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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:54:00 -
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How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution?
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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Awry Barux
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1730
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:55:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution?
Infinite. Nuclear arsenal wouldn't even break shields, assuming our vehicle weapons are actually putting out 80GJ. A rail tank could destroy New York with a single round.
Nerdier than thou
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1pawn dust
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
123
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:55:00 -
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Depends on the color of the pilots skin, those NYPD guys play favorites!
No seriously though, a lone HAV with no support would fare no better or worst than any current modern battle tank imo. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
5576
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:57:00 -
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A Single Caldari Rail Rifle could actually take down the entire Mexican Army.
1st Official Role Playing Gallente Asshole -Title Awarded by True Adamance
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3821
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:57:00 -
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It'd take a Vauxhall Nova with a bonet full of explosives.
No.
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1pawn dust
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2014.04.09 02:59:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:A Single Caldari Rail Rifle could actually take down the entire Mexican Army.
Maybe but it would take every immortal clone soldier and every starship in the EvE universe to take on Mexicos narcos, and the narcos would still clone us out with no losses. |
Asha Starwind
DUST University
Ivy League
757
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:07:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution? Infinite. Nuclear arsenal wouldn't even break shields, assuming our vehicle weapons are actually putting out 80GJ. A rail tank could destroy New York with a single round.
Here's a fun fact: Six gigajoules is about the amount of chemical energy in a barrel of oil that is released when combusted.
Detonating 14 barrels of oil would not level New York.
Mad Bomber - 50% less profile
Return dumbfire to Swarms
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Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:09:00 -
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One skinny felly with C4 runs behind it and takes it out. Game over Dx
G.L.O.R.Y solider,
Master of the Gallente Heavy
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Lynn Beck
Wake N' Bake Inc
Top Men.
1051
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:29:00 -
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Firstly the shielding is strong enough to take missiles and still be up, so you would need a nuke to drop shields.
Secondly the armor repair is almost like having infinite armor but over time. Cue 2nd nuke to clear armor.
Sometimes ya just feel like surfin
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1pawn dust
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
124
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:35:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Firstly the shielding is strong enough to take missiles and still be up, so you would need a nuke to drop shields.
Secondly the armor repair is almost like having infinite armor but over time. Cue 2nd nuke to clear armor.
Huh? A DS crashing into your tank will wipe out the shields, Al Quieda would kill a maddy in 5 seconds. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3436
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Posted - 2014.04.09 03:44:00 -
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Well, if we're talking about a blaster Madrugar it might have issues tbh.
I mean yea, you wouldn't really be able to crack its shields, but at the same time its liable to run out of ammo fairly quick.
As you've given it no backup or way of re-stocking, I imagine it would eventually run out of ammunition and be boxed in by other vehicles. If the resisting force was clever they would eventually find a way to flip the thing, or destroy enough of the ground beneath it that it could no longer move. At this point the driver would starve to death slowly over a two week period or so, depending on his weight. |
MarasdF Loron
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
355
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:02:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution?
I dunno, but at least the civilians will be safe as it cannot destroy any structures. Just stay indoors or behind lamp posts etc and you'll be perfecly safe.
R.I.P. Pre-1.7 Vehicles & AV, you will be missed.
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COVERT SUBTERFUGE
PSU GHOST SYNDICATE
DARKSTAR ARMY
882
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:04:00 -
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One was sited in Shanghai but nothing came of it.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
9362
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:08:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution?
Hmmmmm its fire power would be unmatched it probably would decimate modern tanks with two of three shells.... and infantry wouldn't stand a chance to even one...... best the military could hope to do with its primitive, by comparision, weaponry is try to catch a Maddy in a Naval bombardments during its hardener down times.
"Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!"
-Dagger Two
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Banjo Robertson
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
135
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:18:00 -
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I guess it depends on whether the shielding and armor used is effective against the types of weapons we can use, sure it might be optimized against its contemporary weapons that might be used against it, but it might not be optimized against the types of weapons we can use. I'd say one battleship with some cruise missiles could probably take it down.
