my Passive core skills, and around 10mil in weapons. I'm a Minmatar Scout (speccing into Cal scout for my corp on the side)
My fit: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/193/546
Infiltrator and Flanker. With an ACR, I can engage at up to 50m effectively, and use this with a cloak and dampening to effectively flank people. Knives are great for soloing objectives, as I can knife the defender and then hack in 4.67 seconds. Speed is a boon, especially when combined with my stamina regen.
Low on eHP, but anyone who has played Min Scout pre-1.8 will be able to make this work rather well.
I got my cloak and daggers, I'm a very happy Ghost
I hack at Mach V
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Pickle Sniffer
R 0 N 1 N
74
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Posted - 2014.04.10 09:50:00 -
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I've got about 12m sp invested in this scout - lev5 Gscout, lv 4 hack, lv4 precision, damps, and radius, knives at proficiency 4, pistols at proficiency 4 (so close to 5!), and most cores at 4 or 5.
Favorite fit for general play: Scout G-1 series, 2xmilitia kincat(I know, wasteful - just discovered the joy of speed) Adv precision enhancer Enhanced sidearm damage mod Adv range amplifier Flux grenades Basic cloak R-9 uplinks TT-Y breach scp in light slot CAR-9 burst scp in sidearm This suit is perfect for my playstyle, which I think of as mainly disruption and infiltration. I can leave uplinks in hard to reach or far flung places, ensuring my team will not be redlined or can force the enemy to fight on multiple fronts when they are holding a point. I can run through an equipment spammed objective packed with reds and drop two flux grenades without breaking stride, destroying valuable equipment and softening up opposition for my squadmates. If I find myself behind an enemy, a headshot with the breach usually gives me enough advantage to win against all but a tanked heavy, while the burst is good for peppering a group of enemies from behind( esp in ambush), causing distraction and disruption in the ranks. And with the mods I run, I have a full time passive scan that works like an active scanner!
My money maker: Scout G-1, 2xmilitia kincat Basic range amp Basic sidearm dmg mod Flux grenades Basic cloak Drop uplink Breach scp Scp
Costs11k. 'Nuff said
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
1488
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Posted - 2014.04.10 10:35:00 -
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Guess I could drop my own thoughts in here.
For brief info, I am just shy of having 25 million SP, and I've maxed nearly everything I want. My specialty are Gallente scouts with shotguns, submachine guns remote explosives and cloaks, which are at the core of every single fit I have aside a few exceptions for special cases. I am mostly a defensive/infiltration scout, hanging around or pushing towards objectives to hack them and make sure they won't get rehacked to the enemy team. I operate mostly independently of the squad I am working with, taking advantage of the environment to keep myself replenished with ammunition(supply depots, stray friendly nanohives etc.), and rely on my suit to keep myself at full health without being exposed(innate armor repair).
Most of the time I run with a standard Dragonfly scout suit for its cheap price that lets me have 25 million ISK, but this fit pretty much summarizes how I play.
With my fits I rely on good intel, being able to see everyone and react accordingly to various different threats from stray starter fit red dots to major enemy pushes and Madrugars driving around. I've also installed armor plates and shield extenders for a slightly bigger buffer zone when attacking or defending before having to retreat. The kincat negates the speed penalty armor plates provide, keeping me nice and mobile with slightly more health. I also use my remote explosives a lot to lay traps for particularly dangerous enemies, mostly proto logis, heavies with HMGs and large groups. Finally, my profile dampener helps me stay hidden and give me better chances for making successful ambushes(provided my skills actually apply), finishing my fit.
I also have a few other fits, for instance one for very fast hacking at the start of a match, another for AV, and one for countering Caldari scouts.
But in general, all my fits are about independence, mobility and adaptability to various different circumstances, with reliance on superior intel and stealth for ambushing and flanking maneuvers.
Also, you should definitely check out the Barbershop if you haven't, it's where all the scouts hang out to discuss scoutly stuff.
