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        |  Awry Barux
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2014.04.09 04:57:00 -
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 Are literally the only thing keeping HMG heavy spam in check.
 
 That is all.
 
 Nerdier than thou | 
      
      
        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
 3823
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:00:00 -
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 That's odd, because they're my HMG's favourite meal.
 
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        |  JARREL THOMAS
 Dead Man's Game
 
 253
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:01:00 -
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 -_-
 
 That is all.
 
 Caldari Loyalist I speak for the rabbits | 
      
      
        |  Awry Barux
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 1730
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:01:00 -
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 Chunky Munkey wrote:That's odd, because they're my HMG's favourite meal. They're each others' natural predators.
 
 Nerdier than thou | 
      
      
        |  Sgt Kirk
 Fatal Absolution
 Dirt Nap Squad.
 
 5581
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:02:00 -
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 That is all
 
 1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance | 
      
      
        |  MythTanker
 GunFall Mobilization
 
 11
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:19:00 -
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 Awry Barux wrote:Are literally the only thing keeping HMG heavy spam in check. 
 That is all.
 dude wtf are you smoking? (can you give me some) Its totally the other way around.
 
 Heavies are OP? Say that to the buisness end of my HMG you peasent. | 
      
      
        |  Aythadis Smith
 G I A N T
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 193
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:32:00 -
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 Ive seen both now each other down.
 
 Nothing new to see here. Move along.
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        |  Awry Barux
 Ametat Security
 Amarr Empire
 
 1731
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 05:58:00 -
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 MythTanker wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Are literally the only thing keeping HMG heavy spam in check. 
 That is all.
 dude wtf are you smoking? (can you give me some) Its totally the other way around. I disagree. Nothing beats a Gk.0 Boundless heavy from the front within 30m (AKA anywhere near objectives or in a city), so the only option is to come from behind. What does that best? Scouts. Even when you come from behind, though, you have to be able survive the bullet hose long enough to get 3-4 shotgun rounds off- that necessitates tanking said scout. There's no other even somewhat-consistent effective answer that enemy. No hard counter. The only option is getting the drop on them from behind with a high-alpha, high DPS weapon, or having your own HMG and better gun game (which just contributes to HMG spam).
 
 In contrast, tanked shotgun scouts can be one-volleyed from 70m with a scrambler rifle, picked to bits by a rail rifle, snuck up on and shotgunned by an EWAR scout, caught with a mass driver, or easily shredded by a smart HMGer. Any tanked scout's stealth advantage can be negated by GK.0 proto scans or an enemy Cal scout. There are plenty of options for dealing with them, with some (like the EWAR shotgun scout) being hard counters.
 
 Nerdier than thou | 
      
      
        |  C Saunders
 Tech Guard
 RISE of LEGION
 
 797
 
 
      | Posted - 2014.04.09 06:43:00 -
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 Awry Barux wrote:MythTanker wrote:Awry Barux wrote:Are literally the only thing keeping HMG heavy spam in check. 
 That is all.
 dude wtf are you smoking? (can you give me some) Its totally the other way around. I disagree. Nothing beats a Gk.0 Boundless heavy from the front within 30m (AKA anywhere near objectives or in a city), so the only option is to come from behind. What does that best? Scouts. Even when you come from behind, though, you have to be able survive the bullet hose long enough to get 3-4 shotgun rounds off- that necessitates tanking said scout. There's no other even somewhat-consistent effective answer that enemy. No hard counter. The only option is getting the drop on them from behind with a high-alpha, high DPS weapon, or having your own HMG and better gun game (which just contributes to HMG spam).  In contrast, tanked shotgun scouts can be one-volleyed from 70m with a scrambler rifle, picked to bits by a rail rifle, snuck up on and shotgunned by an EWAR scout, caught with a mass driver, or easily shredded by a smart HMGer. Any tanked scout's stealth advantage can be negated by GK.0 proto scans or an enemy Cal scout. There are plenty of options for dealing with them, with some (like the EWAR shotgun scout) being hard counters. 
 
 Or use Nova Knives, a lot faster and cleaner than a shotgun. :)
 
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