Heck, even some C4 strapped on could probably take it down. |
Harpyja
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1551
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Posted - 2014.04.09 04:22:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:A Single Caldari Rail Rifle could actually take down the entire Mexican Army.
A plasma rifle will be able to melt right through modern day armor.
Seriously, if it wasn't for our dropsuits to protect our clones, all of the weapons on the battlefield will vaporize our flesh 
"By His light, and His will"
- The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Atiim didn't agree with limiting tanks!
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Dagger-Two
Tharumec
Villore Accords
271
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:08:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution? Infinite. Nuclear arsenal wouldn't even break shields, assuming our vehicle weapons are actually putting out 80GJ. A rail tank could destroy New York with a single round.
I don't think you know what a Gigajoule is.
Giventhat a well placed group of remote explosives do the trick, it's safe to assume that a well coordinated effort from a group of modern day tanks could kill it, though they would have near-zero chance of surviving a hit from a rail turret, or a blaster turret if it's in range.
I would put my money on an A-10 scrapping a Madrugar if got it's Gau-8, Hydra 70's, and a salvo of Mavericks on target
Playing since 1st batch of closed beta keys.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
5581
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Posted - 2014.04.09 05:10:00 -
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Wait, First of all how did an RDV deploy a tank into New York without crashing into a building?
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Beld Errmon
1580
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:00:00 -
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1pawn dust wrote:Depends on the color of the pilots skin, those NYPD guys play favorites!
oh dear I feel bad for laughing.
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:02:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Wait, First of all how did an RDV deploy a tank into New York without crashing into a building?
Because it was gallente and not Caldari :p
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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Beld Errmon
1580
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:03:00 -
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Just throw a bunch of national guards at it, it will run out of ammo and theres no supply depots in new york, as someone has already pointed out an RDV would never survive trying to bring a new tank in if the pilot recalls :D
Rise and rise again until lambs become lions.
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
900
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Posted - 2014.04.09 06:03:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Firstly the shielding is strong enough to take missiles and still be up, so you would need a nuke to drop shields.
Secondly the armor repair is almost like having infinite armor but over time. Cue 2nd nuke to clear armor.
Armor hardener
Closed beta vet
Tears, sweet delicious tears
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The Headless Horseman
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
169
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Posted - 2014.04.09 14:32:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Wait, First of all how did an RDV deploy a tank into New York without crashing into a building?
It did'nt! The tank was in dust and fell through a worm hole. Duh? LOL
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NAV HIV
The Generals
General Tso's Alliance
1392
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Posted - 2014.04.09 14:53:00 -
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Not sure what would happen in Newyork... But some other parts of the World It would definitely receive the JLAV lol |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
League of Infamy
2440
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Posted - 2014.04.09 14:57:00 -
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Dig a ditch it will never get out.
For the Federation!
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Marc Rime
371
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:12:00 -
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Awry Barux wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution? Infinite. Nuclear arsenal wouldn't even break shields, assuming our vehicle weapons are actually putting out 80GJ. A rail tank could destroy New York with a single round.
Hardly - 80GJ is barely 20 tons. Even the WW2 nukes were three orders of magnitude more powerful.
...which isn't to say that 20 tons of TNT is to be sneezed at ;). |
Spike Slania
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:18:00 -
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The Headless Horseman wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Wait, First of all how did an RDV deploy a tank into New York without crashing into a building? It did'nt! The tank was in dust and fell through a worm hole. Duh? LOL
Then how the hell did it survive entry into earth orbit and land fall? When a drunk rdv pilot decides it can't descend any farther and just drops my tank too high just blowing up 300k without even get a chance to make any money off of it.
I'm not too far from you, I can't wait to see you, again and again
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
2636
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:24:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Wait, First of all how did an RDV deploy a tank into New York without crashing into a building?
+1, best laugh of the day. The Bolas would probably do more damage to the city than the HAV!
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Forum Warrior lv.2
Amarr victor!
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8195
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:37:00 -
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I will just send a cat.