Welcome to the community. o7
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Apr. 1st
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DEZKA DIABLO
THE FOOTCLAN
607
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Posted - 2014.04.10 10:44:00 -
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I have44 million sp, all 4 proto scouts and all skills in upgrades maxed an now finishing my gun tree.
Since 1.8 I have had good luck and bad, my min scout doesn't have the pg to make the dream fit I was hoping for ( full shields, reds and a green complex, cloak, knives and a assault cr), so I settled for a real unorthodox fit that's fun lol.
Mk0 3complex myro Cr Nk Complex reactive Enh red Damp Cloak
Or I replace my punchers for shields an use 2 codes in the low.
My cal fit is a outside fit either bricked on both sides with a bk cr or usually a rr and mag. Although I have been messing with shields energizers and regulators for open maps and percision and range an a damp in cities but I live longer using a rifle on this scout.
My gal has so many options to list but it has become my new nk suit. Complex fero, two reds and a green, bk nk remotes cloak or two reds two damps a percision an a shield.
Still working on my amar I don't use it much as of late
My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
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Frost Kitty
Fatal Absolution
88
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:01:00 -
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23mil SP shotty scout. my fit: uhmm... actually on second thought i'm keeping that to myself. hope to see you guys on the field. ;3
Right Meow!
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
904
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:17:00 -
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Youknowutimsayin wrote:Shotgun scout... Dragonfly, STD Shotgun, Toxin SMG, Fluxes and REs
Does whatever I need it to do. Defending a point, attacking a point or just going on murder sprees. The new stuff in 1.8 is fun but not much has changed with my scout.
Loaded skill tree. I run Dragonfly because I want to.
I run a similar fit for most pubs, the only things I had to change with 1.8 was the new slots needed something to fit in...
On adv. I run Ewar scout:
2 complex precision enhancers 1 complex Range amplifier 1 Adv Dampener 1 basic plate/adv cardiac regulator
SG ASMG Flux Cloak (because its fun and new) RE's |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1839
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Posted - 2014.04.10 11:19:00 -
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SP Spent: I have no clue, but I have Profile Dampening, Range Amplification, Precision Enhancement, and Gallente Scouts at level 5. Things I don't use anymore are Cardiac Regs and KinCats which are at levels 3 and 4, and Code Breakers which are at 5.
Type of Scout: Primarily ADV Scout g/1 series.
-Complex Precision Enhancers x2 -Complex Profile Dampener -Complex Range Amplifier -Basic Armor Plate
-Assault Scrambler Pistols x2 -Flux Grenades
-Compact Nanohives x2
Playstyle/Role: Hack Stuff, Avoid Everyone, Kill Stragglers, Flank and Kill Easy Targets
-In addition, I run several fits with different equipment. I lay out uplinks, heal with rep tools and injectors, resupply with nanohives, and lay out traps with REs and Proxies.
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NAV HIV
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
1402
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Posted - 2014.04.10 12:53:00 -
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I specced into a scout that hunts other scouts. All core skills at level 5 so brick tanked scouts lol they die very quickly :) |
Appia Vibbia
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
2062
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Posted - 2014.04.10 13:37:00 -
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keno trader wrote:I guess what you should include are:
- How much SP have you spent on scout skills/ related things.
- What type scout you currently are playing as (and your suit).
- Your fit (if you want to share).
- Playstyle/roles/fits
I've spent 8.4 Million SP by getting Caldari, Gallente, and Minmatar Scout Operations all to level 5. 2.8 million SP to get the 3 passive scanning skills to level 5 and another 2.4 Million SP to get Cardiac Regulation and Kinetic Catalyzation to level 5 All other SP allocation benefits other suits I have and is not strictly for Scouts.