That's all it takes to destroy a madrugar.
A cat.
My intentions is to have a fun game for everyone.
If I seem to be biased, I have good hard data to back it up.
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Shadowswipe
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
213
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:37:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:A Single Caldari Rail Rifle could actually take down the entire Mexican Army. A plasma rifle will be able to melt right through modern day armor. Seriously, if it wasn't for our dropsuits to protect our clones, all of the weapons on the battlefield will vaporize our flesh
Not saying much. 3 pounds of pressure will break our skin. |
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Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
202
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:42:00 -
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Asha Starwind wrote:Awry Barux wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:How much pounding would it take before being, error, wiped off? Entire Army brigade? Entire marine force? Entire military institution? Infinite. Nuclear arsenal wouldn't even break shields, assuming our vehicle weapons are actually putting out 80GJ. A rail tank could destroy New York with a single round. Here's a fun fact: Six gigajoules is about the amount of chemical energy in a barrel of oil that is released when combusted. Detonating 14 barrels of oil would not level New York. Fun Fact #2: Average yield of a nuclear warhead 4,000 TJ(or 4PJ). Largest ever detonated: 84,000TJ. Largest non-nuclear yield: 240000TJ. Fun Fact #3: Yield of bomb dropped on Hiroshima 40TJ. Just sayin.
Fun Fact 3 correction: Little Boy (Hiroshima) was 63TJ (Tetrajoules) Fat Man ( Nagasaki) 84TJ
So how we read this:
one gram of TNT = 4200 J or 42KJ
Winchester elephant gun is 7000 Joules of kinetic energy or 7KJ
if your rail cannon is creating 80 GJ and a bomb from the 1940s is creatine 60-80TJ then i think your tank would not last the night.
for those of you who think we wouldnt drop nuclear weapons thats fine. we have plenty in our arsenal that we could spam at the tank until it blew up.
MOAB = 5.05 GJ |
Joseph Ridgeson
WarRavens
League of Infamy
1096
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:48:00 -
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Well, let's see.
A Madrugar, without hardener, is generally killed in about 4 or 5 shots from an 80'gj' railgun. Assuming gj is gigajoules (it is New Eden; they suffered a Dark Age so the unit joules might not even exist) AND the round itself has 80 gigajoules rather than that being the energy required to shoot it (we honestly don't know; the round itself could be 1 gigajoule for all we know) you are talking about 300 gigajoules of energy. Mr. Wikipedia says "1 ton TNT = 4.184 GJ"
300 / 4.184 = 71 tons of TNT to destroy.
This is obviously incorrect as 4 or 5 man-portable satchel charges will turn a Madrugar into wreckage. Going off of these numbers, I would argue that a 'precision' airstrike would work.
"People that quote themselves in signatures confuse me." -Joseph Ridgeson
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Nelo Angel0
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
203
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:54:00 -
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let's make this more interesting let's make it a sagaris rolling through new york  |
Enji Elric
Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc.
Interstellar Murder of Crows
202
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Posted - 2014.04.09 15:56:00 -
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how about ADS with proto missiles and ammo expansions
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star.
EoN.
1990
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Posted - 2014.04.09 16:24:00 -
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1pawn dust wrote:Depends on the color of the pilots skin, those NYPD guys play favorites!
No seriously though, a lone HAV with no support would fare no better or worst than any current modern battle tank imo.
Wow, you must think the Abrams or Challenger are on par with technology 20,000 years into the future. It would be like Godzilla vs the US military. A Madrugar would probably be heavy enough to crack whatever it rolls on. Nevermind nanomachine technology to constantly repair itself.
I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
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Lv2spd2
Slow And Old
276
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Posted - 2014.04.09 17:00:00 -
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Enji Elric wrote:MOAB = 50.0 GJ 50,000,000,000 joules
That MOAB is not reallly a good choice for attacking tanks... being a fuel/air explosive those 50GJ are spread over a pretty large area. Some sort of shaped charge is probably a better choice.
Maybe if you caught it in an enclosed area the MOAB would work. |
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