I play the bricked tank Gallente with cloak and shotgun (gk.0) I play the EWAR passive scan Gallente with Shotgun and Cloak (gk.0) I play a mixed EWAR/Tank with a Dragonfly Scout (G-I)
I play a roaming Sniper with a Caldari Scout, Sniper Rifle, and Cloak (ck.0) I play the EWAR support Caldari with Mass Driver, Wiyrkomi and Ishukone Gauged Nanohives (ck.0) I play Stealth EWAR Caldari with Combat Rifle and claok (ck.0) I play a brick tanked Caldari Scout with Combat Rifle (ck.0) I play a mixed support/tank Scout (C-I)
I play a Speed Hack Minmatar Scout (mk.0) I play a Sprint/Uplink scout with 3 complex kincats. the LP uplink and Flux uplink (mk.0) I play a Nova Knife+ Pistol sidearm Scout (mk.0) I play a balanced build of sprint speed, damage, and stealth knfier (M-I)
I have about 8 Gallente Scout fittings, 5 Caldari Scout fittings, and 5 Minmatar Scout fittings on this character, plus the fittings for my other suits. There are certain things that each suit excels at and some that they do marginally better at. With certain play styles being more apt for certain situations. I choose my suit on how I want to play or if not doing well, I pick out the best one for the situation at hand.
C-I scout with Laser Rifle is probably one of my favorites right now. Cardiac Regulator in the low, 3 shield mods in the high. nanohive and RE for EQ. I don't run ADV suits. I run STD or Proto. ADV just seem like an ISK sink. Not enough power or versatility as proto, but not cheap enough to die multiple times.
But damn, do I miss my Amarr Assault.
Appia Vibbia for CPM1
AppiaVibbia(at)gmail(dot)com
AKA Nappia, AKA Mathppia
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Yan Darn
Science For Death
565
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Posted - 2014.04.10 18:09:00 -
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21mil+ SP
I've only ever been a Gal scout so that is what I've focused my SP around.
I've maxed the fittings menu, I run my Valor 90% of the time, occasionally upgrade to ADV when squaded to try and keep up with the rest of the squad and only use proto for special occasions (like when against Science for Life ).
My most used 2 fits are:
ADV Quantum and Flux Links Fluxes K5 Shotgun Toxin SMG Comp shield extender Comp range amp ADV cardio Reg CPU Mod
- will have proto links soon so will change to PRO stable/Other Pro links and the range amp to PG Mod. - Usually used at start of battle, to cover home point and central points.
Then:
REs and ADV cloak Fluxes K5 shotgun ADV SMG Complex shield or Complex Precision Enchancer (enemy dependant) Complex Range Amp Basic plates or complex damp (enemy dependant) CPU mod
- basically a direct upgrade to my pre 1.8 fit, except that I wouldn't have used the precision enhancer before, and before 1.8 a basic damp was all that was ever necessary. - for flanking, capping objectives, solo guarding objectives and tank busting - all the usual stuff basically. I tend to go where the Team (even if squaded) needs me. I firmly believe giving the blues around the map a hand by hacking a CRU, destroying uplinks or murdering the heavy+logi holding down a point benefits my squad in the long run. I'm like a violent Mary Poppins.
I have some fits with CR for games where it's obvious Im never gonna get into shotgun range (and actually survive afterwards) and even STD swarm fit for harassing and helping to kill Vehicles (it's funny seeing just 'swarm launcher' in the kill feed..). I've got ScP/SMG fits for anti scout work.
My next goal is a fit with the proto proxy scanner, proto cloak and full ewar mods...I'm looking for support role fits optimised for squad play.
The Ghost of Bravo
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keno trader
FACTION WARFARE ARMY FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
9
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:24:00 -
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Damn it's really nice to see other scouts. :) |
arimal lavaren
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
338
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Posted - 2014.04.10 19:34:00 -
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This is a cool thread.
I've got 4 mil sp on an alt I trained up when the Minnie scout was first released I only recently actually picked up knives to give them a shot.(in short I'm awful with them but having fun) I've been trying to get the charge shot with the knives and then follow up with bonus melee damage with varing degrees of success. Mostly using a craptastic fit like this http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/799/3513, and just trying not to be seen.
On my Logi main on the other hand I have this little beautiful fit, that is way more fun and way more effective than it has any right to be, while having zero sp in the role.
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/799/3508 |
Knight Solitaire
652
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:11:00 -
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SP = 30mil, 15mil SP spent on Scout related stuff, 10mil on Weaponry, 5mil on vehicles.
My favourite playstyle right now has to be a 'Hyper mode' Scout.
Scout mk.0 - Hyper Mode
1x Complex SE 1x Enhanced SE 1x Complex Precision Enh.
Shotgun
Cloak (Use for dodging Scans, very rarely used for being a '**** mode' Scout) Remote Explosives
3x Complex Kin Catz
Thats what I'm using in Pubs, but I'm loving how it performs, and it performs better than my 'Serious' fits, if you know a map you can be an nuisance to the opposition and a pain in the ass to slow moving targets like Heavies. The speed makes it harder for other Shotguns and weapons like the Scrambler, Burst HMG and Sniper to track you, sort of like Kiting in EVE.
The only con I've found with this fit, is that if you **** up, you're dead, one wrong move, and you're instakilled, the best thing about this fit is the ability to quickly pull out of an engagement if it isn't going your way, so that you can regen and come in quickly in another direction (For example, trying to fight Heavies)
In PC I usually go for Speed Hacks though, and am almost always placed in the city. But when I'm not needed for hacking I use this fit.
Woof! Woof!
-Some dog on the street
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Aria Gomes
R 0 N 1 N
379
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Posted - 2014.04.10 20:47:00 -
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M/1 Scout[One of my main fits]
M209 Assault Submachine Gun Ishukone Nova Knives
Locus Grenades
Cloak Field Remote Explosives
Complex Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Advanced Precision Enhancer
Enhanced Range Amplifier Enhanced Cardiac Regulator
M/1 Scout [My 2nd main fit]
CAR-9 Burst Scrambler Pistol Ishukone Nova Knives
Locus Grenade
Remote Explosive
Complex Shield Extender Enhanced Shield Extender Advanced Precision Enhancer
Advanced Range Amplifier Enhanced Cardiac Regulator
I don't really have a playstyle. I guess I'm pretty much objective driven. I'm not really a killing machine so I prefer to stick to objectives to get my kills and the people that are away from packs. Sometimes I do get a little antsy and go into groups but from an angle not really straight on. |
Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
1632
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:04:00 -
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Hello fellow scouts, o7!
~34M SP; started beginning of open beta. Scout since day 1.
~4M SP suits (L4 Cal L5 Gal) ~8M SP weapons (AR, SMG, ScP, Grenades, Remotes, Fitting skills)
-Rest in core skills, all to L5 (except cloak L3)
Cal fits revolve around recon or close in chaos. 2*PE, 1*SE, range or damp in low.
Gal fits revolve around recon, infiltration, hunting/killing and uplink deploy. usually PE in the high, damps/kin-cat/range in the low.
No real tank fits, aside from 1 SE on the Caldari, 1 adv ferro on some of the Gal.
I only do sidearms (ScP primary, SMG 'backup) and 95% of the time I'm in standard suits. I fight close-in for the most part. Maybe 1 ADV suit every few matches.... I've got so much ISK, dudes.
Double posting like a Kaiser.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
382
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Posted - 2014.04.10 21:35:00 -
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Yan Darn wrote:21mil+ SP I've only ever been a Gal scout so that is what I've focused my SP around. I've maxed the fittings menu, I run my Valor 90% of the time, occasionally upgrade to ADV when squaded to try and keep up with the rest of the squad and only use proto for special occasions (like when against Science for Life ). My most used 2 fits are: ADV Quantum and Flux Links Fluxes K5 Shotgun Toxin SMG Comp shield extender Comp range amp ADV cardio Reg CPU Mod - will have proto links soon so will change to PRO stable/Other Pro links and the range amp to PG Mod. - Usually used at start of battle, to cover home point and central points. Then: REs and ADV cloak Fluxes K5 shotgun ADV SMG Complex shield or Complex Precision Enchancer (enemy dependant) Complex Range Amp Basic plates or complex damp (enemy dependant) CPU mod - basically a direct upgrade to my pre 1.8 fit, except that I wouldn't have used the precision enhancer before, and before 1.8 a basic damp was all that was ever necessary. - for flanking, capping objectives, solo guarding objectives and tank busting - all the usual stuff basically. I tend to go where the Team (even if squaded) needs me. I firmly believe giving the blues around the map a hand by hacking a CRU, destroying uplinks or murdering the heavy+logi holding down a point benefits my squad in the long run. I'm like a violent Mary Poppins. I have some fits with CR for games where it's obvious Im never gonna get into shotgun range (and actually survive afterwards) and even STD swarm fit for harassing and helping to kill Vehicles (it's funny seeing just 'swarm launcher' in the kill feed..). I've got ScP/SMG fits for anti scout work. My next goal is a fit with the proto proxy scanner, proto cloak and full ewar mods...I'm looking for support role fits optimised for squad play. plan on doing the same with proto scanner
I was leaning more towards the one that lights em up for 20 seconds at 20db good for finding uncloaked double dampened scouts that are not gallente
I looked at the proxy scanner and its nice with it's 10 sec visual and 10 sec cooldown but I believe it only hits 28db
Bacon pancakes makin' bacon pancakes
Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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DEZKA DIABLO
THE FOOTCLAN
608
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Posted - 2014.04.11 04:52:00 -
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Frost Kitty wrote:23mil SP Shotty Scout. My Fit:
Scout Gk.0 2 Complex Shield Extenders 2 Basic Armor Plates 2 Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Kaalakiota Magsec SMG Flux Grenade ARN-18 Cloak Field
Hopefully when I max out my PG & CPU skills I'll be able to add a second Equipment. :3
Forgot to mention... It's about 178k a pop so run at your own risk lolz. Oh no it makes posts now.
My remotes got NERFED cuz you whine like a B!+Gé¼[-]!
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Frost Kitty
Fatal Absolution
93
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Posted - 2014.04.11 05:52:00 -
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DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Frost Kitty wrote:23mil SP Shotty Scout. My Fit:
Scout Gk.0 2 Complex Shield Extenders 2 Basic Armor Plates 2 Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Kaalakiota Magsec SMG Flux Grenade ARN-18 Cloak Field
Hopefully when I max out my PG & CPU skills I'll be able to add a second Equipment. :3
Forgot to mention... It's about 178k a pop so run at your own risk lolz. Oh no it makes posts now. Aww is someone butthurt because I wrecked them?? ;3
Right Meow!
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
940
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Posted - 2014.04.11 06:02:00 -
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Frost Kitty wrote:DEZKA DIABLO wrote:Frost Kitty wrote:23mil SP Shotty Scout. My Fit:
Scout Gk.0 2 Complex Shield Extenders 2 Basic Armor Plates 2 Complex Kinetic Catalyzers Duvolle Specialist Shotgun Kaalakiota Magsec SMG Flux Grenade ARN-18 Cloak Field
Hopefully when I max out my PG & CPU skills I'll be able to add a second Equipment. :3
Forgot to mention... It's about 178k a pop so run at your own risk lolz. Oh no it makes posts now. Aww is someone butthurt because I wrecked them?? ;3 Scout ck.0 3 extenders 1 complex enhancer 1 comeplex profile damp 1 enhanced range amp Exo mass driver Magsec smg Adv cloak field Nanohive
Much fun, very much, wow.
